Why aren't they fleeing?

[douggg]

1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Christ means annoited one so when someone claims to be anointed, they are claiming to be in Christ.

No, the verse does not mean "I am anointed".     The ones in the verse are claiming to be Jesus Himself.

In Israel's history both the priests and kings were considered anointed's.   "the" messiah is one special anointed by God to be the King of Israel, to lead Israel and the world into the messianic age.

[douggg]

1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Coming In Jesus name are those who claim to be Christian and preach Jesus.

Like these.

Mathew 7:22-23

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

They are not saying "I am Christ" in those verses.

[Shilohsfoal]

3 minutes ago, douggg said:

No, the verse does not mean "I am anointed".     The ones in the verse are claiming to be Jesus Himself.

In Israel's history both the priests and kings were considered anointed's.   "the" messiah is one special anointed by God to be the King of Israel, to lead Israel and the world into the messianic age.

No,the verse does not say "I am Jesus"

It says"I am Christ"

 

How many times do you need to look at something before you can see what is actually written?

 

Luke 21:8

⁸ And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

 

It does not say I am Jesus.

[Shilohsfoal]

3 minutes ago, douggg said:

They are not saying "I am Christ" in those verses.

 

It's time for you to be ignored.

 

 

Luke 21:8

⁸ And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

mathew 24

 

⁴ And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

⁵ For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

mark 13

 

⁵ And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:

⁶ For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

[douggg]

5 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Luke 21:8

⁸ And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

 

It does not say I am Jesus.

The text does not say "I am anointed".    They are identifying themselves as being Jesus.

"I am Christ" is a statement about being the person of Jesus - not about a condition (i.e being anointed).

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

41 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

No,the verse does not say "I am Jesus"

It says"I am Christ"

 

How many times do you need to look at something before you can see what is actually written?

 

Luke 21:8

⁸ And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

 

It does not say I am Jesus.

What name do they come in saying that then?

 

For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ

Edited January 9, 2024 by AFlameOfFire

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

32 minutes ago, douggg said:

The text does not say "I am anointed".    They are identifying themselves as being Jesus.

"I am Christ" is a statement about being the person of Jesus - not about a condition (i.e being anointed).

It would seem, it does say,

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus IS the Christ?

[Shilohsfoal]

22 minutes ago, AFlameOfFire said:

What name do they come in saying that then?

 

For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ

 

Yeshua is his name

In English,he is called Jesus.

 

Mathew 1:21

And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

 

 

Christ is not a name.It is a title which means anointed one.People who have received the holy spirit are annoited.They are in Christ.

Edited January 9, 2024 by Shilohsfoal

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

26 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 

Yeshua is his name

In English,he is called Jesus.

 

Mathew 1:21

And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

 

 

Christ is not a name.It is a title which means anointed one.People who have received the holy spirit are annoited.They are in Christ.

 

Jesus IS the Christ I agree, Paul even says,

"And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity." 2 Ti 2:19

And Jesus did say there would be both false prophets and false Christs

His prophets are considered his anointed also

1 Ch 16:22 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

Seeing prophets and Kings were anointed, for example

1 Kings 19:16 And Jehu the son of Nimshi shalt thou anoint to be king over Israel: 
and Elisha the son of Shaphat of Abelmeholah shalt thou anoint to be prophet in thy room.

1 Sam 26:9 And David said to Abishai, Destroy him not: for who can stretch forth his hand against the LORD'S anointed, and be guiltless?

2 Sam 1:14 And David said unto him, How wast thou not afraid to stretch forth thine hand to destroy the LORD'S anointed?

As the apostles were anointed by God

2 Cr 1:21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;

Aside from false prophets (who might claim to be anointed by God) there is said to be false Christs, and in the definition of false Christ it says,

The definition states

1. a false Christ (or Messiah)

2. one who falsely lays claim to the name and office of the Messiah

Which appears to those who to come in his name (Jesus) saying "I am Christ"

Mat 24:5 For many shall come "in my name", saying, "I am" Christ; and shall deceive many.

As Jesus points out

Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, "here is" Christ, "or there"; believe it not.

Then you have those who are shown naming "the name of" Christ doing wonderful works but who work iniquity in 2 Ti 2:19 

And the first verse I mentioned

2 Ti 2 :19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

From which iniquity they are to depart and those who do not (and continue to work it are shown in the example below

Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Shows how they are used in a few examples

[Shilohsfoal]

13 minutes ago, AFlameOfFire said:

 

Jesus IS the Christ I agree, Paul even says,

"And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity." 2 Ti 2:19

And Jesus did say there would be both false prophets and false Christs

His prophets are considered his anointed also

1 Ch 16:22 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

Seeing prophets and Kings were anointed, for example

1 Kings 19:16 And Jehu the son of Nimshi shalt thou anoint to be king over Israel: 
and Elisha the son of Shaphat of Abelmeholah shalt thou anoint to be prophet in thy room.

1 Sam 26:9 And David said to Abishai, Destroy him not: for who can stretch forth his hand against the LORD'S anointed, and be guiltless?

2 Sam 1:14 And David said unto him, How wast thou not afraid to stretch forth thine hand to destroy the LORD'S anointed?

As the apostles were anointed by God

2 Cr 1:21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;

Aside from false prophets (who might claim to be anointed by God) there is said to be false Christs, and in the definition of false Christ it says,

The definition states

1. a false Christ (or Messiah)

2. one who falsely lays claim to the name and office of the Messiah

Which appears to those who to come in his name (Jesus) saying "I am Christ"

Mat 24:5 For many shall come "in my name", saying, "I am" Christ; and shall deceive many.

As Jesus points out

Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, "here is" Christ, "or there"; believe it not.

Then you have those who are shown naming "the name of" Christ doing wonderful works but who work iniquity in 2 Ti 2:19 

And the first verse I mentioned

2 Ti 2 :19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

From which iniquity they are to depart and those who do not (and continue to work it are shown in the example below

Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Shows how they are used in a few examples

So ,do you understand who comes in Jesus name?