The third temple at Jerusalem and then yet another, Ezekiel's temple!

[Neighbor]

Hi all, I am posting Just a couple of links to one resource on the of temples to come  to open up conversation  in relationship to Israel having declared war on ISIS/Hamas and the temples to come. How far into the time of the signs might the world be?

https://byfaith.org/2022/07/24/a-third-temple-in-jerusalem-will-be-built/

https://byfaith.org/2023/07/17/ezekiels-temple-the-fourth-temple-in-jerusalem-israel/

 I am inviting  your  insights bible references  and news references.

[Keras]

The prophetic Scriptures clearly predict that the Third Temple will be built and the sacrifices reinstated, in the final years leading up to the Return of the Messiah. It is clear, too, that there will be more than just the Jewish people living in the Land of Greater Israel. All the Israelites from all 12 tribes of Israel, plus those grafted in, will migrate to New Israel soon after the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, the terrible Day of fire and storms, that will clear and cleanse most of the Middle East.

The place of the new Temple, will be to the North of the existing Dome of the Rock, because this is in the direct line of the now sealed Eastern gate. The Bible, the Torah, and Josephus, all agree that the Temple was in that location.

 

The Jewish sage, Moses Maimonides, known as Rambam, declared that the Temple will be rebuilt and the exiles from around the world gathered back into the Promised Land.

The Messiah will appear and re-establish the glory of King David.

In the Talmud Yerushalmi, Rabbi Acha says; The Beit Hamikdash [Holy Temple] will be built first, before the advent of the Kingdom of David.

The Pnei Moshe states; The Land will be settled first, then the people will become prosperous, after that they will build the Temple and finally, the Messiah will come.

In the Mar’eh Punim  the Gaon Moshe Margolis wrote that when Jacob predicted the future of Judah, he foretold that the Temple would be rebuilt first, then the Messiah would come. But the Jews are not prophesied to build the new Temple.

 

The whole scenario of the end times, has a logical sequence to it. Now in the latter days,, we can see how things are happening that will see a confederation of Islamic states and entities that will be motivated to get rid of the ‘ cancer ‘ in their midst, that is the State of Israel. The moment of their attack, using nuke missiles, is the moment that God will intervene. This great Day of the Lord, will take the form of a natural event: a Coronal Mass Ejection, a massive sunstrike of cosmic particles, causing intense heat and electrical storms. The attacking armies will be destroyed by their own weaponry, as they all explode before firing. This literally fulfils the prayer in Psalms 83:13-18

Many prophesies speak of the regeneration of the Land of Greater Israel, “in a very short while”, Isaiah 29:17, after this great clearance and cleansing of the entire area.

 Christian Israelites- “His people, who love the Lord and follow in His ways”  will then gather “on the mountains of Samaria”.  Amos 3:9b    This is described in Ezekiel 20:34-38, Psalms 107

Over 40 prophesies describe how God’s holy people, every faithful Christian, will live in peace and security in their own Land. At last, they will be as God originally intended, “a light to the nations”, they will “exemplify My Holiness for all to see”.  Ezekiel 39:27-29  [The attack by Gog/ Magog will come during this period]

WE  will build the Third Temple, Zechariah 6:15, and “the splendour of this latter House will surpass that of the former”. Haggai 2:9  Zechariah 8:9-13 has wonderful promises of restoration and redemption; Courage! Do not lose heart!

                                                                                     Ref: logostelos.info

Edited October 11, 2023 by Keras

[AdHoc]

On 10/10/2023 at 12:18 PM, Neighbor said:

Hi all, I am posting Just a couple of links to one resource on the of temples to come  to open up conversation  in relationship to Israel having declared war on ISIS/Hamas and the temples to come. How far into the time of the signs might the world be?

https://byfaith.org/2022/07/24/a-third-temple-in-jerusalem-will-be-built/

https://byfaith.org/2023/07/17/ezekiels-temple-the-fourth-temple-in-jerusalem-israel/

 I am inviting  your  insights bible references  and news references.

Probably one of the most confusing things to a contemporary Christian is the Covenants made with Israel. Two prevailing schools of thought exist:
1. Israel has broken the Covenant and God is finished with them
2. The New Covenant of Jeremiah 31:31-33 is made with the Church

Neither are correct.
1. A Covenant is made to regulate things when a party fails. It only comes into effect when one party breaks it.
2. The New Covenant is a Covenant of Law that replaces the existing Covenant of Sinai. The first Covenant of Law, made at Sinai, is written on stone tablets. the New Covenant will be written on the hearts of Israel. Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 2 make it clear that the New Covenant is made with the House of Judah and the house of Israel WHEN they are re-united as one Nation under David

What is patently obvious is that neither the Covenant made with Abraham, nor that made with Moses, have a single clause that requires Israel to believe in their Messiah. The Covenant made with Abraham requires that every Israelite male must be circumcised on the eighth day after birth, and that of Sinai, made with Moses as mediator, requires that all Israel must keep the 613 laws that were given by God. Israel dominate the history of mankind and were, as a military power, invincible, as long as they obeyed the 613 laws. But they did not keep this Law and were subject to penalties. These penalties are summarized in Leviticus Chapter 26 and Deuteronomy Chapter 28. The penalties end with Israel ejected from their Land and scattered throughout all nations. 

These penalties were applied to Israel and she was taken captive and scattered abroad. Deuteronomy 30:1 assumes, or takes fro granted, that Israel land in dispersion in other lands. The next four verses (2-5) set forth the WAY to National Recovery. It says that If Israel returns to what Moses was preaching THAT DAY, God would lift their captivity and restore them to their Land under God's blessings. That is, Israel where ejected from their Land as per Covenant, and Israel will be restored to their Land AS PER COVENANT.

But God is not naive. He knew that Israel, like a snowball heading downhill, gathers negative momentum, and heads forever downward. As a Nation they would NEVER turn back to the Laws. rather, they would break them even more. But God has a policy in His mercy. If the party dealing with God find a REMNANT who will fulfill God's requirements, God will accept them as a REPRESENTATIVE REMNANT - Representative of the whole Nation. God proposed this system for Sodom, where 50 righteous men would have saved the city. He proposed it at Elijah's time when Israel had sunken into idolatry, and predicts that at the Coming of the Son of man, He would bring a remnant who would keep the LAW, as per Deuteronomy 30:1-5.

Now, another requirement to keep the Law is that Israel go down to Jerusalem and to "that place where God chooses to put His name" with their tithes for their feasts (Deut.12:3-21, 14:23-24). This place was the Temple. The Law CANNOT be fulfilled without a Temple at Jerusalem. Thus, after some paragraphs of background we come to the Temple. The Beast will "strengthen" (lit. Heb.) "THE Covenant" with Israel (Dan.9:27). WHICH COVENANT??? The rest of the verse gives the answer. It is THE Covenant that has the DAILY OBLATION - for that is how he breaks it again. There is only one Covenant in the world and in history, that has the "daily oblation" - the Law of Moses and the Covenant of Sinai.

1. FOR ISRAEL TO KEEP THE LAW AND BE RESTORED A TEMPLE MUST BE STANDING

2. FOR THE BEAST TO COME THERE MUST BE A TEMPLE STANDING

3. FOR THE PARABLE OF THE FIG TREE TO BE ACCOMPLISHED THE LEAVES (the Law) NEED A TEMPLE

4. THE DAILY OBLATION NEEDS A TEMPLE AND ALTAR

There is more to be said, but the posting is already long.   

[Montana Marv]

Side note:

Ezk 38:19 - In my zeal and fiery wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel.

The time of the Gog, Magog invasion this great earthquake will take down the Dome on the Rock, thus allowing for the New Temple to be built.  Just waiting for a Red Heifer to be pure and unblemished.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Uriah]

On 10/10/2023 at 6:18 AM, Neighbor said:

I am inviting  your  insights bible references  and news references.

Hi Neighbor!

I have previously brought up a couple of times; I don't believe there will be a "third Temple" before the the Kingdom Age when Jesus is reigning.

A former leader of the Temple mount group was asked when they will begin building the Temple, seeing as they have made it's implements etc. He continued to say that they are waiting for the Messiah...HE will build it. And he quoted

Zec 6:12

And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:

Zec 6:13

Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

 

The Jewish people are appalled that American Christians want them to build a Temple "for the blaspheming antiChrist" as they know that only a Jewish high priest would be the ONLY one allowed to enter the Holy Place.

 

Additionally, because the Temple we see in the book of Ezekiel in in the Kingdom, will God have two Temples? Misunderstandings in eschatology have brought this to us

 

[Neighbor]

On 10/10/2023 at 6:18 AM, Neighbor said:

Hi all, I am posting Just a couple of links to one resource on the of temples to come  to open up conversation  in relationship to Israel having declared war on ISIS/Hamas and the temples to come. How far into the time of the signs might the world be?

https://byfaith.org/2022/07/24/a-third-temple-in-jerusalem-will-be-built/

https://byfaith.org/2023/07/17/ezekiels-temple-the-fourth-temple-in-jerusalem-israel/

 I am inviting  your  insights bible references  and news references.

Hi all, Some pretty interesting response presentations so far. Thanks!

[Keras]

6 hours ago, Uriah said:

Hi Neighbor!

I have previously brought up a couple of times; I don't believe there will be a "third Temple" before the the Kingdom Age when Jesus is reigning.

A former leader of the Temple mount group was asked when they will begin building the Temple, seeing as they have made it's implements etc. He continued to say that they are waiting for the Messiah...HE will build it. And he quoted

Zec 6:12

And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:

Zec 6:13

Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

 

The Jewish people are appalled that American Christians want them to build a Temple "for the blaspheming antiChrist" as they know that only a Jewish high priest would be the ONLY one allowed to enter the Holy Place.

 

Additionally, because the Temple we see in the book of Ezekiel in in the Kingdom, will God have two Temples? Misunderstandings in eschatology have brought this to us

 

You avoided Zechariah 6:15 Men from far away will come to build the Temple of the Lord........

We know there has to be a new Temple in Jerusalem before Jesus Returns, as the Anti-Christ will desecrate it. Matthew 24:15 and 2 Thess 2:4

[Uriah]

8 hours ago, Keras said:

You avoided Zechariah 6:15 Men from far away will come to build the Temple of the Lord........

But WHEN? 

The entire passage pertains to one context. And of course men will build it. Come on, bro we refer to Solomon's temple but do you think he had no workers and carried all the stones etc?

Zec 6:12- And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:

Zec 6:13- Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

 

Zec 6:15- And they that are far off shall come and build in the temple of the LORD, and ye shall know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto you. And this shall come to pass, if ye will diligently obey the voice of the LORD your God.

Are you indicating that Zec 6:15 proves there will be tw0 temples?

[Keras]

52 minutes ago, Uriah said:

Are you indicating that Zec 6:15 proves there will be tw0 temples?

There will be 3 Temples. 

Isaiah 28:13 tells us that Prophecy is a little here, a little there.  Zechariah 6:12-15 is unfulfilled and refers to the new Temple that Haggai 2:8=9 describes and the Temple that Paul mentions in 2 Thess 2:4 

[Uriah]

3 hours ago, Keras said:

There will be 3 Temples. 

Isaiah 28:13 tells us that Prophecy is a little here, a little there.  Zechariah 6:12-15 is unfulfilled and refers to the new Temple that Haggai 2:8=9 describes and the Temple that Paul mentions in 2 Thess 2:4 

Wow, three temples! Can we add one more and go for four? (Ezekiel) Or doesn't it count?