Israel & Palestinian Situation - Significantly Driven by Extremists

[Neighbor]

20 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

The month of May this year will mark the 76th anniversary of Israel being called a nation again in 1948.

Psalm 83:

Psalm 83

New King James Version

Prayer to Frustrate Conspiracy Against Israel

A Song. A Psalm of Asaph.

 Do not keep silent, O God!
Do not hold Your peace,
And do not be still, O God! For behold, Your enemies make a tumult;
And those who hate You have lifted up their head.
 They have taken crafty counsel against Your people,
And consulted together against Your sheltered ones.
 They have said, “Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation,
That the name of Israel may be remembered no more.”

 For they have consulted together with one consent;
They form a confederacy against You:

 The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites;
Moab and the Hagrites;
 Gebal, Ammon, and Amalek;
Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre;
 Assyria also has joined with them;
They have helped the children of Lot. Selah

 Deal with them as with Midian,
As with Sisera,
As with Jabin at the Brook Kishon,
 Who perished at En Dor,
Who became as refuse on the earth.
 Make their nobles like Oreb and like Zeeb,
Yes, all their princes like Zebah and Zalmunna,
 Who said, “Let us take for ourselves
The pastures of God for a possession.”

 O my God, make them like the whirling dust,
Like the chaff before the wind!
 As the fire burns the woods,
And as the flame sets the mountains on fire, So pursue them with Your tempest,
And frighten them with Your storm.
 Fill their faces with shame,
That they may seek Your name, O Lord.
 Let them be [e]confounded and dismayed forever;
Yes, let them be put to shame and perish,
 That they may know that You, whose name alone is the Lord,
Are the Most High over all the earth.

 

[Eman_3]

21 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

According to what I see in the bible, as the whole thing is ready to hit the fan big time and probably suck much of the world up in it, one person will arise with the apparent solution and make the long sought treaty.  This remarkable person, will be thought of as a real savior of mankind.

Is it wise to appeal to the figurehead of a death cult?

 

2 hours ago, Tristen said:

Israel has certainly behaved poorly in some rare instances. But you mainly have to go back 5-or-more decades to find these instances.

Soon after Israel occupied the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip, in June 1967, the Israeli military authorities consolidated complete power over all water resources and water-related infrastructure in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT). 50 years on, Israel continues to control and restrict Palestinian access to water in the OPT to a level which neither meets their needs nor constitutes a fair distribution of shared water resources.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/11/the-occupation-of-water/

This policy was enacted in 1967 and is still practiced.

[1to3]

Thank you @Eman_3 for sharinf the following

"Soon after Israel occupied the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip, in June 1967, the Israeli military authorities consolidated complete power over all water resources and water-related infrastructure in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT). 50 years on, Israel continues to control and restrict Palestinian access to water in the OPT to a level which neither meets their needs nor constitutes a fair distribution of shared water resources."

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/11/the-occupation-of-water/

This policy was enacted in 1967 and is still practiced.

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Depriving anyone of water, living water  -ANYWHERE- especially premeditated to do so on any living soul, is not nice, unkind unloving, cruel and unmerciful.

As Christians we are called to

John 13:34-35

Christ Jesus said:

“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

 

Matthew 5:40-48

Christ Jesus said:

⁴⁰ And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

⁴¹ And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

⁴² Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

⁴³ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

⁴⁴ But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

⁴⁵ That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

⁴⁶ For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

⁴⁷ And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

⁴⁸ Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

[Vine Abider]

8 hours ago, Tristen said:

My concern with the above quote (point 3) is that it could be perceived as spreading the accountability equally between Israel and its aggressors. That would be an astonishingly unjust misrepresentation of the history of the conflict. 

Neither side is completely innocent. Nevertheless, there is an overwhelmingly right side - who reserves the just right to defend its citizens, and an overtly evil side - that considers itself to have an Allah-given right to commit atrocities against Israeli civilians (and Jews in general, and westerners more broadly). 

 

Agreed and point taken.  But I think it would be remise not to mention that there were things Israeli extremists did, as it goes to the root of much of what Muslims bring up.  I think we need need to have our eyes wide open nonetheless . . . These occurrences - as you said, from mainly several decades ago - don't come anywhere close to tipping the scales, as Israel has an overwhelming right to be there, and the Arabs are responsible for probably over 90% of the misbehaving that's occurred.

[Vine Abider]

12 hours ago, Neighbor said:

Hi, Then you might find the many writings and especially videos of Zola Levitt Ministries to contain useful information. I posted one video by Zola Levitt titled "Whose Land is it?"  in the videos general  category.

Thanks - I watched a good part of it.  He does a good job of presenting the irrefutable facts of Israel's historical right to the land.

[Eman_3]

3 hours ago, 1to3 said:

Depriving anyone of water, living water  -ANYWHERE- especially premeditated to do so on any living soul, is not nice, unkind unloving, cruel and unmerciful.

Just about everyone has an opinion on this horrific conflict. But how many know the reasons why? Yes, the Hamas attack on Oct 7 should be forever condemned. But why?

 

In Oct 21, 2021 ...

NEW YORK, 21 August 2021 - “Unless urgent action is taken, more than four million people across Lebanon – predominantly vulnerable children and families – face the prospect of critical water shortages or being completely cut off from safe water supply in the coming days.

“Last month, UNICEF warned that more than 71 per cent of the population of Lebanon could run out of water this summer. Since then, this perilous situation has continued, with critical services including water and sanitation, power networks and healthcare under huge strain. Vital facilities such as hospitals and health centres have been without access to safe water due to electricity shortages, putting lives at risk. 

https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/lebanon-danger-losing-critical-access-water

[1to3]

People also should familiarize and become aware of what treaties the U.S. government have been signing especially since 1990ies  till this day  through executive orders,c0ncerning the Noahide Laws. These laws may look  at first glance moral & good but they are not in the bible and they have other sublaws to them which in time if passed will bring on the death to many Christians,

Please do you own research.

Here is just one of the agreements, more have been signed even under the Trump administration.

https://www.congress.gov/101/statute/STATUTE-104/STATUTE-104-Pg130.pdf

[Marathoner]

I'm in resounding agreement regarding an abhorrence toward violence. That has no place in the Body of Christ and the apostles of the Lord affirm this in New Testament scripture. The words of the Lord Himself teach us to be peacemakers. 

It's rather telling when some who profess the name of the Lord "take sides" in worldly affairs and condone the horror of war. There is no excuse for it.

[other one]

There are just wars.

[Vine Abider]

1 hour ago, Marathoner said:

I'm in resounding agreement regarding an abhorrence toward violence. That has no place in the Body of Christ and the apostles of the Lord affirm this in New Testament scripture. The words of the Lord Himself teach us to be peacemakers. 

It's rather telling when some who profess the name of the Lord "take sides" in worldly affairs and condone the horror of war. There is no excuse for it.

Agree.  Violence is not one of the listed fruit of the Spirit.

33 minutes ago, other one said:

There are just wars.

The more I get into the whole middle east thing, the more I see ol' Adam on display!  However, God will work it all together for His wonderful purpose, and things certainly do appear to be playing out according to what is biblically foretold. 

When I pray about situations like this I often just pray, "Lord, stop those who need stopping.  Energize and bring clarity and wisdom to those who need it, and bring confusion where it is needed.  I pray that your hand is on the leaders on both side, to do as You will. May your name be glorified and save those who should be saved in this situation.  Your will be done!"  And even though I believe God strongly looks out for Israel, I pray that way because I usually don't have the finer insight to pray more specifically - I figure leave it in His capable hands!