USA Presidential Politics Kennedy Campaign

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4 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Hi, I once doubted that  Johnson could win over Goldwater. I watched a shoe in George H. W.  Bush just up 'n lose interest  in the middle of a campaign and fail to get re-elected.  

In the past couple decades I have seen some really weird stuff including;  winning candidate coming up with fewer popular votes than the loser Trump's win  over Rodham-Clinton, and a State recount ended by Florida State Attorney General Bondi ( W. Bush over Gore).

I have seen ballots changed by review with the explanation that no one would intentionally vote that way, and so  ballots were changed by reviewers of them. Mine likely being one that would have been changed by reviewers  in the hanging chad election year. Talk about feeling robbed!

Never know what is coming next. As Senator Alan Simpson (Wyoming) used to say;  "Politics  isn't bean bag!" Fortunately USA politics is but vapors of the moment too. Our hope is always certain, when placed in the faith of Jesus, win or lose in politics of the moment.

You have a point. And your last sentence describes the best policy 

[Neighbor]

1 hour ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

I dislike this whole key state shenanigans.  I don't think our founding fathers ever intended for certain key states to  be the deciding factor on who becomes president.  It seems the original intent was that every state have an equal say so in who becomes president and you would have to win over the majority of states to become president not just key states with the most delegates.  Now we have Presidents that only campaign in key states that have the most delegates instead of trying to appeal to all states.

As I remember it  the founders had the loser of the presidential contest became the vice president and only white male real  estate  property owners could vote at all.  The election of president  of the USA was never a direct popular vote, but  instead has been a vote  for representatives ( electors) by  districts all based upon population scattered throughout the then States.Senators were picked by whatever means each individual state chose. Didn't have to be by  popular vote selection at all. and Representative were voted on  y districts formulated and based upon population. Populous States had  more representatives than less populous States same as today, but each State had  two senators regardless of population same as today. White male property owner voters also  had votes based upon the number of slaves they owned. 

Been a few changes along the line hasn't there? again as I remember the system was established o prevent the "tyranny  of the majority over the minority; making  the USA a republic rather than a democracy.

See really fun stuff at  https://electoralcollegeinfo.org/59-presidential-elections/ George Washing ran uncontested getting 69 electoral votes the first time and  132 the second time. Been some fun  and quirky stuff in 59 elections of presidents.AMAZINGLY  the nation has survived it all! Though I suspect each one was billed as the election that would change the course of  or even end the  future history of the union. Seems God has blessed in spite of us.

[Jedi4Yahweh]

19 hours ago, Neighbor said:

As I remember it  the founders had the loser of the presidential contest became the vice president and only white male real  estate  property owners could vote at all.  The election of president  of the USA was never a direct popular vote, but  instead has been a vote  for representatives ( electors) by  districts all based upon population scattered throughout the then States.Senators were picked by whatever means each individual state chose. Didn't have to be by  popular vote selection at all. and Representative were voted on  y districts formulated and based upon population. Populous States had  more representatives than less populous States same as today, but each State had  two senators regardless of population same as today. White male property owner voters also  had votes based upon the number of slaves they owned. 

Been a few changes along the line hasn't there? again as I remember the system was established o prevent the "tyranny  of the majority over the minority; making  the USA a republic rather than a democracy.

See really fun stuff at  https://electoralcollegeinfo.org/59-presidential-elections/ George Washing ran uncontested getting 69 electoral votes the first time and  132 the second time. Been some fun  and quirky stuff in 59 elections of presidents.AMAZINGLY  the nation has survived it all! Though I suspect each one was billed as the election that would change the course of  or even end the  future history of the union. Seems God has blessed in spite of us.

United States is a constitutional republic and not based on a popular vote like some democracy's.  This is in favor of minority groups.  Having an elector college that is based on population size turns the const republic back into popularity contest/popular vote that undermines a constitutional republic.

Edited August 25, 2024 by Jedi4Yahweh

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People don't elect presidents, states do.  Our votes basically tell our state who to vote for.