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22 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

…but if you had lost your children, would you call it whining?  …a broken heart never unbreaks.   Sorry, Kwik, just had to say it.   Selah 

I had one boil ONCE and when I read
 

Job 2:6 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.

Job 2:7 So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.

Job 2:8 And he took him a potsherd to scrape himself withal; and he sat down among the ashes.

Job 2:9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die.

I thought, OMG I would have FAILED right then and there.  JOB WAS INSANELY STRONG, in my humble opinion at least.  And I mean spiritually and physically and emotionally.  

Just goes to show at the first sign of anything it's best to jump right in and remind God of His promises and use all the tools given us.  

 

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1 minute ago, DeighAnn said:

I had one boil ONCE and when I read
 

Job 2:6 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.

Job 2:7 So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.

Job 2:8 And he took him a potsherd to scrape himself withal; and he sat down among the ashes.

Job 2:9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die.

I thought, OMG I would have FAILED right then and there.  JOB WAS INSANELY STRONG, in my humble opinion at least.  And I mean spiritually and physically and emotionally.  

Just goes to show at the first sign of anything it's best to jump right in and remind God of His promises and use all the tools given us.  

 

It's very difficult for me personally to relate to complainers- very recently I found myself really struggling with feeling sorta sorry for myself.So I talked about it here & I was on my own nerves hearing " griping".   

If I started sharing what I've been through in my life It would probably sound somewhat like " poor Job", lol

I'm just normally not a complainer or a whiner,maybe from the intense training I had athletically??? I've smiled & continued in show with broken bones--- you get used to pain I suppose or better said" used to hiding it"

Anyway,you may have read where I was always advised " read Job".     It's kinda annoying after the 100th time,lol

But the majority I believe are with you regarding Job- they think he's opposite of how I perceive him.... Can't relate to his responses & preferring death or never to be born,it's not something I feel,in spite of afflictions

Love you Sis,Kwik

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5 minutes ago, kwikphilly said:

It's very difficult for me personally to relate to complainers- very recently I found myself really struggling with feeling sorta sorry for myself.So I talked about it here & I was on my own nerves hearing " griping".   

If I started sharing what I've been through in my life It would probably sound somewhat like " poor Job", lol

I'm just normally not a complainer or a whiner,maybe from the intense training I had athletically??? I've smiled & continued in show with broken bones--- you get used to pain I suppose or better said" used to hiding it"

Anyway,you may have read where I was always advised " read Job".     It's kinda annoying after the 100th time,lol

But the majority I believe are with you regarding Job- they think he's opposite of how I perceive him.... Can't relate to his responses & preferring death or never to be born,it's not something I feel,in spite of afflictions

Love you Sis,Kwik

YOU are so very blessed.  So very very blessed.  




 

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1 hour ago, kwikphilly said:

It's very difficult for me personally to relate to complainers- very recently I found myself really struggling with feeling sorta sorry for myself.So I talked about it here & I was on my own nerves hearing " griping".   

If I started sharing what I've been through in my life It would probably sound somewhat like " poor Job", lol

I'm just normally not a complainer or a whiner,maybe from the intense training I had athletically??? I've smiled & continued in show with broken bones--- you get used to pain I suppose or better said" used to hiding it"

Anyway,you may have read where I was always advised " read Job".     It's kinda annoying after the 100th time,lol

But the majority I believe are with you regarding Job- they think he's opposite of how I perceive him.... Can't relate to his responses & preferring death or never to be born,it's not something I feel,in spite of afflictions

Love you Sis,Kwik

You know my stand on Job.  Often the way some describe the experience as Righteous Job, it is as though Satan went before God to say that Job would curse  God  if God let him bring harm to him. And God allowed Satan to do the harm to show Satan that Job wouldn't curse Him. Issue with that is since when did God feel a need to prove anything to the likes of Satan? Especially at the expense of a supposedly innocent man? Is God in competition with Satan? It sounds like a school yard response to some dare, " Oh yeah? Watch this! ". God forbid.

Job was self righteous. What does self righteousness mean to us? God used Satan to bring him out of it. 

At the end God rewarded Job greatly! Because He repented. 

God often rewards people for going through extreme experiences for our sake, here today. Another great example is the 3 boys who got thrown into the furnace.  The very last verse in that story is that " They were promoted", in this life. True, more importantly is the next life, but who gonna turn down God's rewards in this life?

 

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11 hours ago, Rosie1jack2pauline3 said:

Another question I would like to ask.

How do you know you have been birthed in the Spirit/ born again/ regenerated/made alive in Christ?

How could you possibly know you are a child of the most high...what needs to happen?

Service work in the name of God.  

I read your question as how do I know that I am born again.  I ask God to know Him. He shows me where He is at. It is through experiences usually sometime after I  make a request, that I get an answer.

Some years back I was visiting a church and when the preacher boomed out, " When Jesus gets back, He better find you at the foot of the cross!"

I boomed back, "Why? He aint there, and don't bother looking in that tomb,  cause He ain't there either!"

Then it dawned on me where He wanted me to find Him. Service work in the name of God.  I experienced the joy He promised.  There was always enough to complete the work, and enough left over to get started on the next mission. 

You know?

What a great question.  I would love to hear how others know they are "in Christ ".

 

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After thought to clarify.
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Genesis 9:13 to 17

13 I have set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and the earth. 14 When I bring clouds over the earth and the bow is seen in the clouds, 15 I will remember my covenant that is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh. And the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all flesh. 16 When the bow is in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is on the earth.” 17 God said to Noah, “This is the sign of the covenant that I have established between me and all flesh that is on the earth."

God's Word is over all things in earth and in heaven. His Promise cannot be broken.  "... for an everlasting covenant ".

What is significant about the bow? 

qaš·tî — 1 Occurrence

Genesis 9:13
HEB: אֶת־ קַשְׁתִּ֕י נָתַ֖תִּי בֶּֽעָנָ֑ן
NAS: I set My bow in the cloud,
KJV: I do set my bow in the cloud,
INT: my bow set the cloud

הַקֶּ֖שֶׁת (haq·qe·šeṯ)
Article | Noun - feminine singular
Strong's Hebrew 7198: 1) bow 1a) bow (for hunting, battle) 1b) bowmen, archers 1c) bow (fig. of might) 1d) rainbow

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2 hours ago, Dan Knight said:

Job was self righteous. What does self righteousness mean to us? God used Satan to bring him out of it. 

That doesn't come from this, 

Job 1:5 And it was so, when the days of their feasting were gone about, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all: for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually.


and if Job was self righteous, why would God have said

Job 1:8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

I don't understand where you are getting that from.  

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2 hours ago, Dan Knight said:

Issue with that is since when did God feel a need to prove anything to the likes of Satan?

We have to remember who Satan was.  God created him the full pattern.  He was a protector of the Mercy seat.  He was in charge of many kingdoms in Heaven.  God trusted Him.  (maybe God knew one day He would go bad, maybe He made promises to Himself that He wouldn't let Himself see the future, IDK, but you know He loved him)

The biggest betrayals come from those we love most.


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Just now, DeighAnn said:

That doesn't come from this, 

Job 1:5 And it was so, when the days of their feasting were gone about, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all: for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually.


and if Job was self righteous, why would God have said

Job 1:8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

I don't understand where you are getting that from.  

I get it from reading the entire event.  While praying for His understanding. 

If not then God would allowed Satan to afflict an innocent man for what? Ego sake?? Trying to out do Satan at the expense of an innocent man? The devil wanted to " tempt Job into sinning against God. He admitted that he couldn't with out God's ok.

So God is in league with the devil to tempt Job?

God forbid!  God tempts no one.

The reading is about delivering a self righteous man.

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Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, Dan Knight said:

I get it from reading the entire event.  While praying for His understanding. 

If not then God would allowed Satan to afflict an innocent man for what? Ego sake?? Trying to out do Satan at the expense of an innocent man? The devil wanted to " tempt Job into sinning against God. He admitted that he couldn't with out God's ok.

So God is in league with the devil to tempt Job?

God forbid!  God tempts no one.

The reading is about delivering a self righteous man.

Aren't all people who have evil come against them 'innocent'?  If the evil don't do evil things to innocent people then how is God supposed to Judge them to the lake of fire?  

 

2 Thessalonians 1:5 Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:

2 Thessalonians 1:6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;

I will make this my last post on the subject as I don't want to upset anyone with my views on this.  Hopefully I haven't already done so.  God bless

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