Michael37 Posted June 20, 2023 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,952 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,870 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Apocalyptophilia -"a love or fondness for the apocalypse". Apocalyptophobia -"a dislike or aversion to the apocalypse". Apocalyptomania -"an excessive enthusiasm or excitement for the apocalypse". I held office in the local Church of the Nazarene from 2010 to 2015 and during that time I observed very little mention of the Apocalypse. When a former pastor of this assembly came back from Australia for a visit I mentioned to him that no-one seemed to have any enthusiasm for things apocalyptic. His response was that as a denomination they felt there was too much emphasis on the Apocalypse, and that some denominations and movements were obsessed with it, something that was discouraged within the Church of the Nazarene. It further transpired that he didn't preach from the Book of Revelation. So according to the evidence, some are apocalyptophiles, some are apocalyptophobes, and some are apocalyptomaniacs. The internet is buzzing with beliefs about the beasts and the battle to come. But is there actually too much emphasis on the apocalypse in some quarters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted June 20, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2023 20 minutes ago, Michael37 said: But is there actually too much emphasis on the apocalypse in some quarters? imo, no. There is a lack of knowledge though as to the correct understanding of things discussed regarding the apocalypse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted June 20, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,820 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,806 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2023 32 minutes ago, Michael37 said: But is there actually too much emphasis on the apocalypse in some quarters? "In some quarters"..... yes. We should be about teaching/preaching the book of Revelation along with other passages in the Bible about the end times..... .....however, "in some quarters" [internet forums], some people are far too obsessed with fighting about who the Antichrist will be, pre-mill, a-mill, or post-mill, and who the participants are in Revelation 12. These same people ... wouldn't walk across the street to witness to a lost neighbor. There is genuine Biblical interest and then there is an obsession with is who right about things we won't know until the time comes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steward George Posted June 20, 2023 Group: Steward Followers: 110 Topic Count: 10,465 Topics Per Day: 1.26 Content Count: 27,777 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 15,478 Days Won: 129 Joined: 06/30/2001 Status: Online Birthday: 09/21/1971 Steward Share Posted June 20, 2023 39 minutes ago, Michael37 said: But is there actually too much emphasis on the apocalypse in some quarters? If it's fear-based, then yes. I've seen two different scenarios that are harmful to the body of Christ. 1st ... an escapism mentality that cripples what someone should be doing for the Kingdom. 2nd -- a fear-based mentality that sets up a bunker mentality. If it's trying to wake up an apathetic church that needs to realize the time is short ... it should be a motivating factor to reach souls for the Kingdom! So it depends on how it's presented and how it's received. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior12 Posted June 21, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,428 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 1,516 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2023 No. The prophets when given the message to the things that must come to past in the old days, work steadfastly to proclaim the message. We have the word and it contains prophetic messages, which as students of the word, try to put heads together to come to an understand of the times ect., especially times like these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJK Posted June 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.90 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2023 How does concentrating on the Apocalypse help me be a better Christian in my daily life? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior12 Posted June 21, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,428 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 1,516 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Michael37 said: But is there actually too much emphasis on the apocalypse in some quarters? What is too much emphasis ?. If someone wants to learn about a subject that is complex, he has to spend the time for research, reviews, and the many books and literature that is written about it, especially when it is a unique subject . Each person has to know the limitations of his time and use it wisely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Man Posted June 21, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,072 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 553 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Michael37 said: But is there actually too much emphasis on the apocalypse in some quarters? Well, yes and no, people who do not understand Eschatology but force it forth anyway are just confusing the majority who do not seem to have a interest, probably because they do not like being confused. The no however is because those on earth during the 70th week need guidance. Thus, just like Jesu gave guidance to the Disciples before he died, and the Disciples guidance to the young Church, we are going to not be here for the 70th week, se we need to teach this, leave videos, tat show what is going to go down, etc. etc. Its not imperative that we know tbh, it is imperative who show those left on earth, that we served the one true God. Then leave then a life-line as in what is going to happen, where, when and how. When this comes to pass, it will help build their faith. Its not going to be easy to lay down ones life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted June 21, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 hour ago, FJK said: How does concentrating on the Apocalypse help me be a better Christian in my daily life? You will walk closer to God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrobyter Posted June 21, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,596 Content Per Day: 1.07 Reputation: 2,446 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/28/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/28/1957 Share Posted June 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Michael37 said: Apocalyptophilia -"a love or fondness for the apocalypse". Apocalyptophobia -"a dislike or aversion to the apocalypse". Apocalyptomania -"an excessive enthusiasm or excitement for the apocalypse". I held office in the local Church of the Nazarene from 2010 to 2015 and during that time I observed very little mention of the Apocalypse. When a former pastor of this assembly came back from Australia for a visit I mentioned to him that no-one seemed to have any enthusiasm for things apocalyptic. His response was that as a denomination they felt there was too much emphasis on the Apocalypse, and that some denominations and movements were obsessed with it, something that was discouraged within the Church of the Nazarene. It further transpired that he didn't preach from the Book of Revelation. So according to the evidence, some are apocalyptophiles, some are apocalyptophobes, and some are apocalyptomaniacs. The internet is buzzing with beliefs about the beasts and the battle to come. But is there actually too much emphasis on the apocalypse in some quarters? Shalom, Michael. Absolutely not! How can there EVER be too much emphasis on a book of the Bible? "Apokalupsis," which means "Uncovering," is also rendered "Revelation" (singular by the way, not plural!) If anything, there's too LITTLE emphasis placed upon God's Word. The actual title of the book is found in Revelation 1:1-2 ... Ἀποκάλυψις Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, ἣν ἔδωκεν αὐτῷ ὁ Θεός, δεῖξαι τοῖς δούλοις αὐτοῦ, ἃ δεῖ γενέσθαι ἐν τάχει, καὶ ἐσήμανεν ἀποστείλας διὰ τοῦ ἀγγέλου αὐτοῦ τῷ δούλῳ αὐτοῦ Ἰωάννῃ, ὃς ἐμαρτύρησεν τὸν λόγον τοῦ Θεοῦ καὶ τὴν μαρτυρίαν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, ὅσα εἶδεν. Apokalupsis Ieesou Christou, heen edooken autoo ho Theos, deixai tois doulois autou, ha dei genesthai en tachei, kai eseemanen aposteilas dia tou aggelou autou too douloo autou Iooannee, hos emartureesen ton logon tou Theou kai teen marturian Ieesou Christou, hosa eiden. It means, An-uncovering of-Yeeshuwa` Messiah, which gave to-Him the God, to-show to-the slaves of-Him, what-things are-necessary to-take-place in haste, and he-marked-it having-sent-it through the messenger of-Him to-the slave of-Him Yochanan/John, who gave-testimony of-the Word of-the God and the witness of-Yeeshuwa` Messiah, as-much-as he-saw. Thus, the book passed through a chain of individuals: From God to Yeeshuwa` to His messenger to Yochanan to Yeeshuwa`s slaves (to those who first received the book and to us, as well). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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