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Glorify God. Ah okay. I understand I think  praise God, but in present day terms seeking glory is a strongly selfish thing, more  a goal of establishing a personal legacy, is it not?

God is Glory, He already is that which is perfect and cannot abide that which is not. All I could rub off on God is my sin, and I guess that too has been done already, as I am even now covered in the shed Blood of Jesus, washed white as snow in the site of God, and am made aware by the Holy Spirit.

It is pretty obvious, to me at least, that I am not glorious and cannot  rub off glory to much  of anything, never mind that which is Glory itself.

 I can be blessed by God's Glory, and hopefully be a blessing to Him. But praise, does that bring glory to Glory?

 I love to praise God, selfishly I am lifted to celebration when I do. I am blessed feeling God's Glory when I do. Yet glorify God? The English as I presently understand it just doesn't seem to work out with a proper meaning when I say  or read glorify God.

Have any thoughts on it or is it just my hang up?


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Glorifying God comes from the heart, not the mind for us to understand.  Maybe you are trying to resolve what seems to be a question to you with a tool that cannot comprehend true glory ... the mind.  When it comes from the heart, we feel it without thinking about it. 

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29 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Glorify God. Ah okay. I understand I think  praise God, but in present day terms seeking glory is a strongly selfish thing, more  a goal of establishing a personal legacy, is it not?

God is Glory, He already is that which is perfect and cannot abide that which is not. All I could rub off on God is my sin, and I guess that too has been done already, as I am even now covered in the shed Blood of Jesus, washed white as snow in the site of God, and am made aware by the Holy Spirit.

It is pretty obvious, to me at least, that I am not glorious and cannot  rub off glory to much  of anything, never mind that which is Glory itself.

 I can be blessed by God's Glory, and hopefully be a blessing to Him. But praise, does that bring glory to Glory?

 I love to praise God, selfishly I am lifted to celebration when I do. I am blessed feeling God's Glory when I do. Yet glorify God? The English as I presently understand it just doesn't seem to work out with a proper meaning when I say  or read glorify God.

Have any thoughts on it or is it just my hang up?

The Glory of the Saints is revealed at the Resurrection.

1 Corinthians 15:

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption,

it is raised in incorruption. 

43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory.

It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. 

Abiding in the Holy Spirit insures that the Lord is glorified by our lives.

John 16:

13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth;

for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak;

and He will tell you things to come. 

14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. 

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I think we do it in the way we quietly go about our lives as Christians.

It doesn't have to be something as grand as being a Preacher that saves 10,000 souls on Sunday morning and then goes Rambo and liberates some small communist country during the week, it can be something a simple and private as putting God first by asking his guidance in every decision we make during our daily lives.

IMO, it's probably different for each of us.

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12 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

1 Corinthians 15:

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption,

it is raised in incorruption. 

43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory.

It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. 

Abiding in the Holy Spirit insures that the Lord is glorified by our lives.

 

"Abiding in the Holy Spirit insures that the Lord is glorified by our lives." Where did that come from? Is that supposed to be represented as your own personal conclusion, or a quote of the Bible as part of verse 43? ??? It's placement confuses me.

 

 

"42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit."

 


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27 minutes ago, FJK said:

I think we do it in the way we quietly go about our lives as Christians

Perhaps so. I guess I see it as  blessing rather than glorifying that  which is Glory.

 

Not in response to you individually but  instead in response to the idea of being raised in Glory or with Glory: that seems to me is not to be by my doing at all.

I  evidently will be sown in corruption and raised in perfection, all by God's Glory alone. A blessing to me of course.

"Jesus said in Matthew 5:16, 'Let your light so shine before men that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father in heaven.' "Guess I just don't see that I give glory to Glory, but instead may be used as an example of what is not at all glorious yet God uses and is  His Glory. For which I am most blessed.

Bit of a hangup on those words I guess- Ha, I will get over or past it.

Will really like to read of others thoughts as an aid though!

 

 


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2 hours ago, FJK said:

I think we do it in the way we quietly go about our lives as Christians.

It doesn't have to be something as grand as being a Preacher that saves 10,000 souls on Sunday morning and then goes Rambo and liberates some small communist country during the week, it can be something a simple and private as putting God first by asking his guidance in every decision we make during our daily lives.

IMO, it's probably different for each of us.

@FJK There is indeed the simplicity of the phrase from the prayer which the Lord taught His disciples: 'Thy will be done..."

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3 hours ago, Neighbor said:

"Abiding in the Holy Spirit insures that the Lord is glorified by our lives."

 

3 hours ago, Mr. M said:

Abiding in the Holy Spirit insures that the Lord is glorified by our lives.

John 16:

13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth;

for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak;

and He will tell you things to come. 

14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. 

 


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8 hours ago, Neighbor said:

Glorify God. Ah okay. I understand I think  praise God, but in present day terms seeking glory is a strongly selfish thing, more  a goal of establishing a personal legacy, is it not?

 I can Glorify God the Father. You can Glorify God the Father.

"Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; "

 Jesus produces the fruit. We bear what He produced, IF we abide. This bearing Jesus' fruit Glorifies the Father!

We can do nothing, nothing, unless we abide in Christ.

 

John 15

"I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman .

Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he prunes it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

Abide in me, and I in you.   Jesus produces the fruit. We bear what He produced.

Abide in me, and I in you.   Jesus produces the fruit. We bear what He produced.

As the branch (us) cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit:

for without me ye can do nothing.

If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. 11

These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.

12This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you"

 

**To “abide” is a verb. It is active. Abiding in Christ is not a feeling or a belief, but something we do. It means to “remain” or “stay” and entails far more than the idea of continued belief in the Savior. John 15:5 further illustrates this abiding relationship with a parallel relationship of a vine and a branch.

Jesus is the vine that we, the branches, are attached to, and that produces all fruit that we can only bear,
yet that abiding we do is what bears fruit that GLORIFIES the Father!

So yes, Neighbor, you can GLORIFY God the Father!    cool, huh...........:)

 

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Interesting, I will do a bit of a reread and then study a little later on  in the evening. Thanks!

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