Understanding the Prophetic Word

[Selah7]

7 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

What he is saying isn't even biblical. 

Daniel plainly states that it is the armed forces of the king of the north who place the abomination that causes desolation. 

 

Hey, Shiloh.  Please cite the chapter and verse where this is written. Thanks a lot.

Selah

[Shilohsfoal]

2 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

Hey, Shiloh.  Please cite the chapter and verse where this is written. Thanks a lot.

Selah

 

2 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

Hey, Shiloh.  Please cite the chapter and verse where this is written. Thanks a lot.

Selah

Here is a link to the text. 

https://biblehub.com/niv/daniel/11-31.htm

"His armed forces will) 

Not " He will"

[Shilohsfoal]

56 minutes ago, Keras said:

When Jesus Prophesied on the MT of Olives, He gave a long overview. The 'fleeing to the mountains', referred to the Roman conquest and was fulfilled 1n 66 AD,

It is obvious that the Great Trib of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls will take place after Satan desecrates the new Temple. The final 42 months, Rev 13:1-8

No, the abomination that causes desolation was not placed in Jerusalem in 66 ad. It had not even been invented then. 

https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-15.htm

https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-16.htm

Edited September 20, 2022 by Shilohsfoal

[DeighAnn]

50 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

What he is saying isn't even biblical. 

Daniel plainly states that it is the armed forces of the king of the north who place the abomination that causes desolation. 

 

https://biblehub.com/niv/daniel/11-31.htm

 

This is the word of God. Would you also like to change it and say a man claims to be God is the abomination that causes desolation? 

 

Is this the man?  

 

I read Daniel 11 specifically looking for what you say is plainly stated and can't find it.  Which verse do you believe states that so plainly?  

I just want to make sure NO ONE is changing anything.  


 

[Selah7]

39 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 

Here is a link to the text. 

https://biblehub.com/niv/daniel/11-31.htm

"His armed forces will) 

Not " He will"

This is that locust army, led by the antichrist —

Daniel 11:31 
And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

We ought to all know by now what (who) this abominable one is.  He is the desolator, the vile person who Christ warned us about in Matthew 24 and Mark 13 and who Christ pointed us to in the Book of Daniel for understanding.  It is Satan himself who stands in the holy place and claims to be God.

Mark 13:14 
But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand)

selah

 

[DeighAnn]

48 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Your asking how will it be possible for an earthquake to take place in Jerusalem or for a mountain to be split if a nuke is placed in Jerusalem at that time. 

My answer is the nuke is what causes the earthquake. It is also the cause of the cloud which ascends into heaven at that same time as seen by John in Revelation. 

https://biblehub.com/revelation/11-12.htm

If you would like to read about those in Judea fleeing to the mountains, I can show you what they are doing in the mountains as seen by John in Revelation. And the same earthquake is mentioned there too just as the verse you quoted in Zech. 

Here they are hiding in the mountains. 

https://biblehub.com/revelation/6-16.htm

 

Here is the earthquake. 

https://biblehub.com/revelation/6-12.htm

 

Here is the cloud departing from earth like a scroll being rolled up. 

https://biblehub.com/revelation/6-14.htm

 

Have you ever watched a video of a nuclear explosion. That's what John saw on the day of the Lord. Same day the Lord stands on the Mt of olives. 

So that is your INTERPRETATION of what is written, and WHAT IS MEANT, but NOT WHAT is written.  
I understand. 

[Shilohsfoal]

41 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

This is that locust army, led by the antichrist —

Daniel 11:31 
And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

We ought to all know by now what (who) this abominable one is.  He is the desolator, the vile person who Christ warned us about in Matthew 24 and Mark 13 and who Christ pointed us to in the Book of Daniel for understanding.  It is Satan himself who stands in the holy place and claims to be God.

Mark 13:14 
But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand)

selah

 

No, my nephew who is presently in those armed forces is not a locust. 

[Shilohsfoal]

47 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

 

47 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Is this the man?  

 

I read Daniel 11 specifically looking for what you say is plainly stated and can't find it.  Which verse do you believe states that so plainly?  

I just want to make sure NO ONE is changing anything.  


 

So you can't find anywhere in Daniel 11 where it plainy states  "his armed forces" place the abomination that causes desolation? 

https://biblehub.com/niv/daniel/11-31.htm

Really, you can't find that anywhere? 

Edited September 20, 2022 by Shilohsfoal

[douggg]

4 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

Revelation 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Revelation 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

Revelation 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

Revelation 11:11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

Revelation 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

Revelation 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

Revelation 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

Revelation 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

Revelation 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

Revelation 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Revelation 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

Revelation 19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

Revelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Revelation 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Doesn't seem to be enough time for 

Revelation 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Revelation 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Revelation 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

Revelation 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

this must be the 1/2 WAY POINT

which is basically the same time these things take place


Revelation 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Revelation 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.


is taking place ALONG WITH
 

Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Revelation 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

 

Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Revelation 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.


Revelation 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

Revelation 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

2 Thessalonians 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

2 Thessalonians 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

2 Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

Revelation 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

 

 

[DeighAnn]

1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said:

So you can't find anywhere in Daniel 11 where it plainy states  "his armed forces" place the abomination that causes desolation? 

https://biblehub.com/niv/daniel/11-31.htm

Really, you can't find that anywhere? 

As for setting up the 'image' I believe I can, but for 'placing a nuke',  I can't find anything.