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Posted
8 minutes ago, AFlameOfFire said:

 ..... how did you even do that?

Oh I can do all sorts of strange things now and then, but I really don't know how to do them.

As for the Java, you need a 32 bit runtime installed, not a 64 bit.  It drove me nuts for a while till I decided to quit following instructions to do it and just did something that works instead.

As for the windows key, you should be able to find them in the Registry without problem, both the key and the serial number as well using regedit.  Before opening the Registry it is wise to export a backup even if you aren't planning to make any changes to it (That also opens up other avenues for your re installation problems as well, but I sort of recommend you  get a minimal education in what the registry does before following them).

Don't toss the laptop, there is always a way to fix it (barring major and expensive hardware breakdowns).

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2 hours ago, FJK said:

Oh I can do all sorts of strange things now and then, but I really don't know how to do them.

As for the Java, you need a 32 bit runtime installed, not a 64 bit.  It drove me nuts for a while till I decided to quit following instructions to do it and just did something that works instead.

As for the windows key, you should be able to find them in the Registry without problem, both the key and the serial number as well using regedit.  Before opening the Registry it is wise to export a backup even if you aren't planning to make any changes to it (That also opens up other avenues for your re installation problems as well, but I sort of recommend you  get a minimal education in what the registry does before following them).

Don't toss the laptop, there is always a way to fix it (barring major and expensive hardware breakdowns).

 

FJK, my Windows 7 laptop works just fine, it might be a little wonky sometimes but I am certain if I did a fresh install of Windows 7 (which I have) it would be just perfect, but I need that product key, without it you cannot even add new hardware and start running it from what I have been told, you cannot upgrade, or reinstall the same software. How nuts is that?

I had watched the video by Access random

"How to find your Windows product key" 

And followed the instructions for both my laptops

I was able to obtain to obtain my key for Windows 10 through the  "command prompt" by entering the following code he provided (and clicking enter)

wmic path softwarelicensingservice get OA3xOriginalProductKey

That worked for Windows 10 but that did not for my Windows 7. And its the latter one I wanted to reinstall the Windows 7 software on (to make it like new). And this would be my back up computer, but thats not working out for me.

 I thought maybe, it would be best to just repurchase all the parts for my Windows 10 laptop (for which I do have the key) just in case a rebuild might be a decent back up in this situation (which I did).  Since I had already downloaded Windows 10 to a USB drive (well, more than  just one) so I am very good there.

So I did try another option on Windows 7, or was that on 10? I forget but the one you had mentioned (which I had mentioned somewhere on this thread) going through Power shell and that also did not work. I just fetched the code online (if someone else could use it, it might work for them).

(Get-WmiObject -query ‘select * from SoftwareLicensingService’).OA3xOriginalProductKey

And after (or before, I forget) I tried ran Regedit and went through all that and it came up "none" after following the instructions. 

And before all that I looked for that COA sticker, anything on the outside of my computer and everywhere in the battery compartment, nothing. Another solution I was told about was the Belarc or Produckey websites where they attempt to retrieve your key through a download, I didn't really like that idea, and searched further and found many others did that and said that they had no luck stating that the keys these will bring up are the manufacturers mass produced keys that do not work in a fresh install or hardware changes (or anything useful).

I think I have exhausted my options (at least I think I have). None of the ways out there have helped me to obtain the key to my Windows 7 laptop. Sort of down about that, its my favorite one (after all these years).

And so what I was counting on for a nice second laptop (as back up) isn't looking like I can use it as one anymore, so I had  just decided I will repurchase all the parts to the Windows 10 laptop (which I did). And since I have obtained that Key I can at least do fresh reinstalls on that one, and if I had to change out the hardware as it gives me any trouble without that key issue hanging over my head. 

But I can still redeem my Windows 7 I would be so happy about that.

I went to the Java site, and here is what it says about 32 bit OS and 64 bit OS's  and which Java is needed between them. 

https://www.java.com/en/download/help/java_win64bit.html

And yes you are right, I shouldn't touch things without a class haha, and I don't mind paying a computer tech person to do what needs to be done (if anything can be) I am just pretty much under the impression that nothing can be done without this key. I wouldn't even mind buying every part for the Windows 7 laptop either if I needed to (or could). Or buy a brand new operating system at full cost at this time its that I "supposedly" cannot without that dumb key.

If there was a way, the cost of doing it is not the problem, I really want to keep this particular computer, I really like it, if I can (at all) rebuild it (hardware wise or software wise) so that both can work on it correctly that would be just fine by me. I just want to make it usable. 

That's all I will say on it, I think it might be a dead horse situation.

Thanks FJK, God bless


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Posted
22 minutes ago, AFlameOfFire said:

 

FJK, my Windows 7 laptop works just fine, it might be a little wonky sometimes but I am certain if I did a fresh install of Windows 7 (which I have) it would be just perfect, but I need that product key, without it you cannot even add new hardware and start running it from what I have been told, you cannot upgrade, or reinstall the same software. How nuts is that?

I had watched the video by Access random

"How to find your Windows product key" 

And followed the instructions for both my laptops

I was able to obtain to obtain my key for Windows 10 through the  "command prompt" by entering the following code he provided (and clicking enter)

wmic path softwarelicensingservice get OA3xOriginalProductKey

That worked for Windows 10 but that did not for my Windows 7. And its the latter one I wanted to reinstall the Windows 7 software on (to make it like new). And this would be my back up computer, but thats not working out for me.

 I thought maybe, it would be best to just repurchase all the parts for my Windows 10 laptop (for which I do have the key) just in case a rebuild might be a decent back up in this situation (which I did).  Since I had already downloaded Windows 10 to a USB drive (well, more than  just one) so I am very good there.

So I did try another option on Windows 7, or was that on 10? I forget but the one you had mentioned (which I had mentioned somewhere on this thread) going through Power shell and that also did not work. I just fetched the code online (if someone else could use it, it might work for them).

(Get-WmiObject -query ‘select * from SoftwareLicensingService’).OA3xOriginalProductKey

And after (or before, I forget) I tried ran Regedit and went through all that and it came up "none" after following the instructions. 

And before all that I looked for that COA sticker, anything on the outside of my computer and everywhere in the battery compartment, nothing. Another solution I was told about was the Belarc or Produckey websites where they attempt to retrieve your key through a download, I didn't really like that idea, and searched further and found many others did that and said that they had no luck stating that the keys these will bring up are the manufacturers mass produced keys that do not work in a fresh install or hardware changes (or anything useful).

I think I have exhausted my options (at least I think I have). None of the ways out there have helped me to obtain the key to my Windows 7 laptop. Sort of down about that, its my favorite one (after all these years).

And so what I was counting on for a nice second laptop (as back up) isn't looking like I can use it as one anymore, so I had  just decided I will repurchase all the parts to the Windows 10 laptop (which I did). And since I have obtained that Key I can at least do fresh reinstalls on that one, and if I had to change out the hardware as it gives me any trouble without that key issue hanging over my head. 

But I can still redeem my Windows 7 I would be so happy about that.

I went to the Java site, and here is what it says about 32 bit OS and 64 bit OS's  and which Java is needed between them. 

https://www.java.com/en/download/help/java_win64bit.html

And yes you are right, I shouldn't touch things without a class haha, and I don't mind paying a computer tech person to do what needs to be done (if anything can be) I am just pretty much under the impression that nothing can be done without this key. I wouldn't even mind buying every part for the Windows 7 laptop either if I needed to (or could). Or buy a brand new operating system at full cost at this time its that I "supposedly" cannot without that dumb key.

If there was a way, the cost of doing it is not the problem, I really want to keep this particular computer, I really like it, if I can (at all) rebuild it (hardware wise or software wise) so that both can work on it correctly that would be just fine by me. I just want to make it usable. 

That's all I will say on it, I think it might be a dead horse situation.

Thanks FJK, God bless

Use regedit and go to (IIRC) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/MICROSOFT  then look around in there for the product key and serial number (use find if needed and to expedite things).  Just write the numbers down, don't change anything,  In this subfolder (Microsoft) you'll find just about everything pertaining to the windows system and install.

Just takes a minute do do it.

BTW, I'm operating out of memory from a while back the last time I did it, and think I'm right about the location but only think so because I would have to do it again to be certain, in any event it will get you close enough to keep looking until you find it.

Again. Don't change anything in the registry, just make note of the data you need and then close it. You should have that data on hand anyway even if you don't plan to use it.

 

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9 minutes ago, FJK said:

Use regedit and go to (IIRC) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SOFTWARE/MICROSOFT  then look around in there for the product key and serial number (use find if needed and to expedite things).  Just write the numbers down, don't change anything,  In this subfolder (Microsoft) you'll find just about everything pertaining to the windows system and install.

Just takes a minute do do it.

BTW, I'm operating out of memory from a while back the last time I did it, and think I'm right about the location but only think so because I would have to do it again to be certain, in any event it will get you close enough to keep looking until you find it.

Again. Don't change anything in the registry, just make note of the data you need and then close it. You should have that data on hand anyway even if you don't plan to use it.

 

Okay, I searched this one out and it says here

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/deployment/view-system-registry-with-64-bit-windows

That this applies to:   Windows 10 - all editions

And the things that worked to find my Windows 10 key does not work for my Windows 7 though and visa versa.

I will give it a try though, might as well, couldn't hurt, so thanks, I will let you know how that turns out after I have.

Thanks FJK

 


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Posted
1 minute ago, AFlameOfFire said:

I will let you know how that turns out after I have.

Be sure to use regedit, not some other program that fakes it, regedit is the windows registry editor. Regedit (just type the word regedit by itself in  run window from the start menu, this give you complete and unrestricted access to the registry.

 

There's another option too you might try, that would be cloning your hard drive to another hard drive and having it on hand as a replacement.  Your hard drive could also be developing errors and that could be the reason for the problems you are describing.  Hard drives are pretty readily available and not to costly and a clone on hand is good insurance against a crash or serious virus or malware infection.

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31 minutes ago, FJK said:

Be sure to use regedit, not some other program that fakes it, regedit is the windows registry editor. Regedit (just type the word regedit by itself in  run window from the start menu, this give you complete and unrestricted access to the registry.

 

There's another option too you might try, that would be cloning your hard drive to another hard drive and having it on hand as a replacement.  Your hard drive could also be developing errors and that could be the reason for the problems you are describing.  Hard drives are pretty readily available and not to costly and a clone on hand is good insurance against a crash or serious virus or malware infection.

Did not work FJK, and I tried it on both, although I really only needed it to work on Windows 7. The website seemed to indicate it was for Windows 10 so I was not surprised.

That's okay, thanks for giving it a whirl with me.

I think I will stop any further attempts here and bite the bullet just look for  another half decent leftover Windows 10 laptop somewhere.

I will make good and sure I know where that dumb key is before I buy it haha

Thanks for all your help, God bless you FJK

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I just wanted to touch back down here since everyone was so kind in trying to help me out and tell you all that I actually found my Windows 7 key (after all of that).  

Today, I was calling around to local computer repair places (after ditching Dell's awful recommendation) that went weird. And so I went to write the phone number down in my address book, and when I opened to "C" for "Computer repair" I needed to page back some where I had actually wrote a not to myself under "Computer"
which read "looking for your Windows 7 pro key"? Look under "W". And there it was! I was so elated! So I do not have to toss that laptop away because it cannot be fixed or upgraded in anyway without it. I can't believe I stuck it under W, but I even forgot I left myself a reminder (and that's typical for me to do because I can be forgetful)

So that totally made my day and I was thanking the Lord all over the place for falling  upon that almost as if by accident but it was so very timely and I had given up any hope of finding it.

Apparently I had it all along, I had probably saved it off the box or off an email and just forgot where  I had placed it. 

 

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I just wanted to touch back down here since everyone was so kind in trying to help me out and tell you all that I actually found my Windows 7 key (after all of that).  

Today, I was calling around to local computer repair places (after ditching Dell's awful recommendation) that went weird. And so I went to write the phone number down in my address book, and when I opened to "C" for "Computer repair" I needed to page back some where I had actually wrote a not to myself under "Computer"
which read "looking for your Windows 7 pro key"? Look under "W". And there it was! I was so elated! So I do not have to toss that laptop away because it cannot be fixed or upgraded in anyway without it. I can't believe I stuck it under W, but I even forgot I left myself a reminder (and that's typical for me to do because I can be forgetful)

So that totally made my day and I was thanking the Lord all over the place for falling  upon that almost as if by accident but it was so very timely and I had given up any hope of finding it.

Apparently I had it all along, I had probably saved it off the box or off an email and just forgot where  I had placed it. 

 

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