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On 12/24/2022 at 5:25 PM, Waggles said:

Given that the original gospel is Pentecostal - stands to reason YES.

 

While I believe that the gifts have not ceased, I think you are adding to the gospel here by the above quote.

Kind of sounds like if you do not believe just like I and my group believe, you have accepted either a fake gospel or an inferior gospel.  I will go so far as to say that type of projection accounts for the difficulty some people have to accept spiritual gifts in the first place.  You may not mean to, but you are automatically inferring yourself as superior to what others may believe.

Frankly, I will never darken the doors of a Pentecostal church again as the worse experiences I have had in my life, are directly attributable to becoming involved with Pentecostals and the way they seem to believe they are infallible.

I fully realize that not all Pentecostals are the same, yet with the statement you are making regarding Pentecostalism, you are confirming what I have already seen and want nothing to do with.

Pentecost was a day in the Jewish calendar that marked one of 2 harvests and not the name of the gospel.  Since no amount of spiritual gifts will ever save anyone and in fact they have been sadly abused by so many, it is best to focus on the One who made those gifts possible by His blood shed for us and not on power we may think we possess.

The gospel is the 'good news' concerning God's Son and His substitutional death on our behalf and the fact He rose again and our belief in Him for our salvation.  Maybe consider what Paul meant when he said this:
 

1If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a ringing gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have absolute faith so as to move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3If I give all I possess to the poor and exult in the surrender of my body, but have not love, I gain nothing. I Corinthians 13

 

No, the original gospel is not Pentecostal.

 

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There are denominations out there that believe this but it is not a salvation issue. I usually point out that Paul makes it clear that it is the Holy Spirit who decide who gets what gift in 1 Corinthi

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Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. I Corinthians 13:1 NKJV

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Someone on worthy a true believer wrote speaking in tongues is a sign for all believers that there saved. I personally believe this is false. And can be used to overthrow a person's faith in Christ. I

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On 12/24/2022 at 9:23 AM, TreeFivew said:

Speaking in tongues is evil.  It's the practice of Kanadlini. I misspelled it, but the tongues in the Bible were about being able to go to a foreign country, while in ministry, and interpreting a language to that you would not normally be able to speak. The tongues now are divination.

Says who?

Certainly not to be found in scripture anywhere.  

 

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23 minutes ago, Ocean said:

No, the original gospel is not Pentecostal.

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

As for my Pentecostal church I rejoice greatly still these 26 years from when I was converted from being Roman Catholic to being born from above with the Bible evidence of speaking in tongues.

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Is speaking in tongues the norm ?

Yes it is for Pentecostal Christians.

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and others too.

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1 hour ago, Ocean said:

 

Seriously?  LOL!

Did I miss something? You said you'd be away. Where I'm from, people, especially Christians, wish you a safe and pleasant journey. It might have been the Iditarod. (SMILE).

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1 hour ago, Waggles said:

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

As for my Pentecostal church I rejoice greatly still these 26 years from when I was converted from being Roman Catholic to being born from above with the Bible evidence of speaking in tongues.

Would you be familiar with Perry Stone? He has some great Biblical insight.

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3 hours ago, Waggles said:

Is speaking in tongues the norm ?

Yes it is for Pentecostal Christians.

I have attended a AOG church. I doubt a lot of the tongue's we're for real. I spoke in tongues twice myself. I was alone and did not look for it. It's mostly emotional outbursts that's not true tongues.

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10 hours ago, Ocean said:

Says who?

Certainly not to be found in scripture anywhere.  

 

1 Cor 12:14 mentions how tongues will cease.  The tongues now are not the tongues of the biblical days.  They're supposed to be edifying, and not based on babble.

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Just now, TreeFivew said:

1 Cor 12:14 mentions how tongues will cease.  The tongues now are not the tongues of the biblical days.  They're supposed to be edifying, and not based on babble.

I'm not trying to judge.  I'm just saying what it says.

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