What Is The Unpardonable/Unforgivable Sin?

[Neighbor]

 

[Neighbor]

 

[FJK]

Leads me to ask myself, does calling good evil and evil good qualify in and of itself as blasphemy against the holy spirit?

[ChristB4us]

3 hours ago, FJK said:

Leads me to ask myself, does calling good evil and evil good qualify in and of itself as blasphemy against the holy spirit?

If a saved believer believes that fornication is just referring to prostitution, and sees sex before marriage as a good thing, would you write them off as can never be saved?

If a saved believer does not believe masturbation is the work of the flesh called uncleanness, and sees nothing wrong with it, would you write them off as unsaved?

Would both of these examples be saved believers seeing something good when it is evil?

2 Thessalonians 2:1-15 KJV Paul spoke of the falling away from the faith 1 Timothy 4:1-2 where saved believers believed the lie that they can receive the Holy Spirit after a sign ( Matthew 12:39-30 ) and even again apart from salvation ( 2 Corinthians 11:1-4; 2 Corinthians 13:5 ), and yet Paul reminded believers of the tradition taught of us for WHEN we had received the sanctification of the Spirit & the belief of the truth at the calling of the gospel in verses 13-15 of 2 Thessalonians 2:1-15.

So what happens to these believers thinking that which is after the workings of Satan as being of the Holy Spirit & are disorderly?

2 Thessalonians 3:1 Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you: 2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith. 3 But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil. 4 And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you. 5 And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ. 6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. 7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you; ...........

14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. 15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

Still a brother, but as we are commanded to excommunicate as in withdraw from the unrepentant brother, so will Christ do as the Bridegroom for the Marriage Supper in Heaven, unless they repent with His help before the Bridegroom comes.

Otherwise, they will be left behind to die, where their spirits will be with the Lord in Heaven, awaiting to be resurrected after the great tribulation as vessels unto dishonor, vessels of wood and earth, in His House which is a damnation in and of itself being not of the firstfruits, the vessels unto honor which are the vessels of gold & silver, attending the Marriage Supper in Heaven.

[ChristB4us]

On 4/12/2023 at 11:08 AM, Neighbor said:

 

@George

There is another video after that in the OP's second post.

[other one]

36 minutes ago, ChristB4us said:

@George

There is another video after that in the OP's second post.

Noted

[ChristB4us]

2 hours ago, other one said:

Noted

Is there a reason why my submission was not approved in another thread that was awaiting approval?

When you sign in at Youtube, as a member, both of those videos have that arrow in a circle "Share" option for sharing any videos there.  Also, underneath each video is a summary for the video from which if it was copyrighted, that would be the place to put it.

And if copyrighted, then Youtube would allow the option for the owner's channel to not place the Share button on it.

None of those 2 videos are copyrighted nor lacking a Share button.

If someone is harassing this forum, threatening civil lawsuit, it is probably the woke people controlling the media, because there is no basis for those civil lawsuit when in light of those facts.

Also, censorship is not how one deals with false hood, but with scripture.

There are several Christian forums out there that has the modified Nicene creed as their statement of faith and even has scriptural references for each line of the modified Nicene creed of 381 A.D. but not all scriptural references given actually supports or prove or teachings that line in that Nicene creed.  When asked about it in showing how Genesis 1:2 does not really teach that the holy Spirit is the Giver of Life nor does Matthew 3:16-17 teaches the practice of worshiping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son.

They may use Nicene creed of 381 A.D.  as a statement of faith but they never bothered to teach it because those scriptural references do not support every line in that creed.  So if any one challenges it, post get removed.  They do not defend it with actual scripture.

So in the face of any video that is not of the truth,  as with any false teaching, we are to reprove it with scripture.  It is not done by censorship.  One has to wonder of the stance they are in that they wish to defend when they cannot do it by scripture but by deletion.

That would be depriving someone that the Lord may raise up to have an answer to prove or disprove what is being shown in the video.

Anyway, sharing my concern for the body of Christ as I leave it to Him to do His ministry.

 

[ChristB4us]

3 hours ago, other one said:

Noted

Incidentally, I was just tagging @George because he has "sort of " warned me about sinning against the Holy Ghost in another thread.  The 2 videos presentation testifies that sin cannot be committed any more.

However, I believe the actual sin is scattering potential believers away from Jesus was "how" they were sinning against the Holy Ghost.

Matthew 12:29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. 31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Verse 30 above is the key verse for how they were sinning against the Holy Ghost.  It is missing in Mark's reference.

Mark 10:27 No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house. 28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: 29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

So the only sin that is unforgivable as in unpardonable is never having believed in Jesus Christ as that is the sin the Holy Ghost will convict of and indeed, by not being in them is a testimony of that conviction of having never believed in Jesus Christ to be saved.

John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 

8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;

10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

So a saved believer or a sinner that is believing in Jesus Christ & that God has raised Him from the dead can be assured that they are saved and their past sins are forgiven, otherwise the Father would not bother drawing them unto the Son to believe in him to be saved.

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

Anyway, the only unpardonable sin against the Holy Ghost is the sin He will convict of and that of the sinner never having believed in Jesus Christ to be saved by the Holy Spirit not being in them.

[other one]

I'm not sure which videos you are speaking of, but this one isn't the place to discuss it.

[ChristB4us]

3 hours ago, other one said:

Noted

Can you explain this notification?

"Your topic was approved: Deleted:Kundalini Manifestations in the Church Compared to the Occult"

It first said the topic was approved, but then Deleted?

Was it approved by one mod but then deleted by another mod?