Is God Still Speaking Thru Prophets Today to Steer the Nations?

[BornAgain490]

34 minutes ago, tatwo said:

Two parts…first part…yes as a matter of fact I could…and apostles as well. As for the second part…why?

Do you know of any? If you do not know any true Holy Spirit filled "prophets" it is likely a lack of grace for that truth. If I am correct in this...my giving you any names would not be beneficial to any one. They are openly known in the temple of God...for they are spiritually discerned...not physically revealed.

Tatwo...:)

What you said here is just another way of saying you don't know any modern day prophets, accordingly you have no names. 

I know I'm Spirit-filled. It's why I share the Gospel of Jesus Christ, because I know Jesus Christ is the cure for everything that ails man.  And I know that another Spirit-filled man or woman, who claims to know a modern day prophet that receives prophets revelations from God for this age we are in, would not hesitate to give the name of the so-called prophet and the name of his ministry, because both would be edifying if it were true .  But if that Spirit-filled brother or sister refuses to reveal the name and ministry of said prophet, then there is no way to test whether the so-called prophets is of God  

So, again I ask, if you are indeed a truly Spirit-filled brother in Christ, share with us all the name of just one modern  day prophet and his ministry so that we may test to see whether this so-called modern day prophet is of God. 

If you don't, you've proven you can't and you've shown your true colors. 

[missmuffet]

On 9/18/2024 at 3:47 AM, enoob57 said:

There is no more prophecy as God's Word is sealed ...

Revelation 22:18 (KJV)

[18] For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

[19] And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

 

 

Yes, if the purpose of a prophet was to reveal truth from God, why would we need prophets if we have the completed revelation from God in the Bible?

[tatwo]

3 hours ago, BornAgain490 said:

What you said here is just another way of saying you don't know any modern day prophets, accordingly you have no names. 

That is technically an accusation based upon your own emotion and desire…I have not lied to you and I have no intention of ever lying to you or anyone BornAgain490.

3 hours ago, BornAgain490 said:

I know I'm Spirit-filled. It's why I share the Gospel of Jesus Christ, because I know Jesus Christ is the cure for everything that ails man.

I’ll take you at your word…

3 hours ago, BornAgain490 said:

And I know that another Spirit-filled man or woman, who claims to know a modern day prophet that receives prophets revelations from God for this age we are in, would not hesitate to give the name of the so-called prophet and the name of his ministry, because both would be edifying if it were true . 

This is your opinion and you are both entitled and welcome to it. The judgment I use in disclosing anyone’s name…is mine. Additionally I gave you scripture…that if revealed to you by the Holy Spirit and is understood and believed upon by you…would assist in opening your spiritual eyes a bit more perhaps…to the actual work, or manifestation of the modern day prophet that would be identifiable both Scripturally and spiritually…as it is written. The onus is upon you BornAgain490…if you so desire.

3 hours ago, BornAgain490 said:

But if that Spirit-filled brother or sister refuses to reveal the name and ministry of said prophet, then there is no way to test whether the so-called prophets is of God

The prophet’s work is among the Body of Christ…everyday...it is their life. Their effect is upon the house of God so that the “children and sons of God” can continually be conformed to Christ’s image. Not only are they seen, judged and loved in the temple of God by the Body…they are under the charge of the Lord Himself.

This may not be the definition of “modern day prophet” that you use, understand, believe or like however it was written this way…I shared it with you.

Tatwo...:)

[tatwo]

3 hours ago, BornAgain490 said:

So, again I ask, if you are indeed a truly Spirit-filled brother in Christ, share with us all the name of just one modern  day prophet and his ministry so that we may test to see whether this so-called modern day prophet is of God.

Perhaps you do not know a prophet yourself...I am not sure? This I do know there are very few churches today that acknowledge their legitimacy…so of course for those churches and their congregations there is a slim chance of ever seeing a modern New Testament prophet functioning as he is called…by the Lord Yahshua.

If there is no belief in such a thing…for those in that place…they simply won’t see them due to “unbelief”...which is always one's choice. That is exactly what unbelief produces...blindness...non-belief...rejection.

These are all a part of ones choices in this life as I see it.

Tatwo...:)

[tatwo]

3 hours ago, BornAgain490 said:

If you don't, you've proven you can't and you've shown your true colors.

For the record friend…you without having ever met me...have openly accused me of not knowing any modern day prophets and deduced that I have no names. You openly state that if I am a spirit filled person (2 time's no less) I would not hesitate in giving you the name of a “so-called prophet”…another accusation and attempt at some degree of intimidation and a judgment against my character.

You state that if I don’t give you one of my brothers or sisters name…it is because I can’t…and once again accuse me of being something other than what I am…reducing me to whatever is pleasing for you to think.

Accusation...intimidation upon accusation…do you do this to prove your spiritual maturity?

Finally…you have really done very little in working with that which I have given you to assist you in learning and discernment via Scripture and the Holy Spirit…more about the role or function of a prophet today. Perhaps you simply do not believe in them…that would explain you in all of this…I am OK with that…believe as you so desire.

Your perspective…what little I understand of it…seemingly comes from the definition of the Old Testament prophet and you appear to desire to cling to that belief…even though I did briefly explain and show the difference between OT and NT prophets and their functions.

Carry on as you wish BornAgain490…I will no longer burden you with my lies, corrupt character and deception…sorry if I have offended you…forgive me if you are able.

Tatwo...:)

[enoob57]

2 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Yes, if the purpose of a prophet was to reveal truth from God, why would we need prophets if we have the completed revelation from God in the Bible?

That's my contention as well...

[tatwo]

3 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Yes, if the purpose of a prophet was to reveal truth from God, why would we need prophets if we have the completed revelation from God in the Bible?

Greetings missmuffet...

The Scripture is amply complete in its "writing"…no need to argue that.

However the revealing of what is "written"…in its entirety has not yet been completed…though it is rolling out constantly.  "But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase." Daniel 12:4 NASB

Meaning the Lord will not reveal the contents of what He had Daniel “write” until the time they are to be revealed.

For example…can you or anyone on this or any forum reveal the prophetic meaning of the “four living creatures” of Ezekiel or Revelation? How about the “man above the waters” of Daniel.

All of these prophecies are millennia old…they have been “written” for nearly 3000 years…do you have the interpretation of them? Do you know anyone who has? Has this been adequately explained to the Body of Christ?

If you or anyone answers “no, I don’t know or I am not sure” then there…we have an example of what is indeed “written”…that which “we can read and understand at face value of the words on the parchment” and it is not yet revealed because of its intended timing…it’s just an example…there are more.

It will be the prophets who bring them forth and in many cases it is the apostles who unpack the revelation and impart it to the Body of Christ.

Tatwo…

Edited September 27, 2024 by tatwo

[WilliamL]

On 9/25/2024 at 1:59 AM, enoob57 said:

Because God has said Scripture has thoroughly equipped us in this last time ... tells me that the continuation of the prophetic Word will not happen by His Spirit today!

2 Timothy 3:15 (KJV)

[15] And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

[17] That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Even the practice of such is denying the written Word of God and what it claims...

This passage of Paul was written before later-written books of the Bible, but it does/did not deny their veracity. So the same applies for any other post-biblical prophetic word.

However, some people, apparently including you, claim that the compilers of what we now accept as the biblical record were themselves prophetically inspired by God regarding what books they chose, and which ones they left out. This final compilation took place only after the establishment of the Roman Catholic Church -- a dubious source itself of authority. Before that time, different Christian leaders all had their own proposed biblical canons that differed from one another. And then the Codices Sinaiaticus and Alexandrinus, which came after the canon of the 66 books, themselves both had differing canons. From which the Catholicism and Reformationism each derived, in part,  their versions of Apocrypha. So what you accept as being the "official" Bible is based upon the particular religious tradition that you follow. The Ethiopian Church, for example, has 88 books in its canon.

Same for the Jews who compiled their official version of the Tanach. The Qumran sect, as well as other Jewish sources, believed other books, such as the Book of Enoch, were equally as inspired as the 39 books of the Tanach.

[WilliamL]

On 9/25/2024 at 7:56 AM, BornAgain490 said:

Hello again William, 

The reason I asked whether the piece on Washington's Vision you refer to was that which was written by Charles Wesley Alexander, who died in 1927, it's because Wesley's story is complete fiction. A nice little allegory, like Herman Mellvilles "Billy Budd, Sailor", but an allegorical writing entirely made up in the mind of Wesley.  ...

Since you mistook a fictional allegorical account as prophecy from God, which was written near one-hundred years after the Revolutionary War, I suggest that, if you are born of the Spirit, that you do your due diligence before calling prophetic that which is clearly fictional. 

Be blessed 

So you are claiming that inspired revelation has made it known to you that the account was fictional??

And I say, that you will soon, if you live so long, see that this prophetic vision will be fulfilled to its ultimate. But you are welcome to believe otherwise.

You'll be wrong; because part 3 of the vision says appreciably that same thing as was revealed to Isaiah in Isaiah 17, as well as other biblical prophetic passages. See, for example, the following:

89. Joseph, Part 3: A Patriarchal Prophecy of Josephʼs Future    https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2929-joseph-part-3-a-patriarchal-prophecy-of-josephʼs-future/

 

[BornAgain490]

1 hour ago, tatwo said:

For the record friend…you without having ever met me...have openly accused me of not knowing any modern day prophets and deduced that I have no names. You openly state that if I am a spirit filled person (2 time's no less) I would not hesitate in giving you the name of a “so-called prophet”…another accusation and attempt at some degree of intimidation and a judgment against my character.

You state that if I don’t give you one of my brothers or sisters name…it is because I can’t…and once again accuse me of being something other than what I am…reducing me to whatever is pleasing for you to think.

Accusation...intimidation upon accusation…do you do this to prove your spiritual maturity?

Finally…you have really done very little in working with that which I have given you to assist you in learning and discernment via Scripture and the Holy Spirit…more about the role or function of a prophet today. Perhaps you simply do not believe in them…that would explain you in all of this…I am OK with that…believe as you so desire.

Your perspective…what little I understand of it…seemingly comes from the definition of the Old Testament prophet and you appear to desire to cling to that belief…even though I did briefly explain and show the difference between OT and NT prophets and their functions.

Carry on as you wish BornAgain490…I will no longer burden you with my lies, corrupt character and deception…sorry if I have offended you…forgive me if you are able.

Tatwo...:)

All that and no name?  Clearly you jest.