“After Me, the Deluge” – King Louis XV (r. 1715 - 1774)

[WilliamL]

“After Me, the Deluge” – King Louis XV (r. 1715 - 1774)

The American and French Revolutions were contemporary. And they both addressed similar complaints: citizens fed up and beyond by their overbearing, over-taxing, power-loving government officials and associate plutocrat-monopolists in business and finance.

In both lands, the revolutionary zeal led to a moment when a ‘shot was heard around the world.’

The two revolutions differed in that, in the American case, the elite were across the ocean in England, and only their appointed officials were resident in the Colonies. Whereas in France, both elite and commoner lived within the same borders. Thus the elite over America escaped that revolution largely unscathed, while the French elite did not.

In our time, not much differs from the former time. America’s elite still live – or can live, in as short a time as an aircraft flight – overseas; only their appointed officials are bounded residents of the land. Whereas the French commoners all live within the same borders as do most of their elite, if one accedes their borderline to be that of the EU as a whole.

The combined burdens of overbearing officialdom and predatory plutocrats inevitably lead to a breakdown in a country’s economy, and hence in its civil order. In both the late 18th-century American and French Revolutions, the formula was:

Oppression x Poverty = a terminal sum,

and then revolutionary zeal poured out into the streets of the cities and throughout the countryside.

Poverty and oppression will likewise be the burning issues of the US 2024 election and beyond. Whoever prevails in that election, it is unlikely that the loser (by fair vote or by foul) will cede the field.

Early Spring is “when kings go out to war.” Both the American Revolution and the War Between the States began in April. Both of our current political and economic stresses, oppression and poverty, will quite likely multiply together into a terminal sum about that same time next Spring. The outbreak of the War Between the States was immediately preceded by a highly-contested Presidential election, in which the losing states soon afterward withdrew from, and then began hostilities against, the winners. Does that not sound like a likely scenario for our day?

The one thing that might, for a while, divert this looming internal conflict would be if the US becomes militarily engaged in a foreign war.

In the late 18th century, the French ruling elite brought their country to financial insolvency due to their profligate spending of the government’s money. The present US government is likewise technically insolvent for the same reason: profligate spending. King Louis XV of France presciently remarked, in reference to France’s looming insolvency, “After me, the deluge.” Here late 18th-century France and 21st-century America are alike: thus the growing populist revolutionary zeal in this land.

 

This is not meant to be taken as a prophecy, but rather as a prediction based upon a lot of different points of evidence, many of which are not included here.

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[PATrobas]

2 Timothy 2:3-4 "Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. :4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier."

[D. Adrien]

10 hours ago, WilliamL said:

“After Me, the Deluge” – King Louis XV (r. 1715 - 1774)

The American and French Revolutions were contemporary. And they both addressed similar complaints: citizens fed up and beyond by their overbearing, over-taxing, power-loving government officials and associate plutocrat-monopolists in business and finance.

In both lands, the revolutionary zeal led to a moment when a ‘shot was heard around the world.’

The two revolutions differed in that, in the American case, the elite were across the ocean in England, and only their appointed officials were resident in the Colonies. Whereas in France, both elite and commoner lived within the same borders. Thus the elite over America escaped that revolution largely unscathed, while the French elite did not.

In our time, not much differs from the former time. America’s elite still live – or can live, in as short a time as an aircraft flight – overseas; only their appointed officials are bounded residents of the land. Whereas the French commoners all live within the same borders as do most of their elite, if one accedes their borderline to be that of the EU as a whole.

The combined burdens of overbearing officialdom and predatory plutocrats inevitably lead to a breakdown in a country’s economy, and hence in its civil order. In both the late 18th-century American and French Revolutions, the formula was:

Oppression x Poverty = a terminal sum,

and then revolutionary zeal poured out into the streets of the cities and throughout the countryside.

Poverty and oppression will likewise be the burning issues of the US 2024 election and beyond. Whoever prevails in that election, it is unlikely that the loser (by fair vote or by foul) will cede the field.

Early Spring is “when kings go out to war.” Both the American Revolution and the War Between the States began in April. Both of our current political and economic stresses, oppression and poverty, will quite likely multiply together into a terminal sum about that same time next Spring. The outbreak of the War Between the States was immediately preceded by a highly-contested Presidential election, in which the losing states soon afterward withdrew from, and then began hostilities against, the winners. Does that not sound like a likely scenario for our day?

The one thing that might, for a while, divert this looming internal conflict would be if the US becomes militarily engaged in a foreign war.

In the late 18th century, the French ruling elite brought their country to financial insolvency due to their profligate spending of the government’s money. The present US government is likewise technically insolvent for the same reason: profligate spending. King Louis XV of France presciently remarked, in reference to France’s looming insolvency, “After me, the deluge.” Here late 18th-century France and 21st-century America are alike: thus the growing populist revolutionary zeal in this land.

 

This is not meant to be taken as a prophecy, but rather as a prediction based upon a lot of different points of evidence, many of which are not included here.

Comments/Agree/Disagree?

Definitely conflict is coming. here in the U.S. or overseas. the U.S. government has been warmongering for decades now bending to the will of defense contractors and the military industrial complex, both of these entities composed of the same? (War profits).

Listen to what this seasoned MIT scientist has observed recently and notice how serious he is in his demeanor (and his credentials): 33 min video. Search YouTube: MIT Nuclear Expert DIRE WARNING On Ukraine Escalation

Edited July 1, 2024 by Michael37
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[Dennis1209]

18 hours ago, WilliamL said:

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I used a secular philosophy in hiring practices while in federal government employment, which states that the best indicator of future performance is past performance. It can also be adapted to history, as your post alludes to.

The best of secular historians recognize a pattern repeated over and over again. Your historical post bears this out. I propose America is in number nine:

The Cycle of Nations:

(1) From bondage to spiritual faith.

(2) From spiritual faith to great courage.

(3) From courage to liberty.

(4) From liberty to abundance.

(5) From abundance to selfishness.

(6) From selfishness to complacency.

(7) From complacency to apathy.

(8) From apathy to dependency. (entitlement mentality)

(9) From dependency back again into bondage.

--Sir Alex Fraser Tyler, A Scottish jurist and historian

It seems the wisest man that ever lived might agree:

Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

Today, at least 50% of the American population has an entitlement mentality and is dependent on Uncle Sugar for their living off the backs of earners (bread & circuses).

One thing rings true: A government that gives you everything you want, by definition, must take everything you have to pay for it.

Governments do not produce one barrel of oil or one bushel of wheat, nothing. They derive their income through taxing, borrowing, or printing. They give that fiat representation of stored and future wealth to the politician's choice of beneficiaries for votes. Look at the mess, debt, and inflation we are in today, leading to hyperinflation:

Revelation 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

How our government measures our economic health, prosperity, national wealth, and financial success is ridiculous, and is a debt-based economy. Our prosperity, health, and wealth are based on how much personal and government debt we can accumulate! The government does it for us if we can not keep up with enough personal debt.

All of this is playing out as our Bible predicts. It manifests with global alignments, current affairs, U.N. Agenda 2030, and the World Economic Forum (WEC) everywhere.

You will own nothing and be happy:

You'll own nothing and be happy - Wikipedia

Only the Lord knows the fate of America, but I happen to agree with the late Ruth Graham, wife of Evangelist Billy Graham:

"If God does not Judge America soon, He owes an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah." ~ Ruth Graham

The Greatest Generation is fast fading into the annals of history. Liberalism, entitlement, social justice warriors, reparations, gay rights, gender identity, wokeism, and socialism are taking over. Critical thinking and debate are banned in most public schools and institutions of dumber learning. If a person counters the status quo of discussion, they are ostracized, kicked out of school, or lose tenure.

To summarize, I highly doubt a second American Civil War for various reasons, which are too numerous to mention. Our founders were wise men (but we know they were not perfect in many aspects), giving us the Second Amendment to protect the rest of the Bill of Rights and government tyranny.

I would like to hear other's thoughts on how they would define government tyranny and any applications of that today in America.

O'Biden's campaign slogan was taken from the globalist United Nations. To build back better, something must be torn down first. That is precisely the plan and what we are witnessing via in-your-face U.N. Agenda 2030:

 21252030 Agenda for Sustainable Development web.pdf (un.org)

 

 

 

 

[WilliamL]

On 7/1/2024 at 8:19 AM, Dennis1209 said:

To summarize, I highly doubt a second American Civil War for various reasons, which are too numerous to mention.

Good and accurate post, but this one sentence didn't fit with the rest of it.

To summarize means to briefly explain a longer thesis, but nothing in your post addressed the civil conflict that will arise when the government dole (for both poor and elite) comes to an end with the collapse of the dollar. Not to mention all the other highly-polarized left-right issues on the boil.

Care to explain how you reached your conclusion against there being a coming time of internecine strife?

[Dennis1209]

2 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Good and accurate post, but this one sentence didn't fit with the rest of it.

To summarize means to briefly explain a longer thesis, but nothing in your post addressed the civil conflict that will arise when the government dole (for both poor and elite) comes to an end with the collapse of the dollar. Not to mention all the other highly-polarized left-right issues on the boil.

Care to explain how you reached your conclusion against there being a coming time of internecine strife?

If I write all my thoughts on any particular subject, I write a book, and I get carried away as it is. I base my thoughts and predictions on the Bible, history, and human nature. They are just thoughts; I have no unique insight into them.

Not if, but when the US and global economy crashes, there will be strife, plenty of it. The US is well beyond insolvent and bankrupt, and the time is coming to pay the piper.

When the welfare, social security, food stamps, section 8, and all the bread and circuses stop, there will be riots and looting galore, especially in cities. They try to burn down neighborhoods and cities because of the results of a basketball game; what will happen in a crisis or collapse? Our government will be well prepared for martial law. Gangbangers, druggies, and the common criminals will be having a field day. Most likely, people in rural communities will band together to thwart the carnage eventually heading their way.

Our last civil war involved states’ rights, northern aggression, and oppression of southern states. Perhaps there will be pockets of armed resistance this go around, but there will not be states that join any revolt or succession the way I view it. Political corruption, jurisprudence, and political correctness are out of control; there are two legal systems. Both sides of the Congressional Isle do nothing but talk about the corruption, with no objective actions. The legal system has been politically weaponized; that is obvious.

[Michael37]

34 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Both sides of the Congressional Isle

Should that be aisle?

[Neighbor]

39 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

The US is well beyond insolvent and bankrupt, and the time is coming to pay the piper.

 

Hi, I don't buy into that. The USA is challenged of course, but it has capacity galore to increase it's productivity, especially in the fields of AI and in world currency with Cyber mines. If it gets out of the endless war business, cuts it's military, and competes where there is a strong growth industry it's growth  will outpace the debt's legal requirements and it will become a non issue.

The next four  months will be crucially important in determining the direction, more of the duopoly or  a real turning about of and for "We The People".

[Michael37]

1 minute ago, Neighbor said:

Hi, I don't buy into that. The USA is challenged of course, but it has capacity galore to increase it's productivity, especially in the fields of AI and in world currency with Cyber mines. If it gets out of the endless war business, cuts it's military, and competes where there is a strong growth industry it's growth  will outpace the debt's legal requirements and it will become a non issue.

The next four  months will be crucially important in determining the direction, more of the duopoly or  a real turning about of and for "We The People".

The USA is very important to NZ. We will not let it slide into the abyss. 

[Neighbor]

Even now there are parts of this country USA where productivity is rapidly increasing, industrial space is at a premium, and demand for more is extremely strong. There is need for facilities as well as  for staff and housing that is bringing about some intense activity by those that do develop economies through their own enterprise endeavors.