Repent, convert, refresh……

[Not me]

Acts 3:19 (NKJV)
“Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord,

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Repent, convert, refresh, being the path one must walk if one would have Christ formed in them.... 

First the repenting, which is not a singular repenting but a constant turning of the heart to God….. It is the acknowledging that one is lacking, that one themselves is the problem, it is a seeing that sinful humanity can only sin….. But even more, it is a functioning from the reality that one does not see, know, or understand, that one is totally useless as to what one is in one’s own opinions and imaging; for it is the desire to be freed from all this that is repentance….. For it being a turning away from whatever God has His finger on at the moment and falling by faith into the ever loving arms of His mercy and grace…..
 
Then the converting, which is the actual changing, the actual doing of the will of God, and the actual denying of own will, which is getting the victory over that which God’s finger is on….. Then the fruit of that victory, the increase of Christ, which is the fruit of righteousness here being put forth as the refreshing….. 

It is between the repenting and the converting that man has the struggles with, though it should not be so, for dead man have no struggles…. Because Jesus did die and the one that will believe into their death in Christ will sail through every repenting, through every converting and live in a constant state of refreshing…. A state of having the witness of the Spirit of God in themselves that one is walking in all the light one sees and therefore is pleasing to God…. 

For repent, convert, refresh is the path forward, and is to be the life of everyone that would be willing to be all His, holding back nothing of the life of self.….

Be blessed in being joined with Him in His death, and then the refreshing life of faith of being His, and in the tasting of the ever increasing reality of,  Not me 

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

Yeah but the calvinists claim if we do anything at all it's works and we are trying to earn our salvation

So when you say "sinful humanity can only sin" does this mean you are still living in the sinful things you were doing before you got saved and your life did not change after getting born again?

The New Testament says we can do all things THRU Christ that strengthens us... so is living in sin the only exception and He does not strengthen us to stop living in sin?

I'm not talking about honest mistakes like maybe forgetting something or dropping something as we are not perfect in the literal sense and doing these things are related to sin and darkness being in the world.

But doesn't the Lord strengthen us to quit doing things we know are sin such as lying, coveting, stealing, adultry, hating others (which is murder), sexual sins, etc, etc.

After getting born again we just can't help but to keep doing these things?

[Not me]

45 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

Yeah but the calvinists claim if we do anything at all it's works and we are trying to earn our salvation

So when you say "sinful humanity can only sin" does this mean you are still living in the sinful things you were doing before you got saved and your life did not change after getting born again?

The New Testament says we can do all things THRU Christ that strengthens us... so is living in sin the only exception and He does not strengthen us to stop living in sin?

I'm not talking about honest mistakes like maybe forgetting something or dropping something as we are not perfect in the literal sense and doing these things are related to sin and darkness being in the world.

But doesn't the Lord strengthen us to quit doing things we know are sin such as lying, coveting, stealing, adultry, hating others (which is murder), sexual sins, etc, etc.

After getting born again we just can't help but to keep doing these things?

Hello, and thank you for your input…

I hold true since scripture says; ‘he that has died is freed from sin’, to the degree that one embraces and sees, and enters into this mystery, will the fruit of this truth be experienced…

May we all enter into the experiencing of this truth….

A fellow believer, Not me 

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

Does that mean we can keep living in sin and be free from the punishment of sin which is separation from God?  (Romans 6:23)

Or, does it mean the Lord empowers us to actually quit living in sin?

[Not me]

6 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

Does that mean we can keep living in sin and be free from the punishment of sin which is separation from God?  (Romans 6:23)

Or, does it mean the Lord empowers us to actually quit living in sin?

It means exactly what it says;

’he that has died is freed from sin’

I believe the understanding of this truth, is the truth that sets one free from all sin….

May I, and all those that would be made free from sin, come to know, experience and live in and under this truth….

Be blessed in your relationship with our Lord…..

 

A fellow believer, Not me 

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

OK, so Christians can live in sin and there is no punishment for it... gotcha.

God's Word does not teach this.  If one lives in sin, they are no longer in right standing with God and are no longer free from sin according to Jesus:

John 8:34

Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

 

Edited August 28, 2023 by Stan Murff

[Not me]

Just now, Stan Murff said:

OK, so Christians can live in sin and there is no punishment for it... gotcha.

God's Word does not teach this.  If one lives in sin, they are no longer in right standing from God and are no longer free from sin according to Jesus:

John 8:34

Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

 

As your understanding of my OP is, may you be blessed…..

 

A fellow follower, Not me 

 

 

[TheBlade]

"that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting people’s sins against them [but canceling them]. And He has committed to us the message of reconciliation [that is, restoration to favor with God]."

OT those sacrifices were only good for a year. Yet some treat the blood of Christ might be good for a day until you repent again. They make it common no better the blood of bulls and sheep etc

"For if it were otherwise, would not these sacrifices have stopped being offered? For the worshipers, having once [for all time] been cleansed, would no longer have a consciousness of sin."

Yeah Israel they were good for a year but today were good for a day a week a month.

It would seem some still have a consciousness of sin. For some its not pointing to Christ what has been done but back to man. 

[Sower]

37 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

Does that mean we can keep living in sin and be free from the punishment of sin which is separation from God?  (Romans 6:23)

Or, does it mean the Lord empowers us to actually quit living in sin?

Your brush is too broad, Stan.
We all live every day missing that perfect mark of perfection, his standard, target, like you and I.
I personally would not want to call God a liar.

You said above;

living in sin ... define and use a fine point brush, the point specific category of sin you mean.
I thought any miss, no matter the size of the mark, target size, is a miss. A sin. No matter how many.

punishment of sin ... define,   a lesson,  a pruning?  a chastisement?

which is separation from God? ...  or do you actually mean God disowns his child for eternal punishment?
I'm sure you know all the verses in scripture concerning God's promises of our security in Him.
Those 'never' ones. Those eternally ones.
 

29 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

OK, so Christians can live in sin and there is no punishment for it... gotcha.

If I posted that above, and like so many other of your 'Christlike'  responses, I would believe I had missed God's mark. SIN.
If you are comfortable in believing you have no guilt before God, and that's just the way you reply, cool..

This may help to define that we all do not think alike concerning what constitutes sin before God.
Is speeding sin?  1 mph or 10. Have you faith in all that which you do? Taking every thought captive?

YES!! We can do all thing in Christ, submitting to Christ.    And there's the rub.       We have choice.

[Mr. M]

9 hours ago, Not me said:

For repent, convert, refresh is the path forward, and is to be the life of everyone that would be willing to be all His, holding back nothing of the life of self.….

Be blessed in being joined with Him in His death, and then the refreshing life of faith of being His, and in the tasting of the ever increasing reality of,  Not me 

Freedom from sinning is found in the suffering way.

1 Peter 4:1 Therefore, since Christ suffered for us in the flesh,

arm yourselves also with the same mind, for he who has

suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin, 

2 that he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh

for the lusts of men, but for the will of God.

It is in the nearness of God in the face of trials that forms

the bond of righteousness. Anything less is superficial.