I believe I was wrong about George Washington

[BlindSeeker]

9 hours ago, other one said:

The pastors of the churches that George participated said that he never took communion.  And when he was kind of pushed about it, they said he stopped going to church on the Sundays when communion was taken.

I wasn't there, but I don't know why the pastor would write that.

There is record stating that he did, with many witnesses. Here's an account given in "George Washington the Christian," chapter 6 -

"During his sojourn at Morristown, New Jersey, in the winter of 1777, Washington had been severely tried. A scourge of smallpox, the prevalence of other fatal diseases, the privations and sufferings of the soldiers, frequent desertions and Washington himself seriously ill with quinsy sore throat, when his death seemed imminent- these were the causes of a depression of spirit on the part of the Commander-in-chief, which only appeal (as he came at last to realize) to a higher than merely human power could adequately relieve. To that higher power, Washington, like many before and since, turned in his extremity for support and consolation. "It was, presumably, while experiencing the depression of spirit con- sequent upon the suggested multiplicity of difficulties confronting him, that the Commander- in-chief, one morning, after his accustomed daily inspection of camp at Lowantica Valley (now Spring Valley), called upon Parson Johnes' at his home. These two men were no strangers to each other; neither was this the initial visit to the Presbyterian parsonage of the Commander of the American army, encamped at the country seat of Morris. Association in the work of devising means and methods for the control of the smallpox and other diseases in the army and in the village; occasional, and perhaps frequent, attendance upon religious services conducted on Sunday by the beloved pastor of the only Presbyterian church then in Morristown; and associ- ation, also, in the important deliberations at the Presbyterian parsonage of the New Jersey Coun- cil of Safety, in which both Washington and Dr. Johnes had participated, had doubtless resulted in a mutual acquaintance of these two men, which had ripened into a friendship of no ordinary character."

 

https://pcmorristown.org/about/our-history/

 

However, there did come a time where it appears he constrained near the end of his life. But that simply may be simply that it was not recorded as there were other times where it was duly noted.

[Michael37]

9 hours ago, Ray12614 said:

it was veiled in an ceremonial phrases like 'Mettda Be' over and over (I am spelling it like it was chanted).

"So mote it be".

“So mote it be” is a ritual phrase that means “so may it be” or “so it is required.” It is often used at the end of prayers or rituals, similar to saying "Amen"¹². This phrase has historical roots in Freemasonry and Rosicrucianism and has been adopted by Neopagan traditions, including Wicca¹².

In Freemasonry, it signifies the conclusion of a prayer or a statement of intent, emphasizing the solemnity and importance of the words spoken². Neopagans use it in a similar way to affirm the desired outcome of their rituals and spells². [Copilot]

[BlindSeeker]

8 hours ago, other one said:

 

Yes, these are the things that has gripped my concerns. I am very aware of all this, as well as the connection between Lucis Trust, previously Lucifer Trust founded by Alice Bailey) and the UN. That too is a bottomless pit of evil.

[BlindSeeker]

8 hours ago, Mr. M said:

To not pass judgment on any man, but to speak by observation,

it behooves leaders to be a Christian as a leader of Christians.

It may be wrong to compare Washington to modern politicians

who pander to a constituency to get elected. For me the 

real question for any Christian is not "am I or is he or she 

a 'real' Christian", but has our life brought glory to Christ?

Did the American Revolution bring glory to God?

And what is your opinion about the revolution? Was God behind it?

 

Edited September 2, 2024 by BlindSeeker

[Mr. M]

15 minutes ago, BlindSeeker said:

And what is your opinion about the revolution? Was God behind it?

 

I would defer to our British Brethren's answer.

[other one]

59 minutes ago, BlindSeeker said:

Yes, these are the things that has gripped my concerns. I am very aware of all this, as well as the connection between Lucis Trust, previously Lucifer Trust founded by Alice Bailey) and the UN. That too is a bottomless pit of evil.

Read "Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow" for a good history of that.  Constance did an excellent job on that book and the updated version.

[other one]

1 hour ago, BlindSeeker said:

There is record stating that he did, with many witnesses. Here's an account given in "George Washington the Christian," chapter 6 -

"During his sojourn at Morristown, New Jersey, in the winter of 1777, Washington had been severely tried. A scourge of smallpox, the prevalence of other fatal diseases, the privations and sufferings of the soldiers, frequent desertions and Washington himself seriously ill with quinsy sore throat, when his death seemed imminent- these were the causes of a depression of spirit on the part of the Commander-in-chief, which only appeal (as he came at last to realize) to a higher than merely human power could adequately relieve. To that higher power, Washington, like many before and since, turned in his extremity for support and consolation. "It was, presumably, while experiencing the depression of spirit con- sequent upon the suggested multiplicity of difficulties confronting him, that the Commander- in-chief, one morning, after his accustomed daily inspection of camp at Lowantica Valley (now Spring Valley), called upon Parson Johnes' at his home. These two men were no strangers to each other; neither was this the initial visit to the Presbyterian parsonage of the Commander of the American army, encamped at the country seat of Morris. Association in the work of devising means and methods for the control of the smallpox and other diseases in the army and in the village; occasional, and perhaps frequent, attendance upon religious services conducted on Sunday by the beloved pastor of the only Presbyterian church then in Morristown; and associ- ation, also, in the important deliberations at the Presbyterian parsonage of the New Jersey Coun- cil of Safety, in which both Washington and Dr. Johnes had participated, had doubtless resulted in a mutual acquaintance of these two men, which had ripened into a friendship of no ordinary character."

 

https://pcmorristown.org/about/our-history/

 

However, there did come a time where it appears he constrained near the end of his life. But that simply may be simply that it was not recorded as there were other times where it was duly noted.

Where does it say he participated in communion?  He attended church most of the time in one of two places.

[Ray12614]

15 hours ago, Michael37 said:

"So mote it be".

“So mote it be” is a ritual phrase that means “so may it be” or “so it is required.” It is often used at the end of prayers or rituals, similar to saying "Amen"¹². This phrase has historical roots in Freemasonry and Rosicrucianism and has been adopted by Neopagan traditions, including Wicca¹².

In Freemasonry, it signifies the conclusion of a prayer or a statement of intent, emphasizing the solemnity and importance of the words spoken². Neopagans use it in a similar way to affirm the desired outcome of their rituals and spells². [Copilot]

Ahhh . . . so that is what they were saying . . . . it was just creepy at best and very darkish hearing it . . . 

Thanks for clarifying!

 

[BlindSeeker]

17 hours ago, Mr. M said:

I would defer to our British Brethren's answer.

Was it too much to type? Or did you ask them to join the thread?

 

 

[BlindSeeker]

16 hours ago, other one said:

Where does it say he participated in communion?  He attended church most of the time in one of two places.

I gave you a quote from the book, I recommend you research it yourself... you know, "prove all things."