I AM THAT I AM

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

1 hour ago, Truswell said:

 

I also know what will happen to those who deny Jesus.

At nearly 80 years of age, and being a Christian from childhood, baptised age twelve, and following the Lord all the days of my life, there is not much you can tell me.

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You were complaining about the lower case letters in the word Lord for goodness sake. I was just letting you know that thats how it is written in the Psalm. You were complaining about Jesus not being elevated somehow and I was just letting you know the Father exalted him above every name.

In your first post where you were talking about you hated Jesus deniers because somehow the scriptures in my post about Jesus indicated I was one in your mind, so I was just letting you know that was a scripture you were offfended at. And after that I pointed out that the verse was right under your nose.

I certainly hope there isn't anything more I need to tell you.

 

[Truswell]

4 hours ago, AFlameOfFire said:

You were complaining about the lower case letters in the word Lord for goodness sake. I was just letting you know that thats how it is written in the Psalm. You were complaining about Jesus not being elevated somehow and I was just letting you know the Father exalted him above every name.

In your first post where you were talking about you hated Jesus deniers because somehow the scriptures in my post about Jesus indicated I was one in your mind, so I was just letting you know that was a scripture you were offfended at. And after that I pointed out that the verse was right under your nose.

I certainly hope there isn't anything more I need to tell you.

 

Hebrew was written all in capitols. When it was translated into Greek, the translators began using lower case letters. Unfortunately, the Israelites out of Egypt continued to worship the only gods they knew. These were the Egyptian gods they had grown up with over 400 years. They included the Golden Calf, Astaroth and other Baals, wooden poles even. They called these graven images LORD, and unfortunately the translators left the false gods, the idols, in upper case letters. The golden calf Aaron made after leaving Egypt is called LORD. Check it out. The Greeks probably worshipped these same gods themselves. The misunderstanding this has caused over the centuries is enormous. False gods were called LORD and the true God was called Lord, but there are exceptions. Magistrates are lords.

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Edited October 8, 2023 by Truswell

[other one]

14 hours ago, Truswell said:

Who was the Word in the beginning?

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Yahweh

[other one]

6 hours ago, Truswell said:

Hebrew was written all in capitols.

I would say that Hebrew has no capitol or lower case letters.

It is my understanding that the Greek manuscripts we have of the early texts were written in all Greek upper case letters or all caps.

So basically the original tests would mean that there is no difference in the words translated God/god, Lord/lord except for the translators putting a little context to the Bible concerning things referring to any of the Trinity.

[Truswell]

1 hour ago, other one said:

Yahweh

Yahweh - Wikipedia

Edited October 8, 2023 by Truswell

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

8 hours ago, Truswell said:

Hebrew was written all in capitols. When it was translated into Greek, the translators began using lower case letters. Unfortunately, the Israelites out of Egypt continued to worship the only gods they knew. These were the Egyptian gods they had grown up with over 400 years. They included the Golden Calf, Astaroth and other Baals, wooden poles even. They called these graven images LORD, and unfortunately the translators left the false gods, the idols, in upper case letters. The golden calf Aaron made after leaving Egypt is called LORD. Check it out. The Greeks probably worshipped these same gods themselves. The misunderstanding this has caused over the centuries is enormous. False gods were called LORD and the true God was called Lord, but there are exceptions. Magistrates are lords.

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Your beef is not with me

OT Hebrew is written by translators this way

Psalm 110:1 [[A Psalm of David.]]

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

NT Greek carries over the same verse this way

Mark 12:36 For David himself said by the Holy Ghost,

The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Jesus puts in his two cents here

Mark 12:37 David therefore himself calleth him Lord; and whence is he then his son?

And the common people heard him gladly.

And in this verse shows the three that bear witness in heavem

Mark 12:36 For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven,

the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost:

and these three are one.

What does it say?

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father) full of grace and truth.

Who was made of a woman made under the law, Jesus

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

So we are given to know

God made Jesus, the Word made flesh, Lord and Christ

Have you never heard of

 The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost?

 

 

 

 

Edited October 8, 2023 by AFlameOfFire

[Truswell]

1 hour ago, other one said:

I would say that Hebrew has no capitol or lower case letters.

It is my understanding that the Greek manuscripts we have of the early texts were written in all Greek upper case letters or all caps.

So basically the original tests would mean that there is no difference in the words translated God/god, Lord/lord except for the translators putting a little context to the Bible concerning things referring to any of the Trinity.

What language was the Bible originally written in? | Britannica

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[Guest AFlameOfFire]

 

The verse which "supposedly denies" Jesus (meaning Acts 2:36) is preceeded by the very same verse in the Psalm quoted by the apostles here

Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

 

 

[Truswell]

13 minutes ago, AFlameOfFire said:

 

The verse which "supposedly denies" Jesus (meaning Acts 2:36) is preceeded by the very same verse in the Psalm quoted by the apostles here

Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

 

 

I have lost the thread of the conversation. Sorry. I seem to remember we were talking about the use of capitals in the Old Testament.

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

46 minutes ago, Truswell said:

I have lost the thread of the conversation. Sorry. I seem to remember we were talking about the use of capitals in the Old Testament.

You did not like that something speaking of Jesus was made "lower" as far as letter size when it come to  the two words used for LORD and Lord.

As far as Jesus Christ goes, he was also made a little lower" than the angels, but his name is exalted above every other name

And these two verses I posted

Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Was to carry them past Jesus Christ's own confirmation concerning the psalm (as far as it pertains to him, but to show further agreement in the Psalm as to what was being done there. You often do not need to wrangle over a word or  one verse, or the size of letters, they can often be confirmed elsewhere.