Why does Israel reign over the nations?

[Shilohsfoal]

3 hours ago, Diaste said:

"And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—the name of the beast or the number of its name"

Because the word 'pas' is used it indicates each individual part of the whole. There are rich and poor, free and bond, small and great everywhere across the world. This isn't limited to a region. If this isn't neither is Rev 20.

Sorry

I'm sorry to inform you that you will not reign over the nations in the Lord's land. That is Israel that shall reign in the Lord's land as the prophet had stated. 

See link below. 

https://biblehub.com/isaiah/14-2.htm

Edited May 22, 2022 by Shilohsfoal

[Shilohsfoal]

1 hour ago, Selah7 said:

I believe this scripture is referring to the elect saints and the two witnesses.  What say you?  Thanks, Shiloh.

It is referring to the elect saints that are persecuted. The two witnesses are not persecuted, they persecute others. 

They torment and kill people. They probably kill quite a few saints while they are at it. 

https://biblehub.com/luke/12-45.htm

https://biblehub.com/luke/12-46.htm

[Shilohsfoal]

1 hour ago, Selah7 said:

I believe this scripture is referring to the elect saints and the two witnesses.  What say you?  Thanks, Shiloh.

It is referring to the elect saints that are persecuted. The two witnesses are not persecuted, they persecute others. 

They torment and kill people. They probably kill quite a few saints while they are at it. 

https://biblehub.com/luke/12-45.htm

https://biblehub.com/luke/12-46.htm

[Selah7]

8 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The two witnesses are not persecuted, they persecute others. 

But the two witnesses are killed by Satan…but they are revived after 3.5 days. 

And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
 

And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

- Revelation 11:7-8,11-12 (KJV)

[Shilohsfoal]

1 hour ago, Selah7 said:

But the two witnesses are killed by Satan…but they are revived after 3.5 days. 

And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
 

And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

- Revelation 11:7-8,11-12 (KJV)

They are not killed by Satan. They are killed by the beast that attacks the harlot. 

The two witnesses are removed from Christ's kingdom on earth just before Christ recieves it. Everyone who offends and does evil in his kingdom is removed.

https://biblehub.com/revelation/11-15.htm

The cloud the two witnesses ascend into the heavens will look much like this cloud caused by the abomination of desolation. They are cast into a fire. 

https://biblehub.com/matthew/13-41.htm

The Son of man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 

https://biblehub.com/matthew/13-42.htm

They will throw them into a blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 

 

Just because they are resurrected, does not make them good. There are some who are resurrected who suffer eternal shame and contempt. 

https://biblehub.com/daniel/12-2.htm

Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake, some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. 

 

You need to look at thier works and then tell me if they did thier masters will. 

https://biblehub.com/luke/6-31.htm

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. 

Edited May 22, 2022 by Shilohsfoal

[Diaste]

20 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Sorry

I'm sorry to inform you that you will not reign over the nations in the Lord's land. That is Israel that shall reign in the Lord's land as the prophet had stated. 

See link below. 

https://biblehub.com/isaiah/14-2.htm

I guess the depends in no small part on the identity of Israel and which Israel.

[Shilohsfoal]

2 hours ago, Diaste said:

I guess the depends in no small part on the identity of Israel and which Israel.

https://biblehub.com/isaiah/14-2.htm

According to Isaiah, The one who HAS GONE BACK TO HIS OWN PLACE. 

Not the nations, Israel shall rule over the nations. 

Edited May 23, 2022 by Shilohsfoal

[truth7t7]

On 5/22/2022 at 5:34 AM, Shilohsfoal said:

It is referring to the elect saints that are persecuted. The two witnesses are not persecuted, they persecute others. 

They torment and kill people. They probably kill quite a few saints while they are at it. 

https://biblehub.com/luke/12-45.htm

https://biblehub.com/luke/12-46.htm

The Two Witnesses represent God Almighty, they aren't killing saints as you claim

The Two Witnesses Will Dominate The Entire Tribulation, Something Many Disregard As Non-Existent

Try Reading Exodus And The Plagues Upon Pharaoh And Egypt, It's Going To Be A Complete Replay

God's Divine Protection, "Open Your Ears"

(Revelation) 13:9-10KJV

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

God's Divine Protection During The Final Hour Of Earth's Temptation, Just Like The Passover In Egypt, "Open Your Ears"

Isaiah 26:20-21KJV

20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.

21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

The Great Trib Will Be Upon The Antichrist And Wicked, The Church Is Protected, Dont Be Deceived

There's Going To Be An End Times Persecution, The Beast And His Kingdom Are The Target Of God's Empowered (Two Witnesses)

The Great Tribulation Will Come Upon The Wicked World, While The (Sealed Church) Is Protected

The (Sealed Church) will be present on earth and protected, when wicked men are tormented 5 months, desiring to die as death flees

All saved believers are (Sealed) by God, Eph 1:13, 4:30

Ephesians 1:13KJV

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:30KJV

30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

It Was Commanded, Only Those Without God's Seal Will Be Tormented, The Sealed Church Is Protected

Revelation 9:3-6KJV

3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

Plagues upon The Beast and his Kingdom, a remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt

Revelation 11:3-6

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Revelation 16:1-11KJV

1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.

2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.

5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.

6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.

8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.

9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,

11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

Edited November 19, 2022 by truth7t7

[Mr. M]

On 5/20/2022 at 9:42 AM, Shilohsfoal said:

Why does Israel rule over the nations in the Lord's land? 

https://biblehub.com/isaiah/14-2.htm

 

Hint

Answer can be found in Revelation!!! 

To prove to the nations that God's Law is the only path to global peace and prosperity.

Isaiah 2:

2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established

in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house

of the God of Jacob; and He will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion

shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

4 And He shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords

into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation,

neither shall they learn war any more.

[Mr. M]

On 5/20/2022 at 6:27 PM, Shilohsfoal said:

It would be the boundaries promised to Abrahams and his seed. 

https://biblehub.com/galatians/3-16.htm

The boundaries of Israel are not particularly relevant, as the Millennial reign of Christ is more than a kingdom, it is a dominion. Even as Solomon extended his authority beyond the national boundaries of Israel, thus securing the borders of the land.

1 Kings 4:

24 For he had dominion over all the region on this side of the River from Tiphsah even to Gaza, namely over all the kings on this side of the River; and he had peace on every side all around him. 

25 And Judah and Israel dwelt safely, each man under his vine and his fig tree, from Dan as far as Beersheba, all the days of Solomon.

1 Kings 9:19 all the storage cities that Solomon had, cities for his chariots and cities for his cavalry, and whatever Solomon desired to build in Jerusalem, in Lebanon, and in all the land of his dominion.

King Solomon saw His day, and rejoiced in it.

Psalm 72:

7 In his days shall the righteous flourish; and abundance of peace so long as the moon endures.

8 He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth.

9 They that dwell in the wilderness shall bow before him; and his enemies shall lick the dust.

10 The kings of Tarshish and of the isles shall bring presents: the kings of Sheba and Seba shall offer gifts.

11 Yea, all kings shall fall down before him: all nations shall serve him.

All the Israel of God will reign over every nation.

To make known His power and glory

Psalm 145:

10 All thy works shall praise thee, O Lord; and thy saints shall bless thee.

11 They shall speak of the glory of thy kingdom, and talk of thy power;

12 To make known to the sons of men his mighty acts, and the glorious majesty of his kingdom.

13 Thy kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and thy dominion endures throughout all generations.

Psalm 103:22 Bless the Lord, all His works,
In all places of His dominion.

Bless the Lord, O my soul!