Any thoughts on this?

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

Two major problems with drinking booze in any amount... we are called to avoid the appearance of evil (1 Thessalonians 5:22) so drinking booze damages one's testimony causing some to not want to listen to what you say about the Lord.

Let's not forget being friends with the world were we do what they do, makes one an enemy of God (James 4:4)

Second is our body is supposed to be the Temple of the Holy Spirit and since it's a proven fact thru years of scientific research that booze is harmful to our body... the Holy Spirit could not be leading anyone to do things that are harmful to the body.

Romans 12:1,2
I declare to you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your body a living sacrifice, Holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service....and be not conformed to this world (see James 4:4): but be transformed by the renewing of your mind (understanding, vision), that you may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

1 Corinthians 6:19, 20
Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which you have of God, and you are not your own....for you are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

The Lord never instructs one to drink alcohol so, all things considered, drinking booze is sinful

a Christian really has no right to drink alcohol because they are supposed to have been bought with a price and belong to the Lord now.

But, hey... it's all about "once saved always saved" so drink up!

[Your closest friendnt]

7 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

Two major problems with drinking booze in any amount... we are called to avoid the appearance of evil (1 Thessalonians 5:22) so drinking booze damages one's testimony causing some to not want to listen to what you say about the Lord.

Let's not forget being friends with the world were we do what they do, makes one an enemy of God (James 4:4)

Second is our body is supposed to be the Temple of the Holy Spirit and since it's a proven fact thru years of scientific research that booze is harmful to our body... the Holy Spirit could not be leading anyone to do things that are harmful to the body.

Romans 12:1,2
I declare to you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your body a living sacrifice, Holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service....and be not conformed to this world (see James 4:4): but be transformed by the renewing of your mind (understanding, vision), that you may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

1 Corinthians 6:19, 20
Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which you have of God, and you are not your own....for you are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

The Lord never instructs one to drink alcohol so, all things considered, drinking booze is sinful

a Christian really has no right to drink alcohol because they are supposed to have been bought with a price and belong to the Lord now.

But, hey... it's all about "once saved always saved" so drink up!

Paul does not seem to give the same advice. 

 

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

9 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Paul does not seem to give the same advice.

You cannot prove Paul told anyone to drink fermented wine which is wine that contains alcohol.

You can speculate all you'd like, but nothing Paul says specifically proves He told Timothy to drink the booze.

But, as I understand it lots of folks search for ways to justify doing what they know deep down inside they should not be doing.  Lot's of that going around in these last days as we are living in the time of the falling away.

[Vine Abider]

11 hours ago, Stan Murff said:

But, hey... it's all about "once saved always saved" so drink up!

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

34 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

[AnOrangeCat]

23 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

It's quite the sticky wicket... Maybe it isn't the substance as much as the intent?  

This is an interesting question and one I've pondered a lot. Some street drugs work in the same general manner as certain psych meds. Some other harmful and addictive substances have a similar thing going. Cocaine used to be in soda and opium and its derivatives were and still are used in medicine. Where do we draw the line between which ones are okay and which ones aren't?

I'd say intent matters but with some catches. We know our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, which we should bear in mind. The potential for medicinal substances doing more harm than good needs to be weighed in.

[FJK]

23 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

It's quite the sticky wicket... Maybe it isn't the substance as much as the intent?  

This is a very valid point, sometimes it's the why of what we do that is the sin in many cases more than the what itself is since that is just an expression of the root cause of it.

As a man thinketh ........

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

34 minutes ago, AnOrangeCat said:

Where do we draw the line between which ones are okay and which ones aren't?

We're called to be like Jesus (Romans 8:29, Ephesians 5:1) and He didn't do dope, so this should solve the question.

Just because a doctor prescribes something does not mean it's any different than doing dope!

[FJK]

4 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

We're called to be like Jesus (Romans 8:29, Ephesians 5:1) and He didn't do dope, so this should solve the question.

Just because a doctor prescribes something does not mean it's any different than doing dope!

I hope you never have to have surgery.

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

Over the years I've heard so many stories of doctors not knowing what they are doing and medical science being not much more than experimentation so... I'll trust the Lord Jesus Christ for my physical, mental, and spiritual well being.

I've had numerous things try to come on my body over the years that most people would have dialed 911 over but I called the Lord instead and He delivered me!

Psalm 34:4
I sought the LORD, and he heard me, and delivered me from all my fears.

Turns out the devil can bring forth lying manifestations on people's bodies and if they accept it... they just bought it and it becomes permanent.

I don't get along with the devil at all so I reject his attacks and use the Sword of the Spirit (God's Word) as a mighty weapon to knock the devil back without fail because God's Word cannot fail.

James 4:7
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

The definition of resisting the devil is... submitting yourself to the Lord!