What Is The Unpardonable/Unforgivable Sin?

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1 hour ago, ChristB4us said:

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It first said the topic was approved, but then Deleted?

Was it approved by one mod but then deleted by another mod?

They can only be deleted by George.  Send a PM if you have any other questions.  We don't need to mess with Neighbor's thread.

[ChristB4us]

In light of the two videos in this thread as presented by Neighbor, anyone wish to contest that a saved believer can still commit that unpardonable sin when testing the spirts as to what is the spirit of the antichrist from the real indwelling Holy Spirit?

Or do you all agree with the two videos in how that sin cannot be committed any more now that Jesus has ascended?

I believe that specific sin is scattering potential believers away from believing in Jesus Christ.

What is missing in Mark's & Luke's reference is this verse for what Jesus is specifying as that sin against the Holy Ghost as "wherefore" is the effect in verse 31 of the cause in verse 30.

Matthew 12:29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.

30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Indeed, the sin of never having believed in Jesus Christ is the only sin the Holy Spirit will convict of as in condemn a sinner by.

John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;

10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

So we are allowed to test the spirits by knowing He is in us as opposed to the spirits of the antichrist that is outside of us coming into the worship place with their visitations of signs & lying wonders.

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 

2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:  KJV

1 John 4:2 is the same thing as Paul saying 2 Corinthians 13:5 as to where Jesus Christ is "presently" as "is come" in the flesh.

2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Going back to the apostle John's in testing the spirits as those who do not confess that Jesus Christ is in us but outside of us as if the "Spirit of Christ" is in the worship place coming with signs and lying wonders; that is the spirit of the antichrist

1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.  KJV

So do not be afraid to test the spirits by His grace 7 by His help as we will know the real indwelling Holy Spirit as opposed to how sinners seek a sign in receiving spirits in the world like mediums do when contacting the spirits of the dead by a sign.

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

[ChristB4us]

On 4/12/2023 at 11:08 AM, Neighbor said:

 

So you do not believe anyone is in danger of blaspheming the Holy Spirit when testing the spirits like the apostle John told us to do?

1 John 4:1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Paul warned of the same thing in regards to keeping the faith which is the good fight.

2 Corinthians 11:1Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me. 2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

in these latter days, many believers believe every spirit that comes over them is of God and warns anyone for speaking against that movement of the "Spirit" as if it was of the devil and that they were blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

Seems like reminding them as to when that sanctification of the Spirit and the belief of the truth was done at the calling of the gospel is a tradition they needed to be reminded of in testing the spirits so as to not fall away from the faith in Jesus Christ.

2 Thessalonians 2:1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first,...

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

Paul goes on to the next chapter talking about those that have fallen away from the faith as wicked and evil men that have not faith; that follow not after the tradition taught of us and are "disorderly" and yet with the Lord touching us per commandment to withdraw from them when they refuse correction, 2 Thessalonians 3:1-7 KJV but not to treat them as the enemy, but admonish them as brothers still. 2 Thessalonians 3:14-15 KJV

Because it is a damnation to be left behind as castaways to die, but their spirits will be with the Lord in Heaven awaiting for their resurrection after the great tribulation as vessels unto dishonor in His House, vessels of wood and earth, as they will literally hear His voice and follow Him and not follow that stranger's voice ( tongues for private use ) any more. 2 Thessalonians 2:12 with 2 Timothy 2:18-21 KJV

So there is no loss of salvation but it is a matter of seeking the other's good in the Lord in being ready for the Bridegroom for when He comes as many are out to the market seeking to be continually filled with "oil" aka "holy Spirit" after other signs and not just after tongues for private use and yet that iniquity is why they were not ready to go.  Matthew 25:1-13 KJV

Granted, I cannot make any one discern with the Lord but I just do not believe the blasphemy of the Holy Ghost applies here when we are to be not believing every spirit but test them by knowing He has been in us since salvation so that any spirit coming over them later in life is not the real indwelling holy spirit but the spirit of the antichrist instead.

 

[Neighbor]

6 hours ago, ChristB4us said:

So you do not believe anyone is in danger of blaspheming the Holy Spirit when testing the spirits like the apostle John told us to do?

I presented a video from Got Questions that I found interesting.  Simple as that.

[ChristB4us]

13 hours ago, Neighbor said:

I presented a video from Got Questions that I found interesting.  Simple as that.

Okay.  Thanks for sharing.