Climate Change Is Extremely Political And Agenda Serving, Unfortunately It Is Also True

[JohnR7]

4 hours ago, Sparks said:

It does not seem you understand this.  It seems if someone wrote something in a book, you will believe it, even if it is clearly pseudo science. 

Most books are a waste of time because the people have put about as much effort into them as you have put into this conversation. The age of the universe, I base on a dream I had and what God showed me in that dream. I base it on the same trigonometry that you use for your GPS. I base it on astrophysics and the expert opinion of people with a Phd like Tyson. I base it on geology and the layers of the earth and the rings we see in trees. Just to name a tiny tiny bit of the evidence. 

I have vast overwhelming evidence  and you have basically NOTHING in the way of evidence to back up your opinions. So if anyone lacks evidence it is you. It is very, very common for you to accuse others of what you are guilty of. That is the way most all of us are. We always try to put the blame off onto others. In psychology this is known at projecting. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection#:~:text=Psychological projection is the process,understand someone else's subjective world.

The bottom line is, take all the evidence for a 6,000 year old earth and put it on one side of the scale and all the evidence for a 14 billion year earth and put it on the other side of the scale and you will find zero, zilch, no evidence for a 6,000 year old earth. 

 

 

[Starise]

To those who think man has absolutely no effect on our planet one only needs to look at the buffalo, plastics in the oceans, nuclear and oil plant spills, deforestation, smog and pollution in general, chemical dumps into fresh water rivers.

Does any of this affect the climate? Nature can rebuild itself to a large extent, however in using deforestation as one example, a shortage of trees has a huge impact on climate. Contrary to the opinion that trees can all grow back relatively quickly. This is true of small landscape trees, but not true of the super tall trees in the rain forests of the world that took hundreds of years to grow.

[David1701]

16 hours ago, BeyondET said:

England in 1086 had a coverage of 15% by 1905 it was just 5.2% coverage England has struggled in trees for many years before WWI. Today it's back up to 13% just shy of the 1086 coverage. Average European country's tree count is around 37% coverage England still has aways to go to match other countries.

I'm Scottish and Scotland used to have a much higher tree coverage than England; in fact, much of Scotland was covered by a huge forest, at one time.

[David1701]

48 minutes ago, Starise said:

To those who think man has absolutely no effect on our planet...

I have never come across anyone who goes to this extreme.  We obviously have some effect; but the effect we have on climate change is minimal (except spiritually - see Revelation, for example).

Edited October 28, 2022 by David1701

[Sparks]

2 hours ago, JohnR7 said:

I can prove it, the question is: Why should I? 

I guess because I have been asking you to do it for about, what seems like, the last 20 days.  You cannot prove it, though, is the point.  I am just waiting for you to realize it. 

[Sparks]

2 hours ago, JohnR7 said:

I have vast overwhelming evidence  and you have basically NOTHING in the way of evidence to back up your opinions. So if anyone lacks evidence it is you. It is very, very common for you to accuse others of what you are guilty of. That is the way most all of us are. We always try to put the blame off onto others. In psychology this is known at projecting.

You have proven nothing yet.  Just waiting for that moment.

[The Barbarian]

5 hours ago, David1701 said:

I have never come across anyone who goes to this extreme.  We obviously have some effect; but the effect we have on climate change is minimal (except spiritually - see Revelation, for example).

Iraq was once a lush farmland of crops and gardens.   Now, it's a desert.   Humans made it so.  

https://www.chegg.com/learn/biology/introduction-to-biology/salinization-of-soil

We've known for thousands of years that man can make great changes to climate.   It's just that today, we can do it far more extensively than pre-industrial man could.

 

 

[JohnR7]

7 hours ago, Sparks said:

I guess because I have been asking you to do it for about, what seems like, the last 20 days.  You cannot prove it, though, is the point.  I am just waiting for you to realize it. 

I do not plan to put any more time into this in addition to what I have already invested. If you want to know, you can do your own research. You do not need anyone to spoon feed you. 

[Sparks]

27 minutes ago, JohnR7 said:

I do not plan to put any more time into this in addition to what I have already invested. If you want to know, you can do your own research. You do not need anyone to spoon feed you. 

I am still waiting on evidence about Florida being different 14,000 years ago.  However, I can understand why you would have to give up on providing that. 

[JohnR7]

3 hours ago, Sparks said:

I am still waiting on evidence about Florida being different 14,000 years ago.  However, I can understand why you would have to give up on providing that. 

Just go to google and do a search on Florida during the ice age. That is YOUR job, not mine. Quit trying to push your work off on others.