The Problem With Evolution- Part 1, Ape to Man Ridiculousness

[RV_Wizard]

8 hours ago, BeyondET said:

Yom doesn't just mean a 24 hour period.

When used as a numbered day or in conjunction with evening and morning, It means a single day 100% of the time.  Genesis uses both to make it perfectly clear it references one singular day.  When used in plural, as in the days of Noah, it can mean an undescribed amount of time.  However, such is not the case in Genesis.

The days may not have been 24 hours long.  The earth is slowing.  They could have been 23.9 hours.

[BeyondET]

3 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

When used as a numbered day or in conjunction with evening and morning, It means a single day 100% of the time.  Genesis uses both to make it perfectly clear it references one singular day.  When used in plural, as in the days of Noah, it can mean an undescribed amount of time.  However, such is not the case in Genesis.

The days may not have been 24 hours long.  The earth is slowing.  They could have been 23.9 hours.

A 24 hour day includes midday and midnight. On top of that earth wasn't even formed yet in the beginning.

Edited December 27, 2023 by BeyondET

[RV_Wizard]

10 hours ago, BeyondET said:

A 24 hour day includes midday and midnight. On top of that earth wasn't even formed yet in the beginning.

Midday and midnight are neither mentioned nor disclaimed.  The measurement is the evening and the morning, which happened exactly as it does today; one rotation of the planet with a relatively fixed point of light.

[BeyondET]

7 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

Midday and midnight are neither mentioned nor disclaimed.  The measurement is the evening and the morning, which happened exactly as it does today; one rotation of the planet with a relatively fixed point of light.

But you want to act like they are included by assuming a day included those periods just like today and you can't go by the finished product earth which wasn't even formed and rotating nor a fixed sun in the beginning 

Edited December 28, 2023 by BeyondET

[RV_Wizard]

5 minutes ago, BeyondET said:

But you want to act like they are included by assuming a day included those periods just like today and you can't go by the finished product earth which wasn't even formed and rotating nor a fixed sun in the beginning 

Please explain to me how you can have an evening and morning, then another evening and morning without having either mid-day or midnight.  As you may recall, light was created on day one so all that was required was that the earth rotate once.  It didn't take God millions of years to create the heavens and the earth.  It took six days.

[BeyondET]

8 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

Please explain to me how you can have an evening and morning, then another evening and morning without having either mid-day or midnight.  As you may recall, light was created on day one so all that was required was that the earth rotate once.  It didn't take God millions of years to create the heavens and the earth.  It took six days.

The days were not like the ones on earth. You've got to drop your understanding of time by using a mechanical clock. When Genesis was written the evening and morning was impossible to know when there is light but nothing to measure time with. I have no doubt they understood what that meant a unknown period of time.

[RV_Wizard]

9 hours ago, BeyondET said:

The days were not like the ones on earth.You've got to drop your understanding of time by using a mechanical clock. When Genesis was written the evening and morning was impossible to know when there is light but nothing to measure time with. I have no doubt they understood what that meant a unknown period of time.

The days were described in relation to the earth; earth's evening and morning.  It is confirmed in Exodus 20:11.

Moses was very much aware of what constituted a day.  The earlier people understood seasons, and knew what a year is.  They didn't have a modern calendar, but they understood a cycle of the moon as months and seasons as years.

I don't think you'll find a single Hebrew scholar who would agree that Genesis 1 has an unknown period of time.  Also, regardless of how long the days were, the Bible describes the special creation of all living things.  Evolution is 100% in contrast with the Bible.

[Eman_3]

On 12/27/2023 at 6:28 AM, RV_Wizard said:

The days may not have been 24 hours long.  The earth is slowing.  They could have been 23.9 hours.

The Moon has the greatest influence on tides dragging the ocean's water around with it. This water flowing over the ocean floor is a drag, is slowing Earth's rotation and extending the day by a little under 2 milliseconds every 100 years.

 

And because the Earth-Moon system can be considered a dual system, the laws of angular momentum dictate that if the Earth slows it's rotation, the Moon moves away from the Earth.

[BeyondET]

17 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

The days were described in relation to the earth; earth's evening and morning.  It is confirmed in Exodus 20:11.

Moses was very much aware of what constituted a day.  The earlier people understood seasons, and knew what a year is.  They didn't have a modern calendar, but they understood a cycle of the moon as months and seasons as years.

I don't think you'll find a single Hebrew scholar who would agree that Genesis 1 has an unknown period of time.  Also, regardless of how long the days were, the Bible describes the special creation of all living things.  Evolution is 100% in contrast with the Bible.

Moses wasn't aware of the modern scientific clock of 24 hours a day.

They certainly didnt look at days as such, and the evening and morning Light was the hardest to figure out it was impossible for the People who were task with keeping time.

Edited December 29, 2023 by BeyondET

[RV_Wizard]

6 hours ago, BeyondET said:

Moses wasn't aware of the modern scientific clock of 24 hours a day.

Moses was highly educated and knew exactly what a day was.  His adopted mother was the daughter of Pharaoh, so he would have received the best education on the planet at that time.   They told time with the position of the sun.  They didn't have modern calendars or Timex watches, but they knew dawn, dusk, midday, evening etc.