Why many Christian Denominations doubt the divinity of Jesus

[Peelo]

John 14:28 cast doubt on the divinity of Jesus. Apologists have made some weak arguments trying to say that it doesn’t mean what it means.

John 10:30 Jesus is quoted as saying “the father and I are one”. Is this Jesus actually saying that he has Jehovah? 
 

In John 14:28 Jesus is saying that the father is greater than he is.

what do you think? Was Jesus God has many denominations believe Or was he simply a profit as the Muslims believe?

Jehovah’s Witnesses believe Jesus was an angel.

Mormons belief Lucifer and Jesus were brothers and one and the same.

The Jews are still waiting for the Messiah.

Agnostics and atheist do not believe that Jesus of Nazareth actually existed.

This is confusing for a lot of people.
 

 

[Vine Abider]

On 7/16/2024 at 2:46 PM, Peelo said:

John 14:28 cast doubt on the divinity of Jesus. Apologists have made some weak arguments trying to say that it doesn’t mean what it means.

John 10:30 Jesus is quoted as saying “the father and I are one”. Is this Jesus actually saying that he has Jehovah? 
 

In John 14:28 Jesus is saying that the father is greater than he is.

what do you think? Was Jesus God has many denominations believe Or was he simply a profit as the Muslims believe?

Jehovah’s Witnesses believe Jesus was an angel.

Mormons belief Lucifer and Jesus were brothers and one and the same.

The Jews are still waiting for the Messiah.

Agnostics and atheist do not believe that Jesus of Nazareth actually existed.

This is confusing for a lot of people.
 

 

The verse you cite, John 14:28 reads: “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I."  Certainly this is the mystery of the Triune God, which mystery is hard to wrap our finite minds around. But because He is God, He is mysterious to all His creatures.

The eternal God became a finite man to go to the cross, die in our place for our sins, and then demonstrate that He was victorious over the death which plagues us.  And this Perfect Man can now, as the Spirit, get into those ones who believe in Him and thereby regenerate them.

"God in Christ, was reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses against them, and has put in us the word of reconciliation."  2 Cor 5:19

[other one]

On 7/16/2024 at 4:46 PM, Peelo said:

John 14:28 cast doubt on the divinity of Jesus. Apologists have made some weak arguments trying to say that it doesn’t mean what it means.

John 10:30 Jesus is quoted as saying “the father and I are one”. Is this Jesus actually saying that he has Jehovah? 
 

In John 14:28 Jesus is saying that the father is greater than he is.

what do you think? Was Jesus God has many denominations believe Or was he simply a profit as the Muslims believe?

Jehovah’s Witnesses believe Jesus was an angel.

Mormons belief Lucifer and Jesus were brothers and one and the same.

The Jews are still waiting for the Messiah.

Agnostics and atheist do not believe that Jesus of Nazareth actually existed.

This is confusing for a lot of people.
 

 

John tells us that before Jesus took on a human body, he was in the form of God.    John 1:1 tells us that he was God and was with God.  The Geek says he was with "The" God.

Moses Aaron and 72 others went up and saw the God of Israel (Which is Yahweh o Jehovah) and yet Jesus tells us that no one has seen the Father.   So Yahweh was/is not the Father.   Jesus in his pre human form was/is Yahweh (Jehovah).

[Neighbor]

1 hour ago, Vine Abider said:

The eternal God became a finite man to go to the cross, die in our place for our sins, and then demonstrate that He was victorious over the death which plagues us.  And this Perfect Man can now, as the Spirit, get into those ones who believe in Him and thereby regenerate them.

 

Huh? As the Spirit, the Holy Spirit? ???

[other one]

3 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

The eternal God became a finite man to go to the cross, die in our place for our sins, and then demonstrate that He was victorious over the death which plagues us.  And this Perfect Man can now, as the Spirit, get into those ones who believe in Him and thereby regenerate them.

That looks pretty close to denying the trinity.

[enoob57]

On 7/16/2024 at 4:46 PM, Peelo said:

John 14:28 cast doubt on the divinity of Jesus. Apologists have made some weak arguments trying to say that it doesn’t mean what it means.

John 10:30 Jesus is quoted as saying “the father and I are one”. Is this Jesus actually saying that he has Jehovah? 
 

In John 14:28 Jesus is saying that the father is greater than he is.

what do you think? Was Jesus God has many denominations believe Or was he simply a profit as the Muslims believe?

Jehovah’s Witnesses believe Jesus was an angel.

Mormons belief Lucifer and Jesus were brothers and one and the same.

The Jews are still waiting for the Messiah.

Agnostics and atheist do not believe that Jesus of Nazareth actually existed.

This is confusing for a lot of people.
 

 

all is needed is to know God's Word and it all becomes crystal clear...

[In the Clouds]

At Peelo:  If they doubt Jesus, they are not Christians.

[Neighbor]

On 7/16/2024 at 5:46 PM, Peelo said:

John 10:30 Jesus is quoted as saying “the father and I are one”. Is this Jesus actually saying that he has Jehovah? 
 

Hi all,

May I first state that  removing a phrase from it's immediate context to make a point is folly at best. Complete sentences and entire epistles are required to make faithful conclusions about what  has been written under inspiration of God. 

There appears to be little  good fruit that may come to come from stating many denominations do not believe that Jesus is divine, and then mentioning non Christian organizations as reference of that assertion, without naming any Christian denomination or even any Christian group that has made made such assertions.

 The thread's opening post seems fallacious to me. So much so that I do have question as to what is it's intent; and ask what good fruit might one expect to gain  from such  a question? 

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As for myself I declare:

God is triune in nature.

God is not a changeling. Nor is Jesus a prophet.

Jesus (Yeshua) is God the son, He is not God the Father, He is not God the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is not God the Father and is not God the Son nor a mere attribute of either.

God the Father is not God the Son, nor God the Holy Spirit.

God the Son has left  those Given to Him by God the Father God the Holy Spirit  as  the comforter of all those foreknown and predestined to be with God, Father Son and Holy Spirit,  for eternity to come.

God does not change from one to another as a changeling. God is always three persons and always  one God.

[Truswell]

On 7/16/2024 at 10:46 PM, Peelo said:

John 14:28 cast doubt on the divinity of Jesus. Apologists have made some weak arguments trying to say that it doesn’t mean what it means.

John 10:30 Jesus is quoted as saying “the father and I are one”. Is this Jesus actually saying that he has Jehovah? 
 

In John 14:28 Jesus is saying that the father is greater than he is.

what do you think? Was Jesus God has many denominations believe Or was he simply a profit as the Muslims believe?

Jehovah’s Witnesses believe Jesus was an angel.

Mormons belief Lucifer and Jesus were brothers and one and the same.

The Jews are still waiting for the Messiah.

Agnostics and atheist do not believe that Jesus of Nazareth actually existed.

This is confusing for a lot of people.
 

 

There are so many cults who come on the Christian forums, not so many these days though. I used to take them seriously, believing them to be genuine, but now I tend to ignore them. 

[Vine Abider]

5 hours ago, other one said:

That looks pretty close to denying the trinity.

In what way?  Please tell me more.