The Great Harlot

[dad2]

22 minutes ago, FJK said:

Just a sort of observation, make of it what you will, he was talking to Jews at the time, there were no "Christians" yet, not until after the Pentecost.

Do you think we will see a time come when the Jews are hated of all men?

No, He was also talking to those who would see the end. In fact, especially to us. It also was not talking about Jews. It was talking about us who believe in Jesus. (including Jews). These days most folks call such people Christians. It doesn't matter what they were called then. The context is when the END comes.

Edited March 29, 2024 by dad2

[FJK]

29 minutes ago, dad2 said:

No, He was also talking to those who would see the end.

Where did he state that and indicate it was not the Jews he was talking to that he was talking to?

[dad2]

1 minute ago, FJK said:

Where did he state that and indicate it was not the Jews he was talking to that he was talking to?

Where He stated things about the end. The Jews of that day were not in the end of the world.

[FJK]

1 minute ago, dad2 said:

Where He stated things about the end. The Jews of that day were not in the end of the world.

A scriptural quotation (the one you are using to determine this)?

[dad2]

39 minutes ago, FJK said:

A scriptural quotation (the one you are using to determine this)?

Luke 21:³¹ So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.

The whole context is the time coming when all will be fulfilled. The end of the world

³ And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

 

[warrior12]

1 hour ago, AdHoc said:

The Commercial side is the way the world economy is run (based on alchemy to create money out of nothing). It is the sum of the world system that God hates. He destroys that system. at His return (Rev.18:8).

What is your definition of "alchemy".  Please paint a picture, so that it is fully understood. 

[warrior12]

6 hours ago, luigi said:

Babylon the Great is a city, not a country;-- and this city is the one that all kings (heads of state) follow in their economic endeavors (Revelation 17:18), so that they can participate in consuming plenty of goodies (Revelation 18:3). We also see this great consumption of the earth, as the fourth beasts agenda in Daniel 7:23.

Who do you see as this being Babylon the great "city".  Do you see it as a specific city of a country you believe or could it be any city in the modern world that is full of splendor and pomp ?.  

[luigi]

14 minutes ago, warrior12 said:

Who do you see as this being Babylon the great "city".  Do you see it as a specific city of a country you believe or could it be any city in the modern world that is full of splendor and pomp ?.  

In my opinion, it's NYC, where the economic ruler of the world is, Wall Street.

[warrior12]

On 3/28/2024 at 10:07 AM, luigi said:

According to Revelation 18:3, all the worlds nations will partake in fornication with Babylon the Great. With its merchants waxing rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

Is Mystery Babylon the great of Revelation 17 and  Revelation the same entity or Harlot ?.  I have read and heard  that some say they are the same and some say they are different ?.  What do you say or are your opinion ?.  Thanks

[FJK]

51 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Luke 21:³¹ So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.

The whole context is the time coming when all will be fulfilled. The end of the world

³ And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

 

Sorry, but I can't see the parable of the fig tree, said to Jews in Israel, to mean that he was talking to gentiles and such thousands of years in the future.

Actually, I don't find any records of Jesus teaching to anyone but Jews and very little interaction at all with any gentiles.

So I remain unswayed in my questioning and my doubts about it.