Addictions, bad and good........tattoos of Bible verses; thoughts?

[FJK]

1 hour ago, FreeGrace said:

 .... and others say they continued to struggle with them for years after.  I don't know what to make of it.

The Devil doesn't give up easily once he has claimed someone.

But the poser of Christ will always prevail if you keep your focus on it.

[Sower]

5 hours ago, farouk said:

FHII said: ↑

"Probably 75% of the congregation have tattoos, including myself and the Pastor ..
I have a tattoo, I am not ashamed of it ..I also agree that it makes a statement of freedom in Christ. .. We got a lot of folks inked in our Church. Myself, the Pastor, his daughter and grand daughter included. Now, even my wife"

Just curious, who is this "FHII said:" person who says 75% of the congregation have tattoos. I could not find their post on this topic in your thread. I personally cannot think of anyone in our church that I have seen with tats. 0%, except a visitor, and wondered about 'FHII' statement, looking for what they have said, that you quoted, and did not find it. 75% of the members with tats seems grosely  exaggerated.

Thanks farouk...

 

[farouk]

@kwikphilly ; @FreeGrace ; @FJK ; @Sower : Thanks, guys, for all your comments.......

[farouk]

6 hours ago, Sower said:

Just curious, who is this "FHII said:" person who says 75% of the congregation have tattoos. I could not find their post on this topic in your thread. I personally cannot think of anyone in our church that I have seen with tats. 0%, except a visitor, and wondered about 'FHII' statement, looking for what they have said, that you quoted, and did not find it. 75% of the members with tats seems grosely  exaggerated.

Thanks farouk...

 

@Sower If you scroll back, I think I did give the source of the quote. Blessings.

[farouk]

11 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

I agree,it's permanent scarring deep past the epidermis and into the dermis( or should be!) So I do think these type of" permanent" decisions should be considered carefully.  

Had I been so interested in learning the "art" myself back when I simply & spontaneously got my first tattoo Im sure I would not have an unrecognizable blob of ink on my shoulder blade today....too bad youth is wasted on the young,lol

@kwikphilly

Yes, it's a skill, an art, for a professional to be able to use a tattoo machine correctly, like you say.

The ink must be shot in at exactly the right level. Not too shallow. Not too deep.

(Experienced tattoo artists call inexperienced artists 'scratchers' because they don't go into the correct level of the skin.)

Going for the dermis, like you say.

Even though ppl have it done so overwhelmingly widely now, there's still a difference between those artists who do it properly and those who don't; one wonders whether some of those who have indeed been so keen and comfortable with the idea of going to the parlor have actually chosen an experienced artist and have had the dermis shot with ink pumpings carefully and correctly:

Lady Crosstalk said:

I have Christian friends who have them. They usually have their favorite Bible verse tattooed on a wrist--sometimes on the lower leg.

 

Nancy said:

tattoos ... everyone and their grandmothers has them now and, they do not a thing for me, what can I say? Pretty much every one I know, and that includes Christians and myself, have a tattoo so...

 

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[kwikphilly]

16 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

Well, haven't been following this thread.  I had heard some time ago that the OT had laws against tattooing skin.  I don't know if the same principle holds now or not.

Addictions, otoh, are usually (or definitely) bad things.  Having an addiction indicates being controlled by something, whether a chemical, an idea or an action.

I find it interesting hearing testimonies of people coming to faith.  Some say their addictions went away right away, and others say they continued to struggle with them for years after.  I don't know what to make of it.

Hi Brother --- isn't it something how different people will have different testimonies and different struggles for different lengths of time yet all on the same path with God in Christ and with the Helper!!!It just shows us how fearfully & wonderful Made each of us are in a very unique way,doesn't it?

Our personalities are exclusively our own and that's where we struggle,truly it is the flesh,our will & emotions are what must decrease as we Grow in our Relationship with God in Christ- one can be at a place of complete submission and surrender and instantaneously Receive the Freedom of Deliverance or( be like myself) reluctant to completely"let go" of all self and therefore no less Indwelled but greatly hindering that Same Power of Holy Spirit (no more,no less) that each of us have in us. Taking many years to break shackles & chains! Praise Jesus!

I don't know what to make of many things ! Lol- So Incredible our God IS ....so Patient & Long Suffering,oh to be more like Him!

[kwikphilly]

7 hours ago, farouk said:

@kwikphilly

Yes, it's a skill, an art, for a professional to be able to use a tattoo machine correctly, like you say.

The ink must be shot in at exactly the right level. Not too shallow. Not too deep.

(Experienced tattoo artists call inexperienced artists 'scratchers' because they don't go into the correct level of the skin.)

Going for the dermis, like you say.

Even though ppl have it done so overwhelmingly widely now, there's still a difference between those artists who do it properly and those who don't; one wonders whether some of those who have indeed been so keen and comfortable with the idea of going to the parlor have actually chosen an experienced artist and have had the dermis shot with ink pumpings carefully and correctly:

Lady Crosstalk said:

I have Christian friends who have them. They usually have their favorite Bible verse tattooed on a wrist--sometimes on the lower leg.

 

Nancy said:

tattoos ... everyone and their grandmothers has them now and, they do not a thing for me, what can I say? Pretty much every one I know, and that includes Christians and myself, have a tattoo so...

 

christianityboard dot com

And still Brother,I do not really feel one way or the other about people having tattoos-Christians and unbelievers as well.I don't feel one way or the other about women that wear their hair short or men who wear it long.Lots of make-up and dripping in jewelry or no make up at all is all the same to me- I do have personal preferences but I don't think it my business what others want to look like-I do care about what others want to BE like and I'm sure that's what God Cares about- everyone can BE Christlike ....Love One Another,let's strive to look like:Jesus and in Him that's what people will see- LOVE!❤️

 

[farouk]

47 minutes ago, kwikphilly said:

And still Brother,I do not really feel one way or the other about people having tattoos-Christians and unbelievers as well.I don't feel one way or the other about women that wear their hair short or men who wear it long.Lots of make-up and dripping in jewelry or no make up at all is all the same to me- I do have personal preferences but I don't think it my business what others want to look like-I do care about what others want to BE like and I'm sure that's what God Cares about- everyone can BE Christlike ....Love One Another,let's strive to look like:Jesus and in Him that's what people will see- LOVE!❤️

 

@kwikphilly And I guess my last post was really about how to get tattooed (properly).

Your last post here is about whether to get tattooed......

[farouk]

6 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

Hi Brother --- isn't it something how different people will have different testimonies and different struggles for different lengths of time yet all on the same path with God in Christ and with the Helper!!!It just shows us how fearfully & wonderful Made each of us are in a very unique way,doesn't it?

 

Hi @kwikphilly

Re. struggles specifically about getting tattooed, like you say, some ppl do indeed struggle with it.

Others don't seem to struggle with it at all, but simply seem to go into the tattoo parlor and have it done wholeheartedly.

Rita said:

..shortly after getting my tattoo done .. the dentist ask me about it - it opened up a conversation that would not have come about at all..I honestly felt OK about getting the tattoo in the first place.( I had weighed everything up , talked to my pastor, reflected on scripture ) The conversation surprised me, and it did serve as an encouragment at the time. I have had quite a few conversations at work when people notice it.

I saw a quote about just how prevalent it is in the Bible Belt; and those who work in tattoo parlors may well be tattooing clients of the most conservative of outlooks; I think there is plenty of evidence of this, right?

[bropro]

On 3/27/2023 at 12:19 PM, farouk said:

Hi @bropro Even going into the tattoo parlor for a faith based tattoo certainly keeps one accountable, right?

I would think that the accountability issue should be settled before one enters the tattoo parlor. 

Gary