Just Coincidences? Or Time to Watch and be Ready?

[Dennis1209]

At or directly before 2030 A.D. could be exciting. To mention a couple of things to keep an eye on as watchmen. The initiation of U.N. Agenda 2030 and all that entails. The asteroid Apophis, which more and more prophecy scholars suspect, could be “Wormwood” or associated with the Tribulation.

Could there be signs of the season we are living in, the approach of the Tribulation? Just saying.

[BibleWords]

DeighAnn, 

Ps. 90:10–“ The days of our years are threescore years and ten; if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.”

This verse is speaking about the brevity of life. The words “we fly away” here in context are speaking about our spirit at death.  This isn’t at all about the rapture. 
 

The church is not mentioned at all in this verse.  In fact it doesn’t exist at this point.  The church is founded by Jesus Christ and never existed before Him.

The church did not get to heaven before the Lamb.  This verse in not about the rapture.
 

 

 

[The Light]

3 minutes ago, BibleWords said:

DeighAnn, 

Ps. 90:10–“ The days of our years are threescore years and ten; if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.”

This verse is speaking about the brevity of life. The words “we fly away” here in context are speaking about our spirit at death.  This isn’t at all about the rapture. 
 

The church is not mentioned at all in this verse.  In fact it doesn’t exist at this point.  The church is founded by Jesus Christ and never existed before Him.

The church did not get to heaven before the Lamb.  This verse in not about the rapture.
 

 

 

Psalm 90 is speaking about a rapture, and not the brevity of life. It is the 12 tribes across the earth that are raptured which is the Jews that are not in the place of protection that is prepared for the woman. Those of the seed of the woman will fly away at the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. 

The Church is in heaven before the seals are opened. The seals are the final week. After the Church is raptured God turns His attention to the second bride. Jacob had two brides. 

There are two harvests. The grain harvest includes the barley harvest, the dead in Christ and the wheat harvest, the alive Church. The fall fruit harvest is the seed of the woman, the 12 tribes across the earth. 

When the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, part of Israel will have its eyes opened.

Romans 11

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

What will those that have their eyes opened say when they realize that the harvest has happened?

Jeremiah 8

20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.

This is why you see 144,000 first fruits from the 12 tribes. There will be another harvest. The fig tree has two harvests. Israel was supposed to be the first harvest but they served other gods.

Hosea 9

10 I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness; I saw your fathers as the firstripe in the fig tree at her first time: but they went to Baalpeor, and separated themselves unto that shame; and their abominations were according as they loved.

Since the Jews served other gods, it is the Gentiles that are the first harvest of the fig tree. God saw the fathers of Israel as the first ripe in the fig tree at her first time. That means that God saw the fathers of Israel as the first fruits of the first harvest. Since they served other gods, they would not be the 1st harvest.

There are two harvests. The Church is raptured before the seals are opened. Then the days are cut short for the seed of the woman and they fly away at the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. If the days were not cut short, there would be no flesh saved or caught up alive. All would be killed.

The tribulation is over at the 6th seal. Then the wrath of God begins. Only the woman, those of the nation of Israel that flee to a place of protection and unbelievers will be on earth during the wrath of God.

[Sister]

Day 1 - Christ ascends/Gospel preached.

Day 2 - 2nd Coming. 1000 year starts.  Israel revived in "the flesh". Will be taught.

Day 3 - 2nd Resurrection.  Israel take part.  Raised to "spirit"

It's not about counting days, because the third day is the third big event.  The 'finale'

[DeighAnn]

4 hours ago, BibleWords said:

DeighAnn, 

Ps. 90:10–“ The days of our years are threescore years and ten; if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.”

This verse is speaking about the brevity of life. The words “we fly away” here in context are speaking about our spirit at death.  This isn’t at all about the rapture. 
 

The church is not mentioned at all in this verse.  In fact it doesn’t exist at this point.  The church is founded by Jesus Christ and never existed before Him.

The church did not get to heaven before the Lamb.  This verse in not about the rapture.
 

 

 

The 'CHURCH' will never 'go to heaven' as a group. 

NEVER, as it isn't written.  

The Lord will return at the 2nd Advent, for the day of vengeance, the day of the Lord.

When the 'alive and remain are changed' it is ONLY because HEAVEN has been opened and Christ and the armies have come to make the kingdoms of the earth HIS.

Satan is bound for 1000 years.  

Revelation 2 and 3 PROVE more than anything else, that the CHURCH must be PROVED, just like everyone else has, no exceptions.  And every message ends the same, HE who overcomes, endures, stands, ect....HE is saved.  Not the church he attends, not the 'body or bride' but HE the individual.  

Then again, how could there be a 'church of GOD' on earth WHEN all the kingdoms of the world are Satans?  All the 'churches' would be worshipping him as he stands proclaiming to be God.

How else would this be possible?  

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


And I agree, the spirit goes to heaven at the common death, if you have been saved from death and destruction that is.  If not, you go to hell to suffer torment until Christ returns and the dead are raised up

42So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

 

[DeighAnn]

4 hours ago, The Light said:

The Church is in heaven before the seals are opened. The seals are the final week. After the Church is raptured God turns His attention to the second bride. Jacob had two brides. 

How is that possible?  The LAMB was found worthy to open them until AFTER.  And when found, He did.  If you want to know what was under each seal, just read Rev 6.  If they weren't opened, then how would we know what they contained.  

Either way, the CHURCH was not in heaven 2000 years ago, as the good news was just beginning to go out to the lost sheep of the House of Israel, and whomsoever would.  The church IS HERE TODAY, so obviously not in heaven.  

Those in heaven are those who have DIED AND RISEN, just like Christ.  The ELDERS were a part of the Kingdom in heaven BEFORE the Lamb was slain.  How could that get messed up?   In 95AD a door was opened and there they were.  

ARE you saying JOHN SAW US but not himself?   This goes beyond stretching the imagination and is nothing but confusion.  

Edited April 4, 2023 by DeighAnn

[Selah7]

20 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

But we can't let the THE PTRD get in the way of Gods truth.   

This is one of the things about delusion, that spills in all directions. We are so focused on fighting 'Christ comes first', 
we don't realize how often we will turn on a truth sometimes because we are no longer able to recognize it because the PTRD has already taken and twisted it and in 
rejecting their lie, we can miss the truth.   So, while we do not WATCH for the 2nd Advent, we do WATCH for Him all the time.
 

1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

4And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

5Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

"What do Christians do? We watch for the return of our Savior at the 7th trump, and not before"

the 'and not before' is right in one aspect but not in the other.  WHICH I know you know, so just maybe for someone who didn't.  





 

What is the subject of this psalm?  Are you saying you believe Psalms 90 is referring to a rapture?  If so, which words say this?  Put it down for me, please.  

s e l a h

[The Light]

1 hour ago, DeighAnn said:

How is that possible?  The LAMB was found worthy to open them until AFTER.  And when found, He did.  If you want to know what was under each seal, just read Rev 6.  If they weren't opened, then how would we know what they contained.  

Either way, the CHURCH was not in heaven 2000 years ago, as the good news was just beginning to go out to the lost sheep of the House of Israel, and whomsoever would.  The church IS HERE TODAY, so obviously not in heaven.  

Those in heaven are those who have DIED AND RISEN, just like Christ.  The ELDERS were a part of the Kingdom in heaven BEFORE the Lamb was slain.  How could that get messed up?   In 95AD a door was opened and there they were.  

ARE you saying JOHN SAW US but not himself?   This goes beyond stretching the imagination and is nothing but confusion.  

Why do you keep talking about the Lamb being found worthy and trying to put that in a timebox? 

Look at this verse in Revelation 12

Rev 12

5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

Do you put this verse in timebox and claim that it happens after the 7th trumpet?

Are you going to claim after reading this verse in Revelation 12 that the wrath of God was over 2000 years ago?

 

 

[BibleWords]

I can’t understand where you would ever get the idea that Ps. 90 is speaking of the rapture. 
To even get this interpretation the entire Psalm has to be taken out of context.

No rapture could possibly be proven from the words, “we fly away” in this context.

The entire Psalm is a description of the brevity of human life.

What about the measure of “three score and ten” and the measure of a possible “four score”?

This is not at all an end time Scripture.  Any attempt at all to try to turn this into eschatology is a complete abandonment of contextual regard.

[The Light]

@DeighAnn I have a simple question for you. If the Lord comes only at the second advent and not before why do the foolish virgins ask the Lord to open up to them? The wise virgins go to the marriage supper. The marriage supper takes place in heaven. 

 

Matthew 25

10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.

12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.