The Place & Purpose Of The Bible In Your Life

[Dennis1209]

20 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Divine Foreknowledge is Infallible in Election.

Rom 8:14  For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
 

Hey Michael, how are things revolving down way under? 

I will not write a dissertation on this nor stoke a debate or discussion on foreknowledge vs. election or Calvinism vs. Arminianism. But 1 Samuel 23:10-13 clarified my thinking on election.

[farouk]

13 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Hey Michael, how are things revolving down way under? 

I will not write a dissertation on this nor stoke a debate or discussion on foreknowledge vs. election or Calvinism vs. Arminianism. But 1 Samuel 23:10-13 clarified my thinking on election.

Hi @Dennis1209 I'm sure there are indeed plenty of examples from both Old and New Testaments which exemplify God's sovereignty in His dealings with people.

[Dennis1209]

43 minutes ago, farouk said:

Hi @Dennis1209 I'm sure there are indeed plenty of examples from both Old and New Testaments which exemplify God's sovereignty in His dealings with people.

Howdy,

What I intended from the example I provided was that those things never happened. God knows the beginning from the end, who will accept the free gift of Salvation, and who will not. He knows all the outcomes, details, and consequences of every free-will choice and decision we can possibly make.

What if David had not consulted and inquired to God?

David is the only man in the Bible that is said to be “after God’s own heart.” It took me a lot of study to form an opinion of what that means—considering David’s multiple grievous sins with Bathsheba, having Uriah killed in battle to cover up his sin, and numbering Israel’s army.

I concluded and believe that one reason is that David was the only king who never slipped into idolatry. He was always faithful and trusted the Lord. The Psalms David wrote are heart-wrenching.

[farouk]

12 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Howdy,

What I intended from the example I provided was that those things never happened. God knows the beginning from the end, who will accept the free gift of Salvation, and who will not. He knows all the outcomes, details, and consequences of every free-will choice and decision we can possibly make.

What if David had not consulted and inquired to God?

David is the only man in the Bible that is said to be “after God’s own heart.” It took me a lot of study to form an opinion of what that means—considering David’s multiple grievous sins with Bathsheba, having Uriah killed in battle to cover up his sin, and numbering Israel’s army.

I concluded and believe that one reason is that David was the only king who never slipped into idolatry. He was always faithful and trusted the Lord. The Psalms David wrote are heart-wrenching.

@Dennis1209 Such depths in the Psalms: the highs, the lows, the Messianic content, the anguish, the joy, the faith.............

[Neighbor]

3 hours ago, Marathoner said:

The Lord is the One who instructs us, and He does so by us listening to His voice.

 I "hear" God when the printed word the Bible jumps out at me with , most often, correction or new to me leading  all by the Holy Spirit which indwells me. Without the commands precepts and principles declared and taught within the Bible I do not 'hear" God, but instead my own wishes as to what God might condone if not greatly bless.

And that is when I can get into trouble if I end up doing what feels good to me thinking that God surely should bless, instead of my having stopped to think about, pray upon, and read over within the Bible seeking  command, precept, and principle, that will enlighten me and then "hear"  the Holy Spirit bring the confirming as well as the leading that says to me you will be  blessed as you also bless God in this (particular) matter.

I do hear the counsel of others, many that are  wise in that they have spent time, decades even, in reading the Bible, and then are prepared to think pray and read yet again as they give counsel as they too are lead by the Holy Spirit.

I fear it is great folly to engage in what I think of as practicing of a Walt Disney Jiminy Cricket professing religion- "let your conscience be your guide".  No! Make conscience be guided and subservient to the word of God, the written Bible,  inspired of God, which must be read with understanding  that comes through the indwelling Holy Spirit who is God.

It is work. Work that need be done  by the saints in Christ Jesus in a worthily manner. Praise God for his word.

 

[Michael37]

3 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

Hey Michael, how are things revolving down way under? 

The last two days have been cold and wet where I live, but that doesn't bother me. It's really good having Worthy Christian Forums to participate in and contribute to.

Your 1 Samuel 23 account of David asking the priest to bring the ephod and his consulting God regarding his preservation is a good example of conditional consequences, in this case of David not taking appropriate evasive measures, which thing he was then prompted to do.

We see conditional consequences in NT writing also.

Col 1:21-23  And you, who were once alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled  (22)  in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy and without blemish, and without charge in His sight,  (23)  if indeed you continue in the faith grounded and settled, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which you have heard and which was proclaimed in all the creation under Heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister,

[D. Adrien]

5 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Col 1:21-23  And you, who were once alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled  (22)  in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy and without blemish, and without charge in His sight,  (23)  if indeed you continue in the faith grounded and settled, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which you have heard and which was proclaimed in all the creation under Heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister,

Rom. 13:14 go very well with this;

But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires.

Continuing to indulge in hedonism is no way for a Christian to travel through life.