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41 minutes ago, dad2 said:

If you were alive. The problem is Jerusalem will never be nuked like that. Neither did God tell us to look for a nuke and then flee. He told us that when we see that abomination in the holy place then we are to flee immediately.

No. The idol set up marks the time it all starts. Then we have the countdown.

 

 

No, the Lord said that when we see the abomination of desolation. Then them which are  in Judea will flee as seen in zech 14 on the day of the Lord.

No one in North America.south America,China,Russia,or Europe flee.But them which are in Judea will flee.

Mathew 24

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

 

 

 

 

And yes,Jerusalem gets nuked.Its called the Samson option,Israel as well as all the cities of the nations that attack Israel are to be nuked.This takes place to three days after Jerusalem is taken by those nations that attack it and take control.of it.

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44 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

If they were good ,they would be gatherd to the Lord at his coming like Paul said.

If His coming was 3 1/2 years after the abomination is revealed as the bible says the people fleeing would not be dead yet or taken up to heaven.

44 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Instead the are fleeing when the Lord comes. They certainly don't belong to Christ or they would be with him.

They obey what Jesus said. Flee when it comes.

44 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 

Zech 14

And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

 

 

After the tribulation we return with Him. Back on earth, before that the saints on earth are not us. They are people who come to faith. They need to flee.


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42 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

No, the Lord said that when we see the abomination of desolation. Then them which are  in Judea will flee as seen in zech 14 on the day of the Lord.

Where in Zec 4?

42 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

No one in North America.south America,China,Russia,or Europe flee.But them which are in Judea will flee.

Says who? If believers in Israel need to head for the hills so will others people in the world need to take some measures to avoid being killed.

42 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

And yes,Jerusalem gets nuked.Its called the Samson option,Israel as well as all the cities of the nations that attack Israel are to be nuked.This takes place to three days after Jerusalem is taken by those nations that attack it and take control.of it.

Except that Jesus lands there. He judges nations there. We are with Him there. We rule kingdoms with Him. No idea why you imagine the place as some dead zone. Better not to make stuff up.


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41 minutes ago, dad2 said:

If His coming was 3 1/2 years after the abomination is revealed as the bible says the people fleeing would not be dead yet or taken up to heaven.

They obey what Jesus said. Flee when it comes.

After the tribulation we return with Him. Back on earth, before that the saints on earth are not us. They are people who come to faith. They need to flee.

The bible does not say the Lord comes 3 1/2 years after the abomination of desolation.

You are the one saying that. The bible actually shows the people in Judea fleeing the day the Lord comes and stands upon the mt of olives.

 

And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.


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38 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Where in Zec 4?

Says who? If believers in Israel need to head for the hills so will others people in the world need to take some measures to avoid being killed.

Except that Jesus lands there. He judges nations there. We are with Him there. We rule kingdoms with Him. No idea why you imagine the place as some dead zone. Better not to make stuff up.

Perhaps you should take a second and actually read what Jesus said.

 

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

 

Them which are in Judea will flee when they see the abomination of desolation.

Not the people in China,Canada,or Brazil.

 

Let them which be in Judea flee into the mountains.

 

I don't understand why you are so fearful.What are you afraid of?


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On 7/29/2023 at 9:39 AM, Montana Marv said:

The topography (directions) of the headwaters have changed from what we know of them now since the Flood.

Yes, they have, as well as quite a number of other geographical features.


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15 hours ago, dad2 said:

The thread is not about whether the nature will be the same.

No, not nature, PHYSICS. Read your own title: "different physics"! 

Physics are God's created LAWS of nature. Sure, the natural world will undergo changes in the end times, but it changes every day! There will be vast changes in nature to come; there have been vast changes in nature in the past. Anyone who lives in the American West may easily be able to find many of those vast changes in the crust of the earth.


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2 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Physics are God's created LAWS of nature.

This is true, but it is man's vanity that thinks that we know all of them and even more vanity to claim that we fully understand even those we do.

My way of seeing it.


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4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The bible does not say the Lord comes 3 1/2 years after the abomination of desolation.

You are the one saying that. The bible actually shows the people in Judea fleeing the day the Lord comes and stands upon the mt of olives.

Daniel 12:11
 
And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days
 
 
4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 

And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

That is when Jesus returns After the tribulation


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4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Perhaps you should take a second and actually read what Jesus said.

 

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

 

Them which are in Judea will flee when they see the abomination of desolation.

Not the people in China,Canada,or Brazil.

 

Let them which be in Judea flee into the mountains.

 

I don't understand why you are so fearful.What are you afraid of?

The warning is for believers in Israel at the time. With a little intelligence we can see that an evil world ruler hell bent on killing Jews and Christians will require some action from believers all over.

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