Is it haughty and arrogant to proclaim oneself saved?

[NCAP]

31 minutes ago, Not of the World said:

Perhaps I am mistaken.  

Perhaps you are not mistaken. I never heard anyone laying in a coffin say: "I'm saved".

[Starise]

@Not of the World I will confess that at times I have had maybe similar feelings towards some of a certain theological position because they all come off like they have arrived and the rest of us are poor groveling idiots who need to get with the program.

It's one thing to state a position and quite another to belittle another person or group of people while doing so, even going so far as to base the other person's spirituality on it. But I digress, that's their problem if true, not mine. I will admit to asking God to please knock them on their keyster a few times because that really isn't the right attitude to have towards other brothers and sisters in Christ.

If we are truly 'saved', then we won't have the need to advertise what we are if we don't hide our light and impact on the world.

In protestant churches being saved is a one time deal, although some Anabaptists i.e. Mennonites and Brethren teach you can loose your salvation. Most protestant denominations teach once saved, always saved. We know if it were up to us we would drop the ball. If God saves, He saves permanently. We can however, backslide.

I can see where TELLING someone we are saved in a prideful manner might have a reverse impact. How can we really take pride in anything we had no hand in orchestrating? Yes some can go around giving us the impression God loves them over others because they were "elected".

Edited October 17, 2022 by Starise

[Not of the World]

5 minutes ago, Starise said:

I can see where TELLING someone we are saved in a prideful manner might have a reverse impact. How can we really take pride in anything we had no hand in orchestrating? Yes some can go around giving us the impression God loves them over others because they were "elected".

Bingo!  

I also think a healthy fear of the Lord is a GOOD quality to have.  It seems that those who proudly and confidently tell others that they are "saved" have no fear of the Lord.  As for me, I think I'll remain hopeful but also humble and fearful.  

 

Proverbs 1:7

English Standard Version

7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction.

[Sower]

19 minutes ago, Not of the World said:

I appreciate your feedback and I love your username, by the way.   

I have a slightly different perspective.  In keeping with Ephesian 2:8-9 I believe that I should be extremely thankful for my blessing of faith and that I should be obedient by striving to be humble about my (hopeful) redemption and not, as the verse says, "boast" about it. 

 

 

Ephesians 2:8-9

English Standard Version

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

I hope I'm wrong, but you may not fully understand the verse.

"not a result of works, so that no one may boast"

Because we cannot receive salvation because of any work we do, therefore it is all about God's grace, He does it all, and all we can do is believe. NO works can gain salvation. Our works are an evidence that we HAVE BEEN saved! We do good works because of God's love and mercy, at the cross. We cannot brag at all about our working FOR salvation, because it is from God, totally.
However,
I continue to 'brag' about God's great sacrifice on the cross for little ole me!
He did it all. And that is worth BRAGGING about!
I am not ashamed of the gospel!

[Michael37]

5 minutes ago, Not of the World said:

Bingo!  

I also think a healthy fear of the Lord is a GOOD quality to have.  It seems that those who proudly and confidently tell others that they are "saved" have no fear of the Lord.  As for me, I think I'll remain hopeful but also humble and fearful.  

 

Proverbs 1:7

English Standard Version

7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge;
    fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Some food for thought in the Psalms:

Psa 40:9-10  I have proclaimed the good news of righteousness In the great assembly; Indeed, I do not restrain my lips, O LORD, You Yourself know.  (10)  I have not hidden Your righteousness within my heart; I have declared Your faithfulness and Your salvation; I have not concealed Your lovingkindness and Your truth From the great assembly.

Psa 71:15  My mouth will declare Your righteousness and Your salvation all day long, though I cannot know their full measure.

And in the New Testament:

1Pe 1:3-5  Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,  (4)  to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you,  (5)  who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

[Jayne]

1 hour ago, Not of the World said:

Please excuse my stupidity.  

I will now use that "ignore" function that I heard about and so I won't be reading, let alone responding, to any more of your posts.  Good luck.  

???????

What did I do?  I was not calling you stupid.  "It's not rocket science" is something I say all the time about salvation.  It's a phrase - not an accusation.

C'est la vie - as you will.

[Not of the World]

43 minutes ago, Sower said:

I hope I'm wrong, but you may not fully understand the verse.

"not a result of works, so that no one may boast"

Because we cannot receive salvation because of any work we do, therefore it is all about God's grace, He does it all, and all we can do is believe. NO works can gain salvation. Our works are an evidence that we HAVE BEEN saved! We do good works because of God's love and mercy, at the cross. We cannot brag at all about our working FOR salvation, because it is from God, totally.
However,
I continue to 'brag' about God's great sacrifice on the cross for little ole me!
He did it all. And that is worth BRAGGING about!
I am not ashamed of the gospel!

 

I do think that I understand the verse.  I think it's great to "boast" about what Jesus did for us but that's not the same as someone proclaiming to others that they are "saved".  

 

[Not of the World]

 

Matthew 23:12

 

English Standard Version

 

 

¹² Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

[grahampaul]

17 minutes ago, Not of the World said:

 

Matthew 23:12

 

English Standard Version

 

 

¹² Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

yes.we should proclaim the Word of God. humbly,with love,

[NCAP]

The dead are not alive. That is why the dead are unsaved.