Fauci to step down

[Marathoner]

3 hours ago, ayin jade said:

Doctors and nurses routinely are required to have vaccinations for flu, mmr, tetanus etc. Nothing new there. 

The labor shortage isnt because of "mandatory" vaccinations. People earned more staying home rather than working and now do not want to get back to work. That has been repeatedly emphasized in economic articles.

On a personal level, there is a shortage of pharmacy staff because of burnout, not because of "mandatory" vaccinations. All the ones who have quick at my husband's pharmacies have done so because they are tired of the nastiness they are facing on a daily basis from people. Threats, abuse, things thrown at them. Why would people be motivated to work in a pharmacy any more? Hence, you have shortages. 

Well said. My youngest sister works in a pharmacy, and she reports the most atrocious behavior from customers: threats, assault, theft, and bizarre misconduct. The sort of things I hear and see here in this part of Albuquerque are widespread. So is falsehood. It's like a disease. 

On the subject of vaccination, these have been mandated by public schools, the medical profession, and the U.S. armed forces for over 60 years. What happened whenever my father received orders for yet another tour in Southeast Asia? We loaded into the car and reported to the clinic to receive our shots before my father deployed overseas. 

This only became an issue with the advent of COVID-19. Prior to COVID, the Jehovah's Witnesses and certain evangelical circles denounced vaccination (and medical treatment) as the wicked tools of Satan. It's truly fascinating how those who championed conspiratorial thinking were also responsible for one false prediction of the apocalypse after another (I appreciate what Slibhin shared earlier in the topic).

After COVID arrived on the scene, this kooky drivel went mainstream. I've been keeping an eye trained on discourse here and elsewhere, and I've noticed conduits for some of the nonsense which surfaces on this forum. This is a common pathway: from the Dark Web to reddit, Truth Social, Gab, et al; from peddlers of conspiracies (who also make a ton of money from selling snake-oil cures, prepper food, and the like); all into the itching ears of conspiracy-mongers who see nefarious schemes around every corner, and under every rock. 

Vile conduct follows in their wake. 

Edited August 23, 2022 by Marathoner

[Sower]

2 hours ago, Marathoner said:

Do you know what trepanation and craniotomy are, Sower? 

Trepanation;  surgical procedure to create an opening or drill holes in the skull. It represents one of the most ancient types of neurosurgery and neuroscience.

In the past, for Treatment of head injuries, including wounds and fractures Healing symptoms of diseases, such as epilepsy and headaches
For Ritual reasons   Spiritual reasons
For Letting out evil spirits in people who were thought to believe abnormally (mental disorders) Increasing the blood flow and preventing the development of degenerative diseases.
Not used in neurosurgery for medical purposes now.
I have used trepanation of my fingernail when hitting it semi regular as a carpenter with a hammer, causing dead blood/pressure under the fingernail. I would take a tiny drill bit and twist it rapidly back and forth into the damaged nail creating a tiny hole to release the pressure and let blood out. Common practice with old carpenters.

Craniotomy is the evolved procedure of trepanation in which a part (or a bone) of the skull is removed to operate any tumor or relieve pressure in the skull or brain.

This was the procedure done on my brother's head hours after the doctors realized they misdiagnosed a major scull concussion or scull fracture and not just a minor contusion. The brain had major pressure on it from swelling. This didn't show up for several hours. We rushed him back to the hospital, screaming and going beserk, but they had no neurosurgeon in house. This occurred at Clark AFB, Luzon island, Philippine Islands.

The doctors had a neurosurgeon in Manila flown in a fighter jet to Clark. He cut open the scull and removed a section the size of a large elongated orange. The brain pushed out but too late. The crushing pressure had already crushed/damaged his brain. He was in a coma for months. He was totally paralyzed for 34yrs the rest of his life. They never replaced the scull, nor added a plate, just pulled the skin over. Any touch resulted in a scream, as when I gave him hair cuts.

He lived I believe with the mentality of about a thirteen yr old, the age of his injury. He could barely talk or more of a slur, no pronunciation and only family understood him. He loved the Lord and let us know. Don't think I could have been as positive.
He's with the Lord now and not in his old cane wood wheelchair.

[Sower]

1 hour ago, Marathoner said:

Well said. My youngest sister works in a pharmacy, and she reports the most atrocious behavior from customers: threats, assault, theft, and bizarre misconduct. The sort of things I hear and see here in this part of Albuquerque are widespread. So is falsehood. It's like a disease.

This is the first I have heard anything about this, except the lack of enough employees to stay open. Why would anyone, or non vaxers, threaten or assault anyone at a pharmacy? What is it that is causing their anger, Marathoner?

[ayin jade]

8 minutes ago, Sower said:

This is the first I have heard anything about this, except the lack of enough employees to stay open. Why would anyone, or non vaxers, threaten or assault anyone at a pharmacy? What is it that is causing their anger, Marathoner?

People are short tempered these days. Mens hearts will grow cold as the bible tells us. They get angry over insurance issues, wait times at the doctor, cranky because they cant get their meds within 2 minutes etc. Im seeing folks getting nastier on the road too. The pharmacies my husband works at have a policy that if you start verbally abusing staff, then you get banned and need to find somewhere else to get your meds. 

And then there are the narcotic abusers who figure if they fight, they can get their meds beyond what their prescriptions/ the law allow. 

[Starise]

The world is sliding off the plate and anyone who sees what's happening is a conspiracy theorist and over reacting.

Meanwhile we have hyper inflation and the imminent possibility of food shortages, or at the least very high priced necessities. It must be very difficult to pretend nothing is happening. How long can we carry the act until we are forced to see this as the entry into the end times? COVID and how it went down has changed world economics.

Fauci is just a man, but he was a very powerful man who initiated policy based on all the wrong things IMO. He is but a small cog in a much larger machine. The devil uses men to his ends and I don't believe manufacturing a problem you made a solution for is commendable. But I digress.

If he stepped down he will be replaced by someone else with similar intentions because I think this has everything to do with an agenda, and in order to carry out the plan you need yes men.

The bottom line is God is in control. God is allowing events to transpire so these people will all eventually hang themselves 

I don't throw anything at anyone. We are told as believers to pray for our leaders and be peaceful people. We were also told to study the word and know the signs of the birth pangs. I believe they are beginning.

[missmuffet]

19 minutes ago, Starise said:

The world is sliding off the plate and anyone who sees what's happening is a conspiracy theorist and over reacting.

Meanwhile we have hyper inflation and the imminent possibility of food shortages, or at the least very high priced necessities. It must be very difficult to pretend nothing is happening. How long can we carry the act until we are forced to see this as the entry into the end times? COVID and how it went down has changed world economics.

Fauci is just a man, but he was a very powerful man who initiated policy based on all the wrong things IMO. He is but a small cog in a much larger machine. The devil uses men to his ends and I don't believe manufacturing a problem you made a solution for is commendable. But I digress.

If he stepped down he will be replaced by someone else with similar intentions because I think this has everything to do with an agenda, and in order to carry out the plan you need yes men.

The bottom line is God is in control. God is allowing events to transpire so these people will all eventually hang themselves 

I don't throw anything at anyone. We are told as believers to pray for our leaders and be peaceful people. We were also told to study the word and know the signs of the birth pangs. I believe they are beginning.

"The bottom line is God is in control." 

Well said and that is what we need to go with 

[Marathoner]

1 hour ago, Sower said:

Trepanation;  surgical procedure to create an opening or drill holes in the skull. It represents one of the most ancient types of neurosurgery and neuroscience.

In the past, for Treatment of head injuries, including wounds and fractures Healing symptoms of diseases, such as epilepsy and headaches
For Ritual reasons   Spiritual reasons
For Letting out evil spirits in people who were thought to believe abnormally (mental disorders) Increasing the blood flow and preventing the development of degenerative diseases.
Not used in neurosurgery for medical purposes now.
I have used trepanation of my fingernail when hitting it semi regular as a carpenter with a hammer, causing dead blood/pressure under the fingernail. I would take a tiny drill bit and twist it rapidly back and forth into the damaged nail creating a tiny hole to release the pressure and let blood out. Common practice with old carpenters.

Craniotomy is the evolved procedure of trepanation in which a part (or a bone) of the skull is removed to operate any tumor or relieve pressure in the skull or brain.

This was the procedure done on my brother's head hours after the doctors realized they misdiagnosed a major scull concussion or scull fracture and not just a minor contusion. The brain had major pressure on it from swelling. This didn't show up for several hours. We rushed him back to the hospital, screaming and going beserk, but they had no neurosurgeon in house. This occurred at Clark AFB, Luzon island, Philippine Islands.

The doctors had a neurosurgeon in Manila flown in a fighter jet to Clark. He cut open the scull and removed a section the size of a large elongated orange. The brain pushed out but too late. The crushing pressure had already crushed/damaged his brain. He was in a coma for months. He was totally paralyzed for 34yrs the rest of his life. They never replaced the scull, nor added a plate, just pulled the skin over. Any touch resulted in a scream, as when I gave him hair cuts.

He lived I believe with the mentality of about a thirteen yr old, the age of his injury. He could barely talk or more of a slur, no pronunciation and only family understood him. He loved the Lord and let us know. Don't think I could have been as positive.
He's with the Lord now and not in his old cane wood wheelchair.

I'm sorry to hear about your brother, my friend.

I asked that question because the piece you shared from TRT appeared to liken trepanation/craniotomy to lobotomy as barbaric practices, but this isn't true of craniotomy as you know. Emergency medical interventions are radical and performed only under dire circumstances. A tracheotomy is another example of an emergency medical intervention.

Lobotomy reached its peak during the 1950's, but thankfully that horrendous evil all but disappeared from the face of the earth. In a twist of irony, the former USSR was one of the first nations to officially proclaim lobotomy "anathema." Strange, right?

[Marathoner]

1 hour ago, Sower said:

This is the first I have heard anything about this, except the lack of enough employees to stay open. Why would anyone, or non vaxers, threaten or assault anyone at a pharmacy? What is it that is causing their anger, Marathoner?

It's not unique to anti-vaxxers, brother. Granted, some of the violence has been perpetrated by some who were swept away by crazy conspiracies, but what we're seeing includes folks from all walks of life. Pharmacies, restaurants, passenger jets, public transportation, and public venues of all kinds are experiencing levels of violence we didn't witness 40 years ago. It's not that it never happened (we know that). It's more commonplace now. 

In the beginning, we read articles about customers attacking restaurant employees over petty matters. Their order was taking too long... they didn't like their order... they didn't like the employee... and so on. Ah, but now we're seeing restaurant employees attacking their customers, often fatally. 

I don't know what's causing this, Sower. Like I wrote earlier, the sort of things that are common here in the part of the Albuquerque where I work and live is happening across the country. Where I'm at right now, it's not uncommon to pull into a gas station/convenience store in the midst of chaos. Employees and customers brawling in the parking lot? Yes. 

Somebody shooting randomly into/at the store? Yes. Walking through the door a few minutes after two or three men robbed the place? Indeed. Pharmacies in this town fortified themselves a few years ago, because assault and robbery were all too common. Now it's happening everywhere. 

[Sower]

17 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

It's not unique to anti-vaxxers, brother. Granted, some of the violence has been perpetrated by some who were swept away by crazy conspiracies, but what we're seeing includes folks from all walks of life. Pharmacies, restaurants, passenger jets, public transportation, and public venues of all kinds are experiencing levels of violence we didn't witness 40 years ago. It's not that it never happened (we know that). It's more commonplace now. 

In the beginning, we read articles about customers attacking restaurant employees over petty matters. Their order was taking too long... they didn't like their order... they didn't like the employee... and so on. Ah, but now we're seeing restaurant employees attacking their customers, often fatally. 

I don't know what's causing this, Sower. Like I wrote earlier, the sort of things that are common here in the part of the Albuquerque where I work and live is happening across the country. Where I'm at right now, it's not uncommon to pull into a gas station/convenience store in the midst of chaos. Employees and customers brawling in the parking lot? Yes. 

Somebody shooting randomly into/at the store? Yes. Walking through the door a few minutes after two or three men robbed the place? Indeed. Pharmacies in this town fortified themselves a few years ago, because assault and robbery were all too common. Now it's happening everywhere. 

To start off, just what does vaxers or anti vaxers have to do with any of what you are saying is going on at pharmacies? I have witness absolutely none of the"levels of violence" people upset in restaurants, pharmacies having to fortify themselves etc.

I tried looking this up on the tube, and about pharmacies experiencing any hostilities or assaults etc, and all I can find is they are so over worked as they cannot find qualified people to add to the work force, causing regular employees to be severely over worked. But that is everywhere not finding available people looking for work in most businesses.

My head is not stuck in the dirt, but I see no evidence of a significant increase in the violence you and others here have been exposed to, not see it on any media source, main stream or underground. I live in central Texas. Could it be a regional thing. Just confused, or rather surprised this is going on. Is it a large crowded city happening?

[Marathoner]

15 minutes ago, Sower said:

To start off, just what does vaxers or anti vaxers have to do with any of what you are saying is going on at pharmacies?

Sorry, but you referenced "non vaxers" in your previous post, so I responded to that. I pointed out that violence is not unique to one's position regarding vaccination. 

What sources are you using, brother? The local news here features many stories of violence in pharmacies going back at least seven years. As for national coverage of this particular phenomenon, UK news services have done a much better job of documenting that. "Pharmacy violence" on a search engine should yield plentiful results.  

Edited August 24, 2022 by Marathoner
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