Word of Faith Theology and the New Apostolic Reformation

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

3 hours ago, SavedOnebyGrace said:

The light turned on for us when watching "The John Ankerberg Show"

Unfortunately, John Ankerberg advocates some sketchy doctrine himself
 

 

3 hours ago, Mr. M said:

one night the Holy Spirit reminded me of my Catholic Confirmation at age 12

Did the Lord happen to mention catholicism was false doctrine and not biblical?




 

[Mr. M]

20 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

Unfortunately, John Ankerberg advocates some sketchy doctrine himself
 

 

Did the Lord happen to mention catholicism was false doctrine and not biblical?




 

I am not a practicing RC. Confirmation, however if you know anything about it, is not about being Catholic. We were taught that we were old enough to make a decision to commit our life to Christ. I was all in! Then you learn about the vows of priesthood and I was out! You would do well to get over yourself and the snarky comments. For the record, I have received nothing from your posts and I will not be bothering with your need for paragraphs either as I am pecking away on my cell phone. Try offering something edifying for a change. Your condescension is quite humorous though. "Don't be high minded, but fearful, for you too can be cut off." The Lord sees the heart, you might want to lose the holier than thou attitude. No one here needs your approval. Now I am just bored. Say good night Stan. Good night, Stan.

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

Jesus calls it.... getting born again.

It's good to go with what the Lord says because... HE is holier than thou.

[Mr. M]

Just now, Stan Murff said:

Jesus calls it.... getting born again.

It's good to go with what the Lord says because... HE is holier than thou.

Thanks for that revelation. Under the Grace of the Holy Spirit, I have even found it in my heart to love a Catholic or two. What religion was the Good Samaritan? Again, you aren't teaching anything. My Bible has the Gospel of John. Also, 1 Peter 1:22 & 23. Check that out!

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

It's always best to go by what the Lord teaches in His Word... and ignore anything catholic for obvious reasons.

It's a stumbling block to others to mention or speak favorably about false religions or to quote any of their saying even if it happens to be something that's OK.

Those young in the Lord may see this as an endorsement of that religious group and could easily cause them to fall in to the snare of the devil and go join up with the heretics!  I know you wouldn't want to cause anybody to stumble...

[Mr. M]

4 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

It's always best to go by what the Lord teaches in His Word... and ignore anything catholic for obvious reasons.

It's a stumbling block to others to mention or speak favorably about false religions or to quote any of their saying even if it happens to be something that's OK.

Those young in the Lord may see this as an endorsement of that religious group and could easily cause them to fall in to the snare of the devil and go join up with the heretics!  I know you wouldn't want to cause anybody to stumble...

Sure. I am not endorsing anything. Nor will I apologize to anyone because I grew up Catholic and went to Catholic school from K-8. I was simply sharing past experiences as a testimony to the Lord's faithfulness. From what I understand, confirmation is not even handled the same way any more. I don't regret where I started from, all that matters is where I am headed. Paul began under the strictest sect of the Pharisees, and what did he say and do?

Philippians 3:12-16 Not that I have already attained, or am already perfected; but I press on, that I may lay hold of that for which Christ Jesus has also laid hold of me. Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead, I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. Therefore let us, as many as are mature, have this mind; and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal even this to you. Nevertheless, to the degree that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us be of the same mind.

"Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life." Rev. 2:10b

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

12 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

From what I understand, confirmation is not even handled the same way any more

So where is "confirmation" spoken of in the New Testament?

Shouldn't we stick to what the Doctrine of Christ teaches as laid out in the New Testament rather than referring to things that aren't not even biblical such as "confirmation"?

Maybe someday you'll understand that babes in Christ read stuff that those they think are knowledgeable in the Word and can easily be led astray when they see some false religion spoke of favorably.  I know you wouldn't want anyone to stumble on your account right?

 

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Paul began under the strictest sect of the Pharisees, and what did he say and do?

That's irrelevant because as you know we are called to be conformed to the image of Jesus Christ, not Paul (Romans 8:29, Ephesians 5:1)



 

Edited September 14, 2023 by Stan Murff

[Mr. M]

7 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

Maybe someday you'll understand that babes in Christ read stuff that those they think are knowledgeable in the Word and can easily be led astray when they see some false religion spoke of favorably.  I know you wouldn't want anyone to stumble on your account right?

Maybe you could understand that I was not teaching or endorsing the doctrine of any religion. Even a babe in Christ can easily see that I was merely reflecting on my past experiences from age 12. What were you up to at that age? When my children reached that age, they accepted Christ as their Savior after extensive Bible study with me, without any religious affiliation, just Doctrine of Christ as you say. Your concerns are misguided. 

12 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

That's irrelevant because as you know we are called to be conformed to the image of Jesus Christ, not Paul (Romans 8:29, Ephesians 5:1)

Interesting that you would say that Paul's testimony is irrelevant, even as you cite verses from his letters. No one said anything about conforming to the image of Paul. That is only the imagination of your mind and a desire to be contrary. He did say this though...

1 Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things,

and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

7 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

Maybe you could understand that I was not teaching or endorsing the doctrine of any religion.

But you mentioned it in a favorable light... this can cause some to stumble


 

7 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

Interesting that you would say that Paul's testimony is irrelevant

I'm pointing out that compared to being called to conform to the image of Jesus... EVERYONE'S testimony is irrelevant.

You were pointing me to consider what Paul said and did... I'm saying no thank you, I'll pay attention to what Jesus said and did

And the stuff Paul wrote... he didn't dream that stuff up.  It was the Lord that directed him what to write!

 

7 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

That is only the imagination of your mind and a desire to be contrary

You sound paranoid!

If someone says something you don't agree with... just move on! SMH

On a discussion board like this, people are simply exchanging thoughts, ideas and opinions... no one is saying you are required to agree with what they said.

 

Edited September 14, 2023 by Stan Murff

[Mr. M]

6 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

But you mentioned it in a favorable light... this can cause some to stumble

In your opinion

 

7 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

I'm pointing out that compared to being called to conform to the image of Jesus... EVERYONE'S testimony is irrelevant.

No one's testimony is irrelevant.

Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 

Mine may seem irrelevant to you, but it is favorable to me.

10 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

You sound paranoid!

No, just bored with your desperate need to be right.

11 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

If someone says something you don't agree with... just move on!

I said goodnight four posts ago, but you couldn't let it go. So concerned for the babes in Christ. Who sounds paranoid to them?

12 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

On a discussion board like this, people are simply exchanging thoughts, ideas and opinions... no one is saying you are required to agree with what they said.

Great. Then you are over it then. Moving on.