Believers' Accountability and the Judgement Seat of Christ

[Vine Abider]

28 minutes ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said:

I haven't read this thread, so I don't know if I'm repeating whats already been said. 

 

We know that for believers, The judgement on sin occurred at the cross, so we need never have to worry about being judged for it again. So what is the judgement seat of Christ?? Simple, it is a judgement on our actions in this life after having received salvation. This is a judgement that will determine our status and rewards in Heaven. Even though saved, our actions still have consequences. The Bema seat will determine if our life is one of wood, hay, and straw, or one of Gold, Silver, and precious stones as 1 Corinthians 3 says. If we have lived sinfully, we will experience great loss at the Bema seat. This doesn't mean we will have taken away the things we earned. It means we will fail to earn the things we could have in obedience. So those who think we have a free pass to sin after being saved are sadly mistaken. We can still lose eternal rewards with our sinful lifestyles. 

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[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said:

I haven't read this thread, so I don't know if I'm repeating whats already been said. 

 

We know that for believers, The judgement on sin occurred at the cross, so we need never have to worry about being judged for it again. So what is the judgement seat of Christ?? Simple, it is a judgement on our actions in this life after having received salvation. This is a judgement that will determine our status and rewards in Heaven. Even though saved, our actions still have consequences. The Bema seat will determine if our life is one of wood, hay, and straw, or one of Gold, Silver, and precious stones as 1 Corinthians 3 says. If we have lived sinfully, we will experience great loss at the Bema seat. This doesn't mean we will have taken away the things we earned. It means we will fail to earn the things we could have in obedience. So those who think we have a free pass to sin after being saved are sadly mistaken. We can still lose eternal rewards with our sinful lifestyles. 

You create many questions and give no answers. 

No scripture, and no interpretation of scripture for discussion. 

[Vine Abider]

2 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

You create many questions and give no answers. 

No scripture, and no interpretation of scripture for discussion. 

I think he was just giving his summary, his understanding of the Bema Seat.

[Your closest friendnt]

4 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

I think he was just giving his summary, his understanding of the Bema Seat.

I am not judging, I never mean to judge..

[FreeGrace]

20 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

You create many questions and give no answers. 

No scripture, and no interpretation of scripture for discussion. 

Could you ask these "many questions" that you accuse TFC of creating?  I'm sure he or I would be happy to answer, among others.

The issue of reward is very clear in Scripture.  

[Your closest friendnt]

54 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

Could you ask these "many questions" that you accuse TFC of creating?  I'm sure he or I would be happy to answer, among others.

The issue of reward is very clear in Scripture.  

Hi Free Grace, in Revelation chapter 2,3 we have Jesus coming to his churches, particularly these were not any churches but the ones who had a golden Lamb and he was walking amongs them. 

The point is that this happened while his people were still alive and kicking. 

He also promised to them that he will come to them at an unknown time to see how they follow up on His commandments and he told them how he will reward them. 

[TrueFollowerOfChrist]

1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

You create many questions and give no answers. 

No scripture, and no interpretation of scripture for discussion. 

If you can be more specific, I'll do my best. But to give many scripture quotes with each point I made would take me hours, which I don't have right now. But if there is something you would like me to clarify, please let me know and I'll get to it when I'm able. I did mention 1 Corinthians 3, which shows the believers judgement, his works and weather they will be purified or burned up. It specifically says that person will still be saved, even if they receive no rewards. This is telling, because it shows that a believer who was NOT living for God and had NO eternal rewards was STILL saved. The best book I have read on eternal security is called Eternal Security by the late Charles Stanley. 

[Your closest friendnt]

2 hours ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said:

If you can be more specific, I'll do my best. But to give many scripture quotes with each point I made would take me hours, which I don't have right now. But if there is something you would like me to clarify, please let me know and I'll get to it when I'm able. I did mention 1 Corinthians 3, which shows the believers judgement, his works and weather they will be purified or burned up. It specifically says that person will still be saved, even if they receive no rewards. This is telling, because it shows that a believer who was NOT living for God and had NO eternal rewards was STILL saved. The best book I have read on eternal security is called Eternal Security by the late Charles Stanley. 

Hi @TrueFollowerOfChrist,

The question are in my answer, are address in my posting, base on scripture. 

first of all you have to acknowledge that Paul is not your Jesus Christ, neither is Hebrews or James. 

Paul said I have been subject to correction many times that's how I grew in the Lord. And he goes on to tell how the Lord had to take him away from anyone for a number of years to be able to reveal to him the Gospel of Grace which is telling that Paul before that he was preaching another version of the Gospel...the samething happened to Peter and to all the other ones. Some of them followed and some of them continued in the all version and and some came up with other versions of the Gospel. 

Paul said I met some believers who were baptising themselves in place for their ancestors. He had a soft spot for his country people and they had a soft part for their ancestors "like they knew about them". 

I had to say that so I am not misunderstood for my opening statements.

The theme of the Post is that every knee shall bow down before the Lord of Lords and the King of Kings and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

This is a day that has not happened for us yet but will happen after the day our last day hear on earth. 

Some Scripture: every one is appointed to die and after that the Judgement.  

In the New will never happen what happened to Elijah and Moses and Enoch. 

That was  before Jesus Christ, the Time before Jesus Christ was appointed to be the Judge of all well before the Cross and the resurrection...

Way before the fullfilment of every knee shall bow down before the Lord of Lords. Which is telling that Jesus will judge them all and no one can Judge Him. He is above all.

It is appointed to man to die and after that the Judgement. 

Jesus said the sane thing to Peter and to his disciples when they asked to take them together with him in the Heavens.  Jesus told him not now that time will came but you have to die first.

That is telling us that when everyone bows down before the Throne of Jesus Christ in his Heavenly Throne is out of the earthly body after he dies.

No one ever find in this position to bow down before the Lord before his throne in the Heavens while still in his body...because that time it will be decided the fate of everyone's eternity. And that has to be after each one's death. Everyone in his time, in the time after his own death. 

The Scriptures in Revelation tell us that on that day our works follows us...that they do not play a part to persuade Jesus one way or another. 

Someone with a load of good works and charity cannot put them before him to recommend himself to Jesus to make Jesus love him that he is a good man and good men deserve to go to Heaven. 

No everyone that day stands before Jesus with their works following them.

Jesus will first decide their eternal faith on whether they have believed in him for the forgiveness for their sins their faith will be registered in their hearts...and Jesus said the one who has believe in me is not Judge because he is in the Life...there is not a condemnation document against them and if there is one and there should be one but it has been nail to the Cross or Jesus will tear it up

For many reasons...any way  no matter how a believer bows down before Jesus Christ after his death regarding the condition of his own righteousness it does not matter because Jesus will welcome him in his name because of his faith in him because he has him the Eternal Life...

Jesus will welcome us because we are in him. In his righteousness and in his Life.

There is no Judgement for the believers at that time. 

The judgement is for those who have refused to believe in him in full conscience knowing what they are doing.

Those who had been put in the valley of decision and decided not to believe and died in their unbelief.  They stand condemned they will know that they do not have to wait for Jesus to tell them that...Jesus has to make everything official and put down their names in the appropriate book and thus every one will know where they are and where they can be found.

Recognition of everyone's contribution to the ministry of Jesus it will take place maybe at that time or later before the other believers who are in Heaven at the right time and their place in Heaven will be decided at that time...somehow because there is etiquette and order in Heaven and every one has his proper place. There is also order for those who are in the place of the dead. 

That was the case all the time but  before Jesus Christ that was decided by Hades the God of the dead...that time he was the one who Judge the people everyone with the exception of Abraham. 

But after the Cross Jesus begins to Judge everyone in the word from the beginning first according to their faith in him because he preach the Gospel to every one those three days before his resurrection according to his own testimony. Jesus has the Keys of Death and Hades...the authority they had before the Cross it has been given to Jesus Christ. 

Edited September 4, 2023 by Your closest friendnt

[Marilyn C]

13 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

Thanks Marilyn! Good words. 

You have listed out some of the potential rewards. What do you think happens if none of a believer's works survive the judging fire?

`If anyone`s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved as through fire.` (1 Cor. 3: 15)

The believer`s whose motives for doing God`s work was for their own self- glorification, then those works will be burned up, however the believer themselves will be saved for that is based on Christ`s sacrifice. 

They will suffer loss and not have anything to give back to the Lord for what He would have done through them. They took the glory instead of giving it to the Lord.

[Marilyn C]

Just now, Marilyn C said:

`If anyone`s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved as through fire.` (1 Cor. 3: 15)

The believers whose motives for doing God`s work was for their own self- glorification, then those works will be burned up, however the believer themselves will be saved for that is based on Christ`s sacrifice. 

They will suffer loss and not have anything to give back to the Lord for what He would have done through them. They took the glory instead of giving it to the Lord.