The end time has different physics?

[dad2]

4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

He told them to go throughout all the cities of Israel preaching the gospel.They are not to flee out of Israel.

They will still be in Israel when Christ comes.

The folks seeing the abomination are to flee. Right away. Do not pass go. Do not collect 200.

[dad2]

4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Not according to Daniel and Jesus.

At the time of the great tribulation they are delivered the same time the dead are raised.No 3.5 years left.

 

And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book.

 

You say there is 3.5 years remaining after the dead are raised.🤣

Since you do not understand the verse I will try to shed some light on it a bit for you.

At a certain time there will be the great tribulation. His people are delivered in that time. Some protected, like the 144,000 and the 2 witnesses. Others will be delivered by death. Still others, at the end of that period when Jesus returns, will be raised up into resurrected bodies. Others will have already been delivered before that time starts in the Rapture!

 

Edited July 30, 2023 by dad2

[Diaste]

On 7/27/2023 at 2:18 PM, dad2 said:

Revelation 16:20

 

And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found

 

We already know that the 1000 year reign of Christ on earth has different realities and a different nature than this present time. People live about 1000 years again as before the flood, spirits dwell on earth with men, plants grow fast, and etc.

 

 One interesting question is whether that change in nature and laws starts before the 1000 years and in the last seven years sometime?

 

The verse above indicates it is already changed when the continents and islands all suddenly move. If that were to happen in this presnet day, I hear immense heat would result, that would probably not allow human life on earth.

Pretty sure sure the one who created atoms can manipulate matter in any way, seemingly impossible to mankind. The wisdom of man is foolishness to God.

Limiting God to man made wisdom...lol

God is beyond such trivial imaginations. 

Jesus violated 'physical laws' several times, demonstrating immense supernatural power.

Zech 14

"4On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half the mountain moving to the north and half to the south. 5You will flee by My mountain valley, for it will extend to Azal. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah."

I don't think those fleeing are waiting for the rocks to cool.

[Shilohsfoal]

6 hours ago, dad2 said:

It is a good thing to obey and flee as He tells us when we see that abomination set up.

All the wicked people will flee.

The saints will be gatherd to Christ at the same time the wicked in Judea are fleeing.

Zech 14

⁵ And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

 

I guess you believe it's the wicked that are with the Lord and the saints in Judea are fleeing.

[Shilohsfoal]

1 hour ago, Diaste said:

Pretty sure sure the one who created atoms can manipulate matter in any way, seemingly impossible to mankind. The wisdom of man is foolishness to God.

Limiting God to man made wisdom...lol

God is beyond such trivial imaginations. 

Jesus violated 'physical laws' several times, demonstrating immense supernatural power.

Zech 14

"4On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half the mountain moving to the north and half to the south. 5You will flee by My mountain valley, for it will extend to Azal. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah."

I don't think those fleeing are waiting for the rocks to cool.

The rocks from the Mt of olives along with about everything else will be falling from the sky on that day.Just a hot molten mess of huge hail stones.

Revelation 16:21

And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

 

Gives a whole new meaning to stoning a prostitute.

[Shilohsfoal]

6 hours ago, dad2 said:

Since you do not understand the verse I will try to shed some light on it a bit for you.

At a certain time there will be the great tribulation. His people are delivered in that time. Some protected, like the 144,000 and the 2 witnesses. Others will be delivered by death. Still others, at the end of that period when Jesus returns, will be raised up into resurrected bodies. Others will have already been delivered before that time starts in the Rapture!

 

Yes and we know that great tribulation that takes place at the time the abomination of desolation is placed in Jerusalem by the armed forces.

That is when there is a great earthquake in Jerusalem and the two witnesses ascend into heaven in the cloud from the abomination of desolation.

It takes place on the day of the Lord when the resurrection takes place.You claim the saints will flee so I'm assuming you believe the dead that are raised will flee as well.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

6 hours ago, dad2 said:

The folks seeing the abomination are to flee. Right away. Do not pass go. Do not collect 200.

If you saw a giant mushroom cloud ascending into heaven from Jerusalem,and you were close enough to see it, you would flee too without hesitation.Go to the nearest mountain and hide in a cave.

 

Luke 21

²⁵ And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

²⁶ Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

 

But of course you believe a statue causes all this.Something like the stay puff marshmallow man from ghost busters.

"The destructor has arrived".

 

 

 

Edited July 30, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[TrueFollowerOfChrist]

On 7/27/2023 at 2:18 PM, dad2 said:

Revelation 16:20

 

And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found

 

We already know that the 1000 year reign of Christ on earth has different realities and a different nature than this present time. People live about 1000 years again as before the flood, spirits dwell on earth with men, plants grow fast, and etc.

 

 One interesting question is whether that change in nature and laws starts before the 1000 years and in the last seven years sometime?

 

The verse above indicates it is already changed when the continents and islands all suddenly move. If that were to happen in this presnet day, I hear immense heat would result, that would probably not allow human life on earth.

Physics will not be changed until the Millennium. The supernatural acts, like the change of the earth, and the great hailstones, and other terrifying judgments in Revelation are miraculous acts of God, but not a change in physics. The laws will change in the millenium and definitely in the eternal state, because God gets to decide what those laws are.

[Shilohsfoal]

23 minutes ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said:

Physics will not be changed until the Millennium. The supernatural acts, like the change of the earth, and the great hailstones, and other terrifying judgments in Revelation are miraculous acts of God, but not a change in physics. The laws will change in the millenium and definitely in the eternal state, because God gets to decide what those laws are.

The great hail stones comes down from the cloud of the abomination of desolation .They are the material that ascended in the updraft.All the material that ascends in the cloud with the two witnesses.

Lake of fire.

Edited July 30, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[TrueFollowerOfChrist]

10 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The great hail stones comes down from the cloud of the abomination of desolation .They are the material that ascended in the updraft.All the material that ascends in the cloud with the two witnesses.

 

Where do you get that belief from? I've studied ever verse of Revelation and I don't see any support for a viewpoint like that. There is no "cloud" of abomination of desolation or updraft. Can you please tell me where you got such a view?