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On 7/8/2023 at 3:14 PM, JAG** said:

Question: How is God good or just to abandon to Hell those who have never even heard the gospel?

 

This is a statement about God ....do you have any scripture that comes even a little close to support the above statement about God. 

This statement about God is not fed by any scripture that is given by God...where then does it come from? If I may say from ignorance, or from anyone who thinks out of scripture...

Please provide scripture references to be discussed. 

On 7/8/2023 at 3:14 PM, JAG** said:

 



JAG Writes:

Consider the following:

First, we Bible believing Christians start with the true proclamation that
God always does that which is right.

 

 

On 7/8/2023 at 3:14 PM, JAG** said:



This means that the God who always does what is right, world-wide
and history-wide, is never going to abandon one of His elect to Gehenna,
but will find a way to save them and give them the gift of eternal life as
per John 3:16's "shall not perish but have eternal life."

Second, we Bible believing Christians MUST stay within the confines
of doctrinal orthodoxy and so we hold solid and fast to John 14:6
that correctly teaches: no man can come to the Father except through
believing in the Lord Jesus as his Savior.

Third, none of the above prevents us from considering the following:

Eternal Now. With regard to God's knowledge there is no past. present and future.
God sees everything in the Eternal NOW. God's Omniscience demands this position.
God now knows all that can be known, God does not learn new information and new truths.


So?

So the Eternal NOW knowledge is God's reality. And God's reality IS REALITY.

What YOU (we) can see is very limited and what YOU (we) can see IS NOT REALITY.

God has Middle Knowledge -- what that means is that God sees and knows fully
what every human being would choose to do under all possible sets of different
circumstances.



Let us take for an example a man named Akua Adisa, born in Africa in the year 1600 A.D.

Akua lived and died never knowing a single word of the gospel message.

God's Middle Knowledge knows precisely what Akua Adisa will choose to do in all possible

sets of circumstances --

-- for example if Akua Adisa had been born in, say, South Carolina in the year 1990 A.D.
and had traveled to hear Franklin Graham preach the gospel.


How is this ↓ conclusion NOT compelling?

If the Sovereign God knows that Akua Adisa would have accepted the Lord Jesus as his
Savior if he had been born in the year 1990 A.D. in South Carolina when he heard Franklin
Graham preach the gospel then in God's reality Akua Adisa has accepted the Lord Jesus as
his Savior and has therefore fulfilled the requirements of John 14:6 no man can come to the
Father except through faith in the Lord Jesus.

Are we not compelled to reach this conclusion?

Thoughts?

__________________________

 

Scripture says otherwise, it says that everyone will be put in the valley of decision...

Even Jesus said: that he had been put in the valley of decision numerous times...in abadance...time after time till the last moment of his life and beyond till the moment of his resurrection and beyond that till the moment of ascension...

Read the Bible what it says about Jesus. 

I have to go to the very low before I ascent in the very high...

All those who died before Jesus Christ are witnesses against you. Whether believers and in Heaven or unbelievers are where they are in their final destination. That is telling that they have already appeared before the Judgement sit of Jesus...who is having the Keys of Death and Hades...and the Keys of David...whom God had appointed to be the judge of all whether living and or dead. 

That is telling us that Jesus will be Throne as the Lord of all and the Judge of all sometime along the way and he will take the Judgement from the hands of someones else's for the final judgment...

Everyone will be accountable for himself for making his own decision...

 

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