Are there other gods?

[The Battlefront]

On 7/14/2024 at 2:08 PM, Duck said:

False gods, so, fake, imaginary?

So there are no other 'real' gods.

 

fallen angels masquerading as more powerful than they are. The Spirits can affect the physical realm in weird ways (God's angel breaking Peter out of prison for example or Legion and his chain breaking) they are not limited to our realms nature as they are unnatural. Thus they offer to "bless" others typically in exchange for ritual human sacrifices. They love it when humans pray for selfish desires as it is within their nature to love sin. Are other "gods" real? the denizens of the Middle east called them elohim meaning- lower case g, gods. Deuteronomy 32:16 teaches that demons operate behind idolatry. Pergamos in Revelations (Christ's message to the Churches of Turkey) has the seat of satan  mentioned (a temple to zeus) using logic I think you can infer what i'm on about. Idolatry is attributed to satan and pagans openly prayed to the satanic powers in this region.

the answer is basically yes. Demons masquerade as greater than they are just as they always have. The answer is also no because there is only one Creator of everything with ultimate Power: YHWH.

Satan will attempt the same thing in the Third temple during the events of Revelations. (Exalting himself as god)

Not to mention the Nephelim the angels offspring that proclaimed themselves as godkings. Wiped out in the flood...  Their bones when found, are taken, and hidden from public view by the smithsonian.

Edited July 17, 2024 by The Battlefront

[Still Alive]

4 hours ago, Duck said:

And preachers

I moved from Seattle to rural south central Kentucky 13 years ago. I joined a southern gospel band that played at a LOT of the small churches here usually on Sunday night. 

The amount of raw ignorance coming from some of those pulpits just floored me. One was a "$30 a month retired guy that did not prepare. Rather, he preached "as the Lord guided him". And if it were not so serious it would be laughablt. I was so embarrassed for them. 

And to top it off, some of those church members were truly miserable people. I put some of the blame directly on some of the sermons I heard. So many of them are "trying to be good enough to avoid eternal torture in hell" but constantly afraid they ain't gonna make it to heaven. It was heartbreaking.

[Your closest friendnt]

From the bible we have a lot input that answers this question. To Abraham God made a Covenant with that he will be his God and the God of his children's children only and not the God of the rest of the world. And he told him that he will be his God and the God of his children through Issac and Jacob always not only while they lived but also after they died continously. That made the difference between him and the Gods of the rest of the world who could only be the Gods of the people while they lived and never after they died. This is how God set Abraham apart and his bless offsprings from the rest of the world. Not only in life but also after they died. He called himself the most high God of all the other Gods as in God Almighty. At that time he was the only God who the God of the dead who took all the other people at the time of their death unto himself (but not Abraham and his children) and kept them in his domain in the realm of the dead Jesus called him Hades. And he kept the dead people in Hades his own place. God said to Moses that he is the God of his ancestors Abraham Issac and Jacob and also the God of the children of Jacob or Israel. He was telling Moses who he is and that also he is his God as Moses was from the tribe of Levi. The God of the dead Hades took all the people from the other Gods at the time of their death but not Abraham and his people whom God Almighty had provide a place for him in the place of the dead but seperated them from the dead of the rest of the world and the God of the dead Hades. Abraham's place was called Abraham's Bosom. The inheritance of Abraham after death which included the promise of the Christ and to be included in his Heavenly Inheritance. Till that time they were gathered to Abraham and waiting together with him for the Heir of the Heavenly Inheritance the Promised one to Abraham and in Genesis 3 the seed of the woman the Messiah. With the death of Jesus Christ every thing change. Jesus said all authority has been given to Me and I have the Keys of Death and Hades. The Promised to Abraham was fulfilled and he was in Jesus Christ and the people with him and they were included in Jesus Christ Heavenly Inheritance and the big change Jesus Christ became the Judge of all the people of the earth. The seed of the woman crushed the head of the Serpent. The Serpent lost his authority by default to harvest all the people at the time of their death not Abraham and his children. Jesus Christ now judges all the people of the world and inclusive all who died. The old one two is stopped at the time of Jesus Christ death on the Cross. He took the keys of death and Hades. Death comes to people but Hades is not following ti take them as in the past, Jesus is the one to Judge their eternal place. New system after people die.Jesus Christ is apointed to Judge everyone all authority has been given to him every one will bow down to him. When everyone dies is brought before his Throne and he told us that every one who believes in him is not Judge. They all are co-heirs with him of the Heavenly Inheritance. The believers in him they have a Heavenly Inheritance they have a right to their Heavenly Inheritance. They are in the Life the Eternal Life of Jesus Christ and in the Heavenly Father. 

 

Edited July 17, 2024 by Your closest friendnt

[warrior12]

6 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

From the bible we have a lot input that answers this question.

Please. If you want your content to be read, break up the post into paragraphs separated by a space.   I am have a hard time reading even with glasses, so following a post like above would be difficult for me.  Thanks friendnt.  

[Your closest friendnt]

6 hours ago, warrior12 said:

Please. If you want your content to be read, break up the post into paragraphs separated by a space.   I am have a hard time reading even with glasses, so following a post like above would be difficult for me.  Thanks friendnt.  

Sorry about that. I am going to work on it. And thank you. 

Edited July 17, 2024 by Your closest friendnt

[Your closest friendnt]

From the bible we have a lot input that answers this question.

To Abraham God made a Covenant that he will be his God and the God of his children's children only, and not the God of the rest of the world. At that time and only till the Cross of Jesus Christ, the beginning of the New Covenant. 

And he told him that he will be his God and the God of his children through Issac and Jacob and not only while they lived but also after they died continously in life and in death.

That made the difference between him and the Gods of the rest of the world who could only be the Gods of their people while the people lived and never after they died.

This is how God set Abraham apart and his bless offsprings from the rest of the world. Not only in life but also after their death.

He called himself the most high God of all the other Gods as in the Lord God Almighty.

 The God of the dead Hades took all the people of the world by default at the time of their death no matter who was their God (but could not gathered unto himself Abraham and his children in both the Covenant of Cirumcision and the Covenant of Sinai) and kept them in his domain in the realm of the dead. Jesus called him Hades in Revelation 1: after his resurrection  when he said: I have the Keys of Death and Hades.

God said to Moses at the burning bush that he is the God of his ancestors Abraham Issac and Jacob who had died some time ago. Signifying to him that He is still their God.

Moses understood that he was his God and the God of the Israelites. And he will be their God after their death. And that God had separated his people at death from the rest of the dead of the world. And at the time of their death were gathered to Abraham, in Abraham's Bosom. 

This is was the inheritance of Abraham after death which included the promise of the coming Messiah the Christ of God with the Heavenly Inheritance. 

All these things as they were before the Cross, before the new  covenant of Jesus Christ. 

 

[grahampaul]

On 7/17/2024 at 5:43 AM, Your closest friendnt said:

From the bible we have a lot input that answers this question. To Abraham God made a Covenant with that he will be his God and the God of his children's children only and not the God of the rest of the world. And he told him that he will be his God and the God of his children through Issac and Jacob always not only while they lived but also after they died continously. That made the difference between him and the Gods of the rest of the world who could only be the Gods of the people while they lived and never after they died. This is how God set Abraham apart and his bless offsprings from the rest of the world. Not only in life but also after they died. He called himself the most high God of all the other Gods as in God Almighty. At that time he was the only God who the God of the dead who took all the other people at the time of their death unto himself (but not Abraham and his children) and kept them in his domain in the realm of the dead Jesus called him Hades. And he kept the dead people in Hades his own place. God said to Moses that he is the God of his ancestors Abraham Issac and Jacob and also the God of the children of Jacob or Israel. He was telling Moses who he is and that also he is his God as Moses was from the tribe of Levi. The God of the dead Hades took all the people from the other Gods at the time of their death but not Abraham and his people whom God Almighty had provide a place for him in the place of the dead but seperated them from the dead of the rest of the world and the God of the dead Hades. Abraham's place was called Abraham's Bosom. The inheritance of Abraham after death which included the promise of the Christ and to be included in his Heavenly Inheritance. Till that time they were gathered to Abraham and waiting together with him for the Heir of the Heavenly Inheritance the Promised one to Abraham and in Genesis 3 the seed of the woman the Messiah. With the death of Jesus Christ every thing change. Jesus said all authority has been given to Me and I have the Keys of Death and Hades. The Promised to Abraham was fulfilled and he was in Jesus Christ and the people with him and they were included in Jesus Christ Heavenly Inheritance and the big change Jesus Christ became the Judge of all the people of the earth. The seed of the woman crushed the head of the Serpent. The Serpent lost his authority by default to harvest all the people at the time of their death not Abraham and his children. Jesus Christ now judges all the people of the world and inclusive all who died. The old one two is stopped at the time of Jesus Christ death on the Cross. He took the keys of death and Hades. Death comes to people but Hades is not following ti take them as in the past, Jesus is the one to Judge their eternal place. New system after people die.Jesus Christ is apointed to Judge everyone all authority has been given to him every one will bow down to him. When everyone dies is brought before his Throne and he told us that every one who believes in him is not Judge. They all are co-heirs with him of the Heavenly Inheritance. The believers in him they have a Heavenly Inheritance they have a right to their Heavenly Inheritance. They are in the Life the Eternal Life of Jesus Christ and in the Heavenly Father. 

 

very nicely put.a lovely explanation.