Son of God, son of man

[Mr. M]

2 minutes ago, other one said:

So you do not believe that Jesus was "God" when he was here in the flesh.

Of course He was God. You may want to go back and read my responses, as I have

fully answered your questions to my satisfaction and will be stepping aside for awhile.

Grace to you.

[Mr. M]

21 minutes ago, other one said:

and while he was here, was he just a man like you and me?

you asked, I answered

 

14 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

No, He was the Son of God in flesh, and the manifestation of the exact image of His Father, in Spirit and Truth.

So, what is the problem here?

[other one]

12 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

Of course He was God.

Finally.

[missmuffet]

1 hour ago, Mr. M said:

you asked, I answered

 

So, what is the problem here?

You are playing games with us Mr. M. 

[farouk]

@kwikphilly That was a funny comment by @Mr. M ..............

[kwikphilly]

21 hours ago, Mr. M said:

So you don't like gotquestions, but wikipedia works for you? I am out.

ROFL....No,not at all,I was actually being facetious saying "Even ...." Well,I guess it didnt go over as intended.....

MrM I am the LEAST computer savvy person you'll ever meet,I barely can type without 9000 typos in one paragraph,I dont know of any websites,social media or anything but when I want to copy/pst a verse of Scripture I type in the Chapter & verse & presto-theres many to choose from & I tend to go with that BibleGateway KJV

I typed in Isaaih 9,I think? & there I noticed that wikapedic thing I posted,I thought"gee" everyones got something to say,like seriously "wikopedia"? Arent they like an online dictionary? What does a dictionary know about the Son of God?

Sorry,I guess I'm the only one that thought it was funny

  Anyway,back to business.....Id like to get back to the Purpose of this Threadmif we may                           With love in Christ<Kwik

 

[farouk]

4 minutes ago, kwikphilly said:

ROFL....No,not at all,I was actually being facetious saying "Even ...." Well,I guess it didnt go over as intended.....

MrM I am the LEAST computer savvy person you'll ever meet,I barely can type without 9000 typos in one paragraph,I dont know of any websites,social media or anything but when I want to copy/pst a verse of Scripture I type in the Chapter & verse & presto-theres many to choose from & I tend to go with that BibleGateway KJV

I typed in Isaaih 9,I think? & there I noticed that wikapedic thing I posted,I thought"gee" everyones got something to say,like seriously "wikopedia"? Arent they like an online dictionary? What does a dictionary know about the Son of God?

Sorry,I guess I'm the only one that thought it was funny

  Anyway,back to business.....Id like to get back to the Purpose of this Threadmif we may                           With love in Christ<Kwik

 

@kwikphilly Maybe I was digressing........

Indeed, the Incarnation is a most glorious subject in Scripture; John 1.14; Colossians 2.9; 1 Timothy 3.16....

[kwikphilly]

Blessings MrM

   Thank you for initiating this Topic....to begin with you quoted from the Book of John,what better starting point is there to come to know WHO Jesus is?

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John 20:31 These are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God,

and that believing you may have life in His name.

The Gospel of John is written for the expressed intent to allow the reader to discern the Son of God,

and the son of man.

Of course ,before moving I had I wanted to read again the things Written,that we may BELIEVE.....Ahhhh,I can read John 20;1-30 a million times & every time I Praise the LOrd that "My Redeemer Lives"

My favorire verse is about us,you & I and everyone who hears the WORD

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Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."  John 20:29

He was speaking to Thomas,Thomas was not present when Jesus Came to the others& he needed "proof",,,ha! How Blessed are we that our Faith Comes by Hearing the Word of God!

  So now it was recorded,John the eyewitness Gives Account of the empty Tomb & the Risen Messiah!

Then you gave the example of Nathaniel,Nathaniel,upon meeting Jesus is AMAZED that Jesus Knew he was sitting under a fig tree (obviously there was no one around,just before Philip called to him) and so Nathanial,being AMAZED exclaims "You are the SON of GOD.KIng of Israel" to Jesus! Again,we see the Word of God (Jesus)Received by Faith......now the Theme changes as Jesus Goes on to explain He is also the Son of man......

  Shall we stop here to discuss & study what we have understood so far ...or?

                                                                    With Love in Christ,Kwik

  

[kwikphilly]

Blessings MrM

    I think I understand that you Remain Planted in what is Written,to study and to learn from Gods Truth -without paraphrases or even trying to explain what you Believe as we only need ONE to be pleasing & Acceptable to.....I have many Brothers & Sisters that refuse to appease anyone & it often sounds cryptic to some but really -Gods Word is clear,we neednt say much...

You quoted earlier

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John 14:9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip?

He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

How much clearer does it have to be,I dont have to hear you say Jesus is God because you quoted Jesus Saying WHO He IS!!!!!

   For a time I tried to study Ancient Hebrew(wasnt very good at it) ,Koine Greek a bit better & Latin was not too difficult since Italian is my second language.....what I learned was that in that time people spoke a bit differently that we do today...much like reading Old English,its a different style of communication that we are accustomed to altogether......For example:Jesus Would Answer by Saying"It is as you say" instead of today we would simply say"Yes,thats true".......

  Well,it is very helpful in studying the Scriptures to understand the language of that time,the customs,traditions and different cultures to see what they understood and knew......perhaps more on this later-sorry I'm thinking out loud again,lol

   I just thought Id mention that I do not Believe for one minute that you do not Recognize Jesus Deity                                       In His Love,Kwik

[Mr. M]

2 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

Blessings MrM

   Thank you for initiating this Topic....to begin with you quoted from the Book of John,what better starting point is there to come to know WHO Jesus is?

Of course ,before moving I had I wanted to read again the things Written,that we may BELIEVE.....Ahhhh,I can read John 20;1-30 a million times & every time I Praise the LOrd that "My Redeemer Lives"

My favorire verse is about us,you & I and everyone who hears the WORD

He was speaking to Thomas,Thomas was not present when Jesus Came to the others& he needed "proof",,,ha! How Blessed are we that our Faith Comes by Hearing the Word of God!

  So now it was recorded,John the eyewitness Gives Account of the empty Tomb & the Risen Messiah!

Then you gave the example of Nathaniel,Nathaniel,upon meeting Jesus is AMAZED that Jesus Knew he was sitting under a fig tree (obviously there was no one around,just before Philip called to him) and so Nathanial,being AMAZED exclaims "You are the SON of GOD.KIng of Israel" to Jesus! Again,we see the Word of God (Jesus)Received by Faith......now the Theme changes as Jesus Goes on to explain He is also the Son of man......

  Shall we stop here to discuss & study what we have understood so far ...or?

                                                                    With Love in Christ,Kwik

  

As to John 20:29, I love any and all "blessed are" verses, and this is particularly one of my favorites. I think we share the same awe of reaction, understanding what a miracle it is that we even believe. People who don't accept pre-destined may just not be humble enough yet to accept how undeserving this honor. Jesus even covered this further with prayer for all who would go out with His message.

John 17:20 I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word.

We should receive this prayer with the full  power and authority of the one who is offering it up. We should also include this in our prayers for one another.

How does this tie in to the topic? In the Nathaniel discourse, I point out distinctions between the role of Son of God, and son of man, as I do in later comparison.

With this we see the blessings on those who believe without having seen as an example of a time that the Son of God and son of man were working on common ground, and in perfect harmony, resulting in the double blessing.

All for sake of the brethren beloved,

James

P.S. Sorry I missed your joke. I was in the middle of a tempest, and should have come back later to really soak on your word. I will do better, and I am more focused today to be a blessing to the forum.