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And wherever our cremated ashes scattered it will be rebuilt......if you believe. 

And God doesnt need evolution of millions or billions of years but a few seconds.

Isnt that so ?

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53 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

And wherever our cremated ashes scattered.......if you believe. 

And God doesnt need evolution of millions or billions of years but a few seconds.

Isnt that so ?

John Wesley wrote a sermon about this. If we are eaten by a shark, then the shark will not be able to use our essential elements. Only the energy we have that is stored and not essential for our being. At the resurrection, the very elements that make us up are going to be brought back together and resurrected. 

Even now, science believes the very elements that make us up have evolved over time from every living being that has ever lived on this planet. In the beginning, we were pond scum and over time we have evolved into what we are today. Reincarnation people believe that we lived a past life and that we inherit memory from our ancestors in and through our DNA. Science even has some evidence that we are able to inherit some of their memory with their DNA as it goes from generation to generation. That is why some people believe we should be held accountable for what our ancestors did and how they lived their life. 

The findings provide evidence of "transgenerational epigenetic inheritance" - that the environment can affect an individual's genetics, which can in turn be passed on.

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1 hour ago, JohnR7 said:

John Wesley wrote a sermon about this. If we are eaten by a shark, then the shark will not be able to use our essential elements. Only the energy we have that is stored and not essential for our being. At the resurrection, the very elements that make us up are going to be brought back together and resurrected. 

Even now, science believes the very elements that make us up have evolved over time from every living being that has ever lived on this planet. In the beginning, we were pond scum and over time we have evolved into what we are today. Reincarnation people believe that we lived a past life and that we inherit memory from our ancestors in and through our DNA. Science even has some evidence that we are able to inherit some of their memory with their DNA as it goes from generation to generation. That is why some people believe we should be held accountable for what our ancestors did and how they lived their life. 

The findings provide evidence of "transgenerational epigenetic inheritance" - that the environment can affect an individual's genetics, which can in turn be passed on.

I believe we will see the resurrection soon. 


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4 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

And wherever our cremated ashes scattered.......if you believe. 

And God doesnt need evolution of millions or billions of years but a few seconds.

Isnt that so ?

He turned water into wine in a split second, so yes.

My question is, why did it take Him six days?


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15 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

And wherever our cremated ashes scattered.......if you believe. 

And God doesnt need evolution of millions or billions of years but a few seconds.

Isnt that so ?

I agree wholeheartedly with your posting, but would like to comment on the title. The resurrection is a big theme in scripture and it takes a book to deal with it properly. But let us consider every resurrection recorded in the Bible. All are raised by the Holy Spirit, so the body that is raised is called "spiritual". This is not to be confused with "spirit substance". Our Lord Jesus made a point of denying this and then showing His resurrected body as "flesh and bones" (Lk.24:39). And thus we see in all cases that the resurrected one RETAINED HIS/HER ORIGINAL BODY. If my memory serves me we have the following recorded resurrections

  1. A boy through Elijah
  2. A boy through Elisha
  3. A dead man who touched Elisha's bones
  4. A boy by Jesus
  5. A girl by Jesus
  6. Lazarus by Jesus
  7. Jesus by Himself
  8. A company of Old Testament saints just after Jesus was resurrected
  9. A girl by Peter
  10. A man by Paul

IN EVERY CASE THE RESURRECTED ONE RETAINED THEIR ORIGINAL BODY INCLUDING OUR LORD JESUS. The most interesting case is that of Matthew 27:53 - the Old Testament saints. They would have rotted back to the elements, so there might be evidence that they received a "new" body. But there is none. On the contrary, they were recognized - even after some years in the grave.

Lastly, when our Lord Jesus bursts through the clouds at His apocalypse, scripture teaches us that the tribes of the earth (or Land) will mourn for the One whom they "pierced". That means that our Lord will still have His "piercings". That is some 2,000 years after His resurrection, ascension and seating at the right hand of God in His throne.

I propose that that based on this evidence, our resurrection bodies are a gathering and constructing of molecules by the Holy Spirit - to make our original bodies. I am willing to admit that our glorified bodies will probably not have humiliating traits like excessive age, weakness, deformities and sickness, but it will be the same body.

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1 hour ago, AdHoc said:

I agree wholeheartedly with your posting, but would like to comment on the title. The resurrection is a big theme in scripture and it takes a book to deal with it properly. But let us consider every resurrection recorded in the Bible. All are raised by the Holy Spirit, so the body that is raised is called "spiritual". This is not to be confused with "spirit substance". Our Lord Jesus made a point of denying this and then showing His resurrected body as "flesh and bones" (Lk.24:39). And thus we see in all cases that the resurrected one RETAINED HIS/HER ORIGINAL BODY. If my memory serves me we have the following recorded resurrections

  1. A boy through Elijah
  2. A boy through Elisha
  3. A dead man who touched Elisha's bones
  4. A boy by Jesus
  5. A girl by Jesus
  6. Lazarus by Jesus
  7. Jesus by Himself
  8. A company of Old Testament saints just after Jesus was resurrected
  9. A girl by Peter
  10. A man by Paul

IN EVERY CASE THE RESURRECTED ONE RETAINED THEIR ORIGINAL BODY INCLUDING OUR LORD JESUS. The most interesting case is that of Matthew 27:53 - the Old Testament saints. They would have rotted back to the elements, so there might be evidence that they received a "new" body. But there is none. On the contrary, they were recognized - even after some years in the grave.

Lastly, when our Lord Jesus bursts through the clouds at His apocalypse, scripture teaches us that the tribes of the earth (or Land) will mourn for the One whom they "pierced". That means that our Lord will still have His "piercings". That is some 2,000 years after His resurrection, ascension and seating at the right hand of God in His throne.

I propose that that based on this evidence, our resurrection bodies are a gathering and constructing of molecules by the Holy Spirit - to make our original bodies. I am willing to admit that our glorified bodies will probably not have humiliating traits like excessive age, weakness, deformities and sickness, but it will be the same body.

It is beyond amazing, the Lord created everything that is ex nihilo, out of nothing. Our bodies molded and fashioned from the red clay of the earth, and given the breath of life. Nothing is too hard for the Lord. We are tri part beings presently with our mortal perishable bodies. It would be nothing for the Lord to gather and collect every atom that made us, us, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye. 

1 Corinthians 13:12 (KJV) For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Before more reading and studying, I used to have thoughts about an exact cloned body of our DNA makeup. But scripture teaches it will be our old bodies, incorruptible and glorified. How do we wrap our heads around things we don't understand? 


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11 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

It is beyond amazing, the Lord created everything that is ex nihilo, out of nothing. Our bodies molded and fashioned from the red clay of the earth, and given the breath of life. Nothing is too hard for the Lord. We are tri part beings presently with our mortal perishable bodies. It would be nothing for the Lord to gather and collect every atom that made us, us, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye. 

1 Corinthians 13:12 (KJV) For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Before more reading and studying, I used to have thoughts about an exact cloned body of our DNA makeup. But scripture teaches it will be our old bodies, incorruptible and glorified. How do we wrap our heads around things we don't understand? 

Amen! And even our spirit and soul are the originals. Note the grammar of 1st Kings 17:22 and Luke 8:54–55. It indicates previous ownership.

22 And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived

 55 And her spirit came again, and she arose straightway: and he commanded to give her meat.

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2 hours ago, AdHoc said:

I agree wholeheartedly with your posting, but would like to comment on the title. The resurrection is a big theme in scripture and it takes a book to deal with it properly. But let us consider every resurrection recorded in the Bible. All are raised by the Holy Spirit, so the body that is raised is called "spiritual". This is not to be confused with "spirit substance". Our Lord Jesus made a point of denying this and then showing His resurrected body as "flesh and bones" (Lk.24:39). And thus we see in all cases that the resurrected one RETAINED HIS/HER ORIGINAL BODY. If my memory serves me we have the following recorded resurrections

  1. A boy through Elijah
  2. A boy through Elisha
  3. A dead man who touched Elisha's bones
  4. A boy by Jesus
  5. A girl by Jesus
  6. Lazarus by Jesus
  7. Jesus by Himself
  8. A company of Old Testament saints just after Jesus was resurrected
  9. A girl by Peter
  10. A man by Paul

IN EVERY CASE THE RESURRECTED ONE RETAINED THEIR ORIGINAL BODY INCLUDING OUR LORD JESUS. The most interesting case is that of Matthew 27:53 - the Old Testament saints. They would have rotted back to the elements, so there might be evidence that they received a "new" body. But there is none. On the contrary, they were recognized - even after some years in the grave.

Lastly, when our Lord Jesus bursts through the clouds at His apocalypse, scripture teaches us that the tribes of the earth (or Land) will mourn for the One whom they "pierced". That means that our Lord will still have His "piercings". That is some 2,000 years after His resurrection, ascension and seating at the right hand of God in His throne.

I propose that that based on this evidence, our resurrection bodies are a gathering and constructing of molecules by the Holy Spirit - to make our original bodies. I am willing to admit that our glorified bodies will probably not have humiliating traits like excessive age, weakness, deformities and sickness, but it will be the same body.

Yeah, original bodies. But the process is the same creation like God created Adam on the sixth day.

@Dennis1209

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