Question from an unbelieving Jew...

[NConly]

On 5/5/2023 at 7:20 AM, WordSword said:

The Jeremiah 31:31 and Eze 36:24-27 prophecies involve Jews who believe in God but not in the Lord Jesus. This new and final Covenant between God and Israel will be what God is going to do with them.

This "New Covenant" cannot be the present and "everlasting covenant" of the Christian, because it is made between the Father and the Son, and not between God and man as before and will be made one more time (Covenant of Redemption - Heb 13:20, 21); and the Christians are recipients of it.

Im confused by this post need help.

You state:

This "New Covenant" cannot be the present and "everlasting covenant" of the Christian, because it is made between the Father and the Son, and not between God and man.

Jere says:

Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

that looks like between God and man not God and Son?

 

you state :

and will be made one more time (Covenant of Redemption - Heb 13:20, 21);

Heb says:

Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

Here it say everlasting covenant,?

Thanks

[Guest]

10 hours ago, NConly said:

Im confused by this post need help.

You state:

This "New Covenant" cannot be the present and "everlasting covenant" of the Christian, because it is made between the Father and the Son, and not between God and man.

Jere says:

Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

that looks like between God and man not God and Son?

 

you state :

and will be made one more time (Covenant of Redemption - Heb 13:20, 21);

Heb says:

Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

Here it say everlasting covenant,?

Thanks

The present new covenant in Christ's Blood is the "Everlasting Covenant," and is between the Father and the Son and is not between God and man. There will also be one more new covenant for Israel between God and them during the Millennium (Jer 31; Eze 36). God bless!

[NConly]

44 minutes ago, WordSword said:

The present new covenant in Christ's Blood is the "Everlasting Covenant," and is between the Father and the Son and is not between God and man. There will also be one more new covenant for Israel between God and them during the Millennium (Jer 31; Eze 36). God bless!

ok then thanks. I disagree.

[Guest]

45 minutes ago, NConly said:

ok then thanks. I disagree.

Thanks for the reply, and that's ok of course. 

[com7fy8]

On 5/3/2023 at 6:44 AM, JohnD said:

How can I prove that Jesus was not the Messiah?

Well, you can't prove what is not true.

And God proves Himself in us.

But I am aware how ones will argue that prophetic scriptures simply do not mean what Christians say they do; this is one way certain rabbis claim to disprove the claims of Christians.

And, of course, this is like what some number of New Testament believers do . . . when disagreeing with what others say: "That word doesn't mean that." "That verse does not mean that; you are taking it out of context."

But God knows what He believes, and He acts accordingly. No matter how anyone misrepresents God's word or makes it seem as though we can never get straight with each other about what God's word means by something > 

"'So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth;

   It shall not return to Me void,

   But it shall accomplish what I please,

   And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it.'" 

                                           (Isaiah 55:11)

God's word, then, is unconditionally guaranteed to do all which God Himself desires > all that He knows His word means. And this is so more and better than we can now understand for drawing conclusions and explaining. But as we grow as God's children, we develop in ability to discover all God does with us, as His meaning of His word  . . . how He shares with us, proving Himself in us.