Is God Still Speaking Thru Prophets Today to Steer the Nations?

[BornAgain490]

50 minutes ago, tatwo said:

This is really where this conversation was to go…thank you BornAgain490 for your “iron sharpens iron” attitude. I am not convinced that I can produce an adequate answer for you here…it depends on what you are looking for. I say this simply because spiritual Truth requires spiritual revelation…”Word” from the Lord Yahshua directly.

All the “isms” as you aptly named them…are largely designed to distract and devalue the believer, and to elevate the purveyor…none of which is Kingdom of God behavior and practice. I have noticed that a large number of those who disseminate these “isms” claim to be “scripture only” people...they are deceivers.

It’s true that anyone who can read…can read the bible and typically understand the words therein. Have you ever thought about the fact that until say…the last 150 -200 years illiteracy rates globally were well above 90% in most nations…though there were a few nations who fared better?

How did the “Word of God” travel among the multitudes of nations and peoples where the overwhelming constituency was illiterate?  It was via “Theopneustos words”…yeh…still is…and that is where I am going with this…Spirit of God inspired words have always revealed the presence, will and desires of our God the Father of creation to His people BornAgain490. One must have His Spirit to interpret.

The scriptures are God breathed…from the Spirit of God to the writers…all they did was record it…words on paper or parchment. Most have forgotten this and the simply trust in their ability to read and understand words on paper…claiming that know the mind of God.

Paul called the “words on stone the ministry of death” 2^nd Corinthians 3:7. It was never to be a focus about the “written word” brother…it was always about the “Spirit breathed Word”…the living active Word of God.

So…the words of scripture are the words the writers penned well enough…however the interpretation of those words only comes to the minds of men via the Holy Spirit of the living God who breathed the words…and then only if He is residing in the spirit of the man who is reading them.

I am not aware of any “isms” in the bible…man did that…and the dangerous element is that there is some truth in  those “isms”…enough to deceive the spiritual child as Paul wrote.

If you have the Holy Spirit BornAgain490…go over the post about the work of the 5 graces with the Lord Himself…yeh…ask Him to guide your spirit…develop that imitate “Father to Son” relationship He longs for with you…if I can be of any assistance let me know I am open to it. Thank you for this opportunity…may the peace of God rest upon your soul.

Tatwo...:)

 

An ism simply refers to a distinctive belief in something. 

Of the isms I mentioned earlier, the people who teach those isms all claim to be Bible believing Christians.  Are you saying that they're all deceived because of their particular beliefs?

I appreciate your response. 

Can you give me the name of just one modern day prophet and the title of his ministry?  

Thanks for the dialogue. 

Blessings 

[WilliamL]

On 9/19/2024 at 5:44 PM, enoob57 said:

William you may not be aware but Revelation lays out what exactly is sealed:

Revelation 1:19 (KJV) ¹⁹Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;

William this covers what Revelation time periods are. It is past, present and future and that is what is sealed at the end of this book!

Thank you, I am perfectly aware of this verse. It is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

This passage is relevant to the topic:

Rev. 11:3 And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

So God has by no means finished speaking through "His servants the prophets."

[WilliamL]

On 9/21/2024 at 11:59 AM, BornAgain490 said:

What new prophecies can you point to that are not mentioned in the Bible, but have been announced by others, that have come to pass or are prophesied to come?  And kindly name them who have made those non-biblical prophecies? 

The prophetic vision received by George Washington at Valley Forge immediately comes to mind. 2/3 of it has been fulfilled, the last third likely to be fulfilled soon.

On a more mundane level, anyone who has been a Spirit-filled believer for any length of time has seen many personal prophecies fulfilled, both their own and of other believers. (Such as the prophecies by Agabus in NT times.) Have you never ever experienced or witnessed anything like this? If not, I really would wonder about whether you have been infilled with the Holy Spirit.

[BornAgain490]

2 hours ago, WilliamL said:

The prophetic vision received by George Washington at Valley Forge immediately comes to mind. 2/3 of it has been fulfilled, the last third likely to be fulfilled soon.

On a more mundane level, anyone who has been a Spirit-filled believer for any length of time has seen many personal prophecies fulfilled, both their own and of other believers. (Such as the prophecies by Agabus in NT times.) Have you never ever experienced or witnessed anything like this? If not, I really would wonder about whether you have been infilled with the Holy Spirit.

Hello William,

Re: The Prophetic Vision of Washington. 

Are you referring to the account written by Charles Wesley Alexander?

[warrior12]

36 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

Hello William,

Re: The Prophetic Vision of Washington. 

Are you referring to the account written by Charles Wesley Alexander?

I just read it, about a page long and can't make any sense of it. Maybe William can explain what it is about and what does the one third left is saying.   Bits and pieces I can, but as a whole nutting,nada. 

[warrior12]

Plain and simple. A person who claim to be a modern day prophet in the sense of fortelling future things, has to be correct every time, for his claim to be valid, and that is for his entire life , cause God does not give false prophecies.    If his claim as a prophet that edifies and uplift the saints, then that is all well and good.  

Satan is also known as the counterfieter, liar and a whole other bunch.   He causes strife, enmity and confusion.  So, the saints has to be weary and search out truths.

Having said that, the spirit world is real and God can call any man to do his work, in ways that he chooses.  Every one who make claims of a prophet, only him knows what he is saying is true or false, then he will give his account on that day. 

Edited September 25, 2024 by warrior12

[enoob57]

Because God has said Scripture has thoroughly equipped us in this last time ... tells me that the continuation of the prophetic Word will not happen by His Spirit today!

2 Timothy 3:15 (KJV)

[15] And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

[17] That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Even the practice of such is denying the written Word of God and what it claims...

 

[BornAgain490]

13 hours ago, WilliamL said:

The prophetic vision received by George Washington at Valley Forge immediately comes to mind. 2/3 of it has been fulfilled, the last third likely to be fulfilled soon.

On a more mundane level, anyone who has been a Spirit-filled believer for any length of time has seen many personal prophecies fulfilled, both their own and of other believers. (Such as the prophecies by Agabus in NT times.) Have you never ever experienced or witnessed anything like this? If not, I really would wonder about whether you have been infilled with the Holy Spirit.

Hello again William, 

The reason I asked whether the piece on Washington's Vision you refer to was that which was written by Charles Wesley Alexander, who died in 1927, it's because Wesley's story is complete fiction. A nice little allegory, like Herman Mellvilles "Billy Budd, Sailor", but an allegorical writing entirely made up in the mind of Wesley.  

You made an allegation against me, and I forgive you for it.  I know I'm born again and have the indwelling Holy Spirit, because I I'm able to discern truth from lies. 

Since you mistook a fictional allegorical account as prophecy from God, which was written near one-hundred years after the Revolutionary War, I suggest that, if you are born of the Spirit, that you do your due diligence before calling prophetic that which is clearly fictional. 

Be blessed 

[tatwo]

On 9/21/2024 at 5:54 PM, BornAgain490 said:

An ism simply refers to a distinctive belief in something.

From my experience and understanding…all of the above hold a modicum of Truth…and the rest is mans wisdom.

On 9/21/2024 at 5:54 PM, BornAgain490 said:

Of the isms I mentioned earlier, the people who teach those isms all claim to be Bible believing Christians.  Are you saying that they're all deceived because of their particular beliefs?

Again you have pressed in on an important subject and subsequently required the appropriate response. I will do the best of my ability here…the difference between the “natural and spiritual” realms is visibility of the natural human experience…versus the invisibility of the spiritual human experience…the difference really begins with faith in the blood of the Lamb of God.

What I am trying to reveal to you BornAgain490…is the “living and active Word of God” that you referenced early on in our discussion…“Theopneustos words”…they were not only for the prophets of the Old Covenant…the God of those prophets…as promised…came to earth in the form of a man…most call Him the Lord Yahshua Christ…He was the fullness of the godhead in bodily form…God manifest in the flesh.

Eternal God incarnate…in the form of a man called “Jesus” [Yahshua to me] came into this existence to show His sons [the Body for the Head or a submitted Bride for the Groom] a pattern of how He would like them/us to live. Our glorious Lord Yahshua came to reveal His Father…so He could be touched, loved, experienced, worshiped…as Father…He only did what His Father did, and spoke what His Father spoke.

When He had offered the perfect sacrifice [His life]…acceptable to His Father…His Father accepted it and resurrected Him from the dead. He came back…brought some other “resurrected” people with Him…hung out around town for 40 days before His ascension…told His disciples to go to Jerusalem and wait for the promise that He had told them of His Father…being “filled with power” from on high…in other words…the eternal life of Christ.

They were faithful…they went…they waited…and they were rewarded for their obedience. They received the Holy Spirit…which is nothing less than the glorified Christ Himself…into their human spirits.

Yes…the eternal God in Christ…came to indwell humanity…the Holy Spirit is nothing less than our Lord Yahshua in Spirit…living in those…who by faith have received Him as God and the Holy Spirit.

Anyone who denies this…that Jesus Christ is God….living as the Holy Spirit in His human temple on earth...and yet proclaims they are of Christ…is deceived…the “isms” none of the can change that.

Tatwo...:)

[tatwo]

On 9/21/2024 at 5:54 PM, BornAgain490 said:

Can you give me the name of just one modern day prophet and the title of his ministry?

Two parts…first part…yes as a matter of fact I could…and apostles as well. As for the second part…why?

Do you know of any? If you do not know any true Holy Spirit filled "prophets" it is likely a lack of grace for that truth. If I am correct in this...my giving you any names would not be beneficial to any one. They are openly known in the temple of God...for they are spiritually discerned...not physically revealed.

Tatwo...:)