Marathoner Posted August 28, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 71 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,142 Content Per Day: 7.07 Reputation: 13,096 Days Won: 97 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Online Share Posted August 28, 2023 I can't find an example of praying to anyone other than the Lord in the scriptures. Like others have already pointed out, the Son of God gave us an example of prayer which is to our Father in heaven. That's sufficient. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boy Stan Murf Posted August 28, 2023 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,027 Content Per Day: 4.78 Reputation: 279 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) God's Word says that Jesus makes intersession for us (Hebrews 7:25), so maybe that's not good enough for some and they are looking for someone else to pray for them in case Jesus isn't enough Edited August 28, 2023 by Stan Murff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary8 Posted August 29, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 241 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 204 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/23/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) Yes, it is idolatry. God gave us one mediator we can talk to, who hears us, our Lord Jesus. I Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;.. Edited August 29, 2023 by Mary8 add a few words 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted August 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,398 Content Per Day: 12.14 Reputation: 3,269 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted August 29, 2023 35 minutes ago, Mary8 said: Yes, it is idolatry. God gave us one mediator we can talk to, who hears us, our Lord Jesus. I Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;.. Hi @Mary8 Yes, this is a very clear verse. Then when we look at chapters such as Romans 8 and Hebrews 7, it is very clear that it is the Lord Jesus Who is interceding for the believer (and on account of His finished work at the Cross). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted August 29, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,129 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,857 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 29, 2023 21 hours ago, Stan Murff said: God's Word says that Jesus makes intersession for us (Hebrews 7:25), so maybe that's not good enough for some and they are looking for someone else to pray for them in case Jesus isn't enough It is interesting that they think Jesus needs help or is busy when John and Paul tells us he's responsible for the creation of the universe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyB Posted August 29, 2023 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,628 Content Per Day: 1.16 Reputation: 304 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted August 29, 2023 A saint is any sanctified person, i.e., anyone who has accepted Christ as her/his Savior and has received the Holy Spirit, i.e., a Christian. It is a false construct to claim that there is a special class of Christians who are saints. 2 Thessalonians 2:13: "But we ought always to thank God for you, brothers and sisters loved by the Lord, because God chose you as firstfruits to be saved through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boy Stan Murf Posted August 29, 2023 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,027 Content Per Day: 4.78 Reputation: 279 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, JimmyB said: A saint is any sanctified person, i.e., anyone who has accepted Christ as her/his Savior and has received the Holy Spirit, i.e., a Christian. It is a false construct to claim that there is a special class of Christians who are saints. If you want to have a little fun, next time you talk to a catholic, tell them you are a saint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted August 29, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,129 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,857 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Stan Murff said: If you want to have a little fun, next time you talk to a catholic, tell them you are a saint! I don't have fun with people's beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boy Stan Murf Posted August 29, 2023 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,027 Content Per Day: 4.78 Reputation: 279 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted August 29, 2023 Yeah, we wouldn't want to have any humor about anything. It's sad that catholics don't follow the teachings of Jesus and His Apostles (the Doctrine of Christ) Based on what God's Word teaches, they don't go to heaven when they die... shouldn't we be warning them and showing them what the Lord says in His Word? Wouldn't LOVE do that? Or would LOVE leave them in their sin and just let them go to hell? What would LOVE do in this situation??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelInTraining93 Posted August 29, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 239 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/27/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/16/1993 Share Posted August 29, 2023 On 8/27/2023 at 3:27 PM, Tony17 said: I'm not catholic but I stumbled upon many articles regarding whether praying to Mary and other saints is an act of idolatry. Some say yes and some say no. Matthew 4:10 says "Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only." Doesn't this mean praying to saints is idolatry? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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