Believers' Accountability and the Judgement Seat of Christ

[Vine Abider]

3 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

Do you think this is the standard of judgement Christ will use at the Bema Seat judgement?  That is, according to how we have handled others?

Asked and answered.

Do you think that is the only standard He will use (how we've handled others), or will He also judge regarding what someone built with (wood, hay, straw/gold, silver, precious stones)?

[Vine Abider]

8 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

line upon line, here a little, there a little...

7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

This passage, from verse 1 through 10, talks about quite a bit about our relationship with God (and the Father and the Son) and mentions others ("fellowship with one another") just once.  How do you see that it is saying to confess to one another here?

[Mr. M]

3 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

Do you think that is the only standard He will use (how we've handled others), or will He also judge regarding what someone built with (wood, hay, straw/gold, silver, precious stones)?

I have to wonder what that verse means to you.

What are you building?

Colossians 2:

16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink,

or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon,

or of the sabbath days:

17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body of Christ.

Faithfulness to the Will of God is to Body of Christ.

[Mr. M]

1 minute ago, Vine Abider said:

How do you see that it is saying to confess to one another here?

I see it defined by the words "in Christ".

[Vine Abider]

32 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

I have to wonder what that verse means to you.

What are you building?

Good question!  I see that there is a grand building work going on in the universe.  Christ said He will build His church.  Paul says in Ephesians 2:22 that we are being built together as a habitation of God in Spirit.  All God's people from the OT to the NT are looking for a city, whose builder and maker is God.  Paul, in 1 Cor 3 said He laid the foundation (Christ), and that others are building on it.  Peter says in 1 Pet 2:5 that we are living stones, being built together as a spiritual house.

And we are called to participate in this building.  There are works to be done.  We can help build with things that will last (gold, silver, stones). . . or not (wood, hay, stubble).

To build properly, we need to be looking constantly to the Architect & Builder for His fresh direction, and walking in the things He gives us to do.  And we need to build in love.

So in that respect, how we are treating others is a big part of how we are building . . . Thanks for asking, as it caused me to think through this more!

[FreeGrace]

3 hours ago, NConly said:

Let me ask this; once a person is saved if they break fellowship with God the Father they should repent of each sin after being saved because each sin causes a break of fellowship ?

Fellowship is broken when a person sins.  So believers need to keep "short accounts", by confession as soon as they are aware of them.

1 John 1:9 is an on-going verse.  Notice the "if".  iow, if we confess our sins, God is faithful and will forgive us and cleans us of all unrighteousness.  This restores fellowship.

Believers who want their prayers heard need to realize the importance of confession.

Psa 66:18 -  If I had regarded sin in my heart, the Lord would not have listened;

[Your closest friendnt]

8 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

Fellowship is broken when a person sins.  So believers need to keep "short accounts", by confession as soon as they are aware of them.

1 John 1:9 is an on-going verse.  Notice the "if".  iow, if we confess our sins, God is faithful and will forgive us and cleans us of all unrighteousness.  This restores fellowship.

Believers who want their prayers heard need to realize the importance of confession.

Psa 66:18 -  If I had regarded sin in my heart, the Lord would not have listened;

This is the kind of quick talking that causes fear to people and is not straight forward...there different kinds of sins and there sins where the fellowship is not broken but they become a catalyst to increase the fellowship of the Holy Spirit. 

Where is the greater need there the Holy Spirit is very active....the sick have need of the doctor and the Holy Spirit does not abandon anyone at the time of their greates need.

This is the new covenant (in the Old one things were just the way you described it) and the people were not under the eternal fountain of the blood of the Slain Lamb of God who is also their Lord.

Edited September 9, 2023 by Your closest friendnt

[FreeGrace]

17 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

This is the kind of quick talking that causes fear to people and is not straight forward

This is straight from the Bible.  And should cause joy for knowing HOW to restore fellowship when sin occurs.

17 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

...there different kinds of sins and there sins where the fellowship is not broken but they become a catalyst to increase the fellowship of the Holy Spirit.

Where does the Bible say this?  The kind of sin is irrelevant.  Or Psa 66:18 would have made that point as well.  It just says that regarding sin in the heart causes God to NOT LISTEN to your prayers.  And NO sin is a "catalyst" to increase fellowship of the Spirit.  That is just kidding yourself.  ALL sin results in loss of fellowship because God will not fellowship with any sin.

That is why when Jesus was bearing our sins on the cross, the Father and Spirit turned their backs on Jesus and forsook Him.  

17 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Where is the greater need there the Holy Spirit is very active....the sick have need of the doctor and the Holy Spirit does not abandon anyone at the time of their greates need.

What are you saying here?  I cannot tell.  Rephrasing might help.

17 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

This is the new covenant (in the Old one things were just the way you described it) and the people were not under the eternal fountain of the blood of the Slain Lamb of God who is also their Lord.

?

Are you disagreeing with 1 John 1:9, or Eph 4:30 or 1 Thess 5:19?

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

10 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the one God has sends after you hear the news that he died on the Cross. The Slain Lamb of God who shed the blood of the Atonement for the forgiveness of our sins? If someone believes that, that very moment his sins are forgiven and will not be held against him at the time of his death

Romans 3:25
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God

Only sins up to the time we repent and get born again... going forward IF we sin we must confess and forsake our sin to obtain mercy (Proverbs 28:13, 1 John 1:9)

We know this is true because of Galatians 6:7,8

Galatians 6:7,8
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Romans 8:13
if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

Our future sins are not automatically forgiven... this is why many claiming to be Christians are living sinful lifestyles because most churches preach this error.

Sure the Blood of Jesus has the power to wash away future sins but it's not applicable to the person who is still living in sin.

Once must confess and forsake their sin and quit doing the things they know are sinful and the things God's Word says is sinful to be forgiven. 

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

6 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

For instance, they would say the unprofitable servant (Matt 25), who is thrown into outer darkness and experiences extreme anguish ("weeping & gnashing of teeth") remains in that state for a full 1,000 years during the kingdom period

That's what the catholics call purgatory... it's no scriptural in the least.