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Hebrews 10:

26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth,

there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 

27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment,

and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 

 

After praying and meditating on these verses,

the Holy Spirit reminded me of the Words of Christ here:

Matthew 7: 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; 

and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 

 

There remains an appeal for mercy based on the degree of mercy we have shown.

James 2:13 For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. 

Mercy triumphs over judgment.

 

This leads to a concern for when we offend a brother,

and compromising another's life in Christ.

 

Luke 17:

1 Then He said to the disciples, “It is impossible that no offenses should come,

but woe to him through whom they do come!"

2 It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck,

and he were thrown into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

Paul imparted much wisdom when he wrote:

Romans 14:

10 But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? 

For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 

11 For it is written:

“As I live, says the Lord,
Every knee shall bow to Me,
And every tongue shall confess to God.”

12 So then each of us shall give account of himself to God.

13 Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, 

not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way.

 


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, it's  only when we do not recognise  that our words or actionIf we are repentant for upsetting  a brother, and in my case that is often unintentionally, and so apologise when told.

There is no problem if we are able to accept  that we have offended.

If we cannot or will not, for what ever reason then we have a problem.

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21 hours ago, Mr. M said:

 

13 Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, 

not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way.

This is an idea that I see repeated several times in scripture. In I Corinthians 8 Paul speaks about food sacrificed to idols. He reminded the audience that the idols are powerless and there's only one God, and that food has nothing to do with salvation. But his conclusion is that it was better to abstain from eating meat rather than to cause a fellow believer to stumble.

I Corinthians 8:8-13: "Food will not commend us to God. We are no worse off if we do not eat, and no better off if we do. 9But take care that this right of yours does not somehow become a stumbling block to the weak. For if anyone sees you who have knowledge eating in an idol’s temple, will he not be encouraged, if his conscience is weak, to eat food offered to idols? And so by your knowledge this weak person is destroyed, the brother for whom Christ died. Thus, sinning against your brothers and wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin against Christ. Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble."

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On 6/14/2024 at 5:21 AM, AnOrangeCat said:

This is an idea that I see repeated several times in scripture. In I Corinthians 8 Paul speaks about food sacrificed to idols. He reminded the audience that the idols are powerless and there's only one God, and that food has nothing to do with salvation. But his conclusion is that it was better to abstain from eating meat rather than to cause a fellow believer to stumble.

I Corinthians 8:8-13: "Food will not commend us to God. We are no worse off if we do not eat, and no better off if we do. 9But take care that this right of yours does not somehow become a stumbling block to the weak. For if anyone sees you who have knowledge eating in an idol’s temple, will he not be encouraged, if his conscience is weak, to eat food offered to idols? And so by your knowledge this weak person is destroyed, the brother for whom Christ died. Thus, sinning against your brothers and wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin against Christ. Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble."

 

Philippians 2:

3 Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit,

but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself

4 Let each of you look out not only for his own interests,

but also for the interests of others.

To truly delight in doing God's Will, we must

truly delight in caring for the brethren beloved:

Hebrews 10:

5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said:

Sacrifice and offering You did not desire,
But a body You have prepared for Me.
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin
You had no pleasure.
7 Then I said, Behold, I have come—
In the volume of the book it is written of Me—
To do Your will, O God.

8 Previously saying, Sacrifice and offering, burnt offerings,

and offerings for sin You did not desire,

nor had pleasure in them (which are offered according to the law),

 9 then He said, Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God.

He takes away the first that He may establish the second.

 10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering

of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

 

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5 hours ago, Who me said:

, it's  only when we do not recognise  that our words or actionIf we are repentant for upsetting  a brother, and in my case that is often unintentionally, and so apologise when told.

There is no problem if we are able to accept  that we have offended.

If we cannot or will not, for what ever reason then we have a problem.

A problem indeed!

Luke 17:

1 Then said he unto the disciples,

It is impossible but that offences will come:

but woe unto him, through whom they come!

2 It were better for him that a millstone was hanged about his neck,

and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him;

and if he repent, forgive him.

4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times

in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

 

I was discussing a teaching in 1 John yesterday with @tatwo,

1 John 5:

16 If anyone sees his brother committing a trespass which does not lead to death,

he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit a trespass not leading to death. 

There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that. 

17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a trespass not leading to death.

 

I was "wondering aloud" about a trespass leading to death, if the death

that resulted was the one offended.

Matthew 24:

10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another,

and will hate one another. 

11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 

12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 

13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 


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On 6/13/2024 at 11:00 AM, Mr. M said:

Hebrews 10:

26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.

Your post didn't explain your understanding of these 2 verses.  A number of believers assume that "no longer remains a sacrifice for sins" means that the sinning believer is "out of luck" and loses salvation, when nothing could be further from the truth.

In fact, Heb 10:18 clearly explains what v.26 is talking about.  One could title Heb 10 as "Christ's sacrifice Once for ALL", which means His sacrifice on the cross was for everyone and every sin by everyone.

v.18 - Where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer any offering (sacrifice) for sin.

By faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross, the believer's sins have all been forgiven.  

Acts 10:43 - To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”

On 6/13/2024 at 11:00 AM, Mr. M said:

 After praying and meditating on these verses, the Holy Spirit reminded me of the Words of Christ here:

Matthew 7: 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 

There remains an appeal for mercy based on the degree of mercy we have shown.

There is no "appeal for mercy" for believers.  All their sins have been forensically forgiven, if Actss 10:43 is true.  (and it is!)

However, since there is no such thing as "sinless perfection", and believers still commit on-going sins, the solution is found in 1 John 1:9 - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness

On 6/13/2024 at 11:00 AM, Mr. M said:

 

 

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On 6/14/2024 at 7:06 AM, Mr. M said:

7 Then I said, Behold, I have come—
In the volume of the book it is written of Me—
To do Your will, O God.

Psalm 40:

7 Then I said, “Behold, I come;
In the scroll of the book it is written of me.
8 I delight to do Your will, O my God,
And Your law is within my heart.”


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On 6/15/2024 at 3:45 PM, FreeGrace said:

There is no "appeal for mercy" for believers.  All their sins have been forensically forgiven, if Actss 10:43 is true.  (and it is!)

However, since there is no such thing as "sinless perfection", and believers still commit on-going sins, the solution is found in 1 John 1:9 - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness

Hebrews 4:

14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 

15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 

16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

Hebrews 12:

3 For consider Him who endured such hostility from sinners against Himself, 

lest you become weary and discouraged in your souls. 

4 You have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin.


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4 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

  FreeGrace said:

There is no "appeal for mercy" for believers.  All their sins have been forensically forgiven, if Actss 10:43 is true.  (and it is!)

However, since there is no such thing as "sinless perfection", and believers still commit on-going sins, the solution is found in 1 John 1:9 - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness

Hebrews 4:

14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 

15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 

16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

Hebrews 12:

3 For consider Him who endured such hostility from sinners against Himself, 

lest you become weary and discouraged in your souls. 

4 You have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin.

Please indicate if any of these verses refute my quote above, since you didn't explain what they mean to you.

Thanks.


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On 6/15/2024 at 3:45 PM, FreeGrace said:

There is no "appeal for mercy" for believers.

 

8 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

 

8 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

4 You have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin.

There are great and precious promises made to all who have ears to hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches.

These promises are for those who overcome. When we feel that we are being overcome, there is an appeal for mercy.

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