Explaining the the Parenthetical Citation chapters in the Book of Revelation The Chronological Order of the book of Revelation

[Revelation Man]

Rev. 1 is Jesus in all his glory as the eternal redeemer.

Rev. 2 and 3 is the Church Age, so only this part of Revelation covers the 2000 year church age.

Now we come to the main course of what the book of Revelation is all about, the future 70th week, where Jesus raptures his church to heaven for a 7 year wedding chambers wait for a Marriage Supper back on earth, at Armageddon. 

Rev. 4 & 5 go hand in hand, both are the saints/church in heaven (24 Elders) praising God & The Slain Lamb in back to back chapters which happens in the first 3.5 years of the 70th week, but it happens in heaven, not on earth, the Revelation 4:4 and Revelation 5:9-10 verses prove this.

Rev. 6 is Jesus in heaven, before God's Wrath falls at the middle of the 70th week, at the 1260 DOTL event, opening the bound up scroll that has God's Wrath contained in it. A Wax Signet Seal always bound messages, the number seven (7) signifies Divine Completion, as Jesus breaks every Seal, he foretells what will come when the 7th Seal unleashes the Trumpet judgments over in Rev. 8, that is why the 7th seal is over in Rev. 8. This of course happens just before the middle of the weeks 1260 DOTL event.

Rev. 7 is not what most people think, so its a little more detailed. It is a code for all the Jews who repent, and we know Israel repents just before the middle of the week 1260 DOTL event, by reading Zech. 13:8-9, we see the 1/3 repent, then in the very next verse we see the Day of the Lord arrives in Zech. 14:1, then in vs. 2 Jerusalem is conquered, and in vs. 3 Jesus returns 1260 days later, because this all starts in the middle of the week, on day 1260. So, these Jews who repent (the 1/3) must repent just before the DOTL, and we know Elijah is sent back before the DOTL as Malachi 4:5-6 states.

So I have figured out in the last 5 years, via an Exegesis on Dan. 11 & 12, that the 1335 Blessing is the Two-witnesses showing up to get Israel to repent. Then we come to the 1290 event, who is really just the False Prophet, who will be a Jewish High Priest, like unto Jason (real name Yeshua) who betrayed his Jewish brothers under Antiochus Epiphanes IV (AE4), so we had both Archetypes (Anti-Christ & False Prophet) living at the exact same time, which is what the shadow of things to come should be, two men, not one. Jason invited AE4 into the temple to sacrifice a pig unto Zeus, defiling the temple, thus Hanukkah is remembered today because the defiled temple had to be cleansed. Jason then mandated that all Jews become Hellenized (take on Greek culture and serve Greek gods, like he did), leading unto the Maccabean Revolt. 

So, in the end times the False Prophet will do likewise, except he will stop (take away the Sacrifice as Dan. 9:27 says) Jesus worship, and he will then place an image up in the temple, as Rev. 13 clearly states he does, the 2nd Beast gets the people to make an image of the 1st Beast. Most people think the Anti-Christ is the one who does all this at the 1290, but alas, he only comes on the scene 30 days later at the 1260, when the Rev. 8 Asteroid strikes (Wrath of God). The 1st Beast will in my honest opinion be the E.U. President, thus how does he have such a close relationship and so much pull with this Jewish High Priest/False Prophet? And how can he conquer Israel when they have Nukes? Does any thing fit? Of course it fits perfectly. The Agreement, as seen in Daniel 9:27 (Covenant/Agreement) is simply this, the E.U. gets Israel to join the European Union after the Gog & Magog war or just before the Gog war, I think just before because I think this Agreement in Dan. 9:27 angers God, and because they gave His land away, God starts up the 70th week because His anger at Israel is rekindled, and the Rapture happens at the exact same time.

To wrap up this very complicated chapter, the 144,000 are the 1/3, God was never going to give Satan 2000 years to prepare by giving him a true number, so God stated it was 1/3 in Zech. 13:8-9 and 144,000 in the book of Revelation, one was a ratio, the other a code. 12 equals Fulness 10 equals Completeness, so we get God shouting at us this is ALL Israel who repents, 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 means just that, just like the 10 Virgin Brides equals the complete Christendom, the 144,000 Male Virgins equals All Jews who repent, male and females alike. So, reread Rev. 7 now, they are never called Super Preachers, they are said to need protection from the four winds (God's Coming Wrath) so God seals them (gets them sealed via the Holy Spirit like us) and He then protects them from his coming wrath which hurts and burns the earth via the 1/3 burning Trees, the 1/3 Seas and the 1/3 Earth, I see the 1/3 as being where this asteroid hits, in the Pacific Ocean (The whole New World is the 1/3). God's Plagues will hit the Old World in a different way, He wants to preserve the Old World because Jesus will be ruling from Jerusalem for 1000 years. Basically, these 144,000 (5 Million Jews who Flee Judea for the Petra/Bosrah area) are protected by God for 1260 days these are the woman of Rev. 12, these are the ones God says “come out of her unto” (Babylon/Whole World) in Rev. 18:4. So, these Jews who repent are Sealed by the Holy Spirit then protected. Then we get a flash up, we see the Raptured Church in Rev. 7:9-16 just before the Wrath Falls in Rev. 8.

Now the Wrath begins, this chapter starts the 1260 day middle of the 70th week wrath of God. Rev. 8, 9 and 16 covers the Full 1260 days, so I will show those three first, everything else is Parenthetical in nature

Rev. 8 is the 7th seal being taken off, this starts the wrath of God, or DOTL, that is why the 7th seal is over in Rev. 8, and its also why in Rev. 7 God said hold up the four winds (Wrath of God) until we get the 144,000 (5 million Jews) sealed and protected by God Himself. So, the 7th seal had to be held up, until Rev. 7’s mission was completed by the Two-witnesses, this is also why in Rev. 11 John was told to measure the temple, the altar and those who worship therein, only Jews, were to be preach unto by these Two-witnesses, because this is their mission, just like it was Jesus' only mission, the Rapture has passed, the Angel as seen in Rev. 14:6 takes over the mission of preaching the Gospel unto the masses. In Rev. 8 we see the first four Trumps are just one asteroid being spoken about in four different phases. This first phase via Trump #1 is the 1/3 of the trees burning like Sodom burned, because of an asteroid breaking apart in our atmosphere, where sulfur balls will fall onto trees/houses and burn 1/3 of the worlds trees, I see that as a destination point also, the New World. Then in Trump #2 we get the impact, which hits in the Pacific Ocean just off the California/Mexico coastlines, and the Pacific Ocean just so happens to cover 1/3 of the worlds surface overall, hmm, that’s interesting. Then in Trump #3 we get the fallout or Wormwood that poisons the 1/3 fresh waters, or the New Worlds rivers. Then finally in Trump #4 we get the Sun & Moon darkening by 1/3, all over the world. because the smoke gets up in the Jet Streams and goes all around the whole world, of course. Then in vs. 13 it clearly states that the three Trumps yet to come are the three Woes, and only as they are sounded do we get those three Woes.

Rev. 9 is the first two woes. So, the mention of the 2nd Woe and 3rd Woe in Rev. 11 has to be a Parenthetic Citation Chapter. We see in Woe #1 that Apollyon and his hordes are released from the pit, they can not hurt people, but in the 2nd woe those 200 million can kill, I wonder why? I'll offer a thought on that, I think these Demons jobs are to get people to choose, this day whose side they will stand on, they have no power to kill, but they can hurt and maim, so, if you have not taken the mark of the Beast yet they come after you, and if you have not chosen God yet they come after you. So, why do they not just kill them? Satan wants numbers in his army, why would he kill possible future army members? Now, those who chose God he will kill as soon as they do that. These are only those who have not chosen which side they will stand on imho.

In Woe #2 we see the 200 million angels slaying 1/3 of those who have taken the mark of the Beast. Remember, Satan can not kill Satan, Jesus reminded us of this. People miss this because they see the angels bound in the Euphrates river, but its not in the river per se, read carefully, they are bound to a time.........A Day, a Month, a Year and to a season or “time” !! Not in a river per se, just to that part of the world at a certain point in time, at the Euphrates River Basin. We know verses 20-21 says these are plagues and plagues come from God. 

Rev. 15 & 16 are really one chapter, we will mostly talk about Rev. 16, but notice, in Rev. 8 the Trumpets are readied for sounding by the angels, then the trumps are sounded by the angels. In Rev. 15 the angels are readying the Vials to be poured out, then in Rev. 16 the angels actually pour out these bowls of Wrath which finish up God's Wrath, because all wrath comes from the Seven Trumps, the last three are the three Woes. The 7th Trump thus brings the 3rd Woe (remember Rev. 8:13 says so) and thus the 7 Vials are the 3rd Woe. We get the first 5 Vials, then we get a Vial for the ages, everyone thinks it really means God dries up the Euphrates so "Armies can cross" where they can get to Armageddon. But alas, these cowards are too scared to come out of their caves after the first 6 trumps, the two woes which kill 1/3 of those who took the mark of the Beast and the first 5 Vials which were grievous sores, blisters etc. etc. etc. So, what this really is, is that God’s using a metaphor of a great river to show that He will dry up, His wrath (Vials) long enough to allow Satan the Dragon, the False Prophet and the Anti-Christ to entice these evil men to come unto Armageddon via their lies, thus God can end it all in one grand spectacle as Jesus shows up at the 7th Vial to wipe them all out by his voices uttering victory, Amen. But the Euphrates river is really God’s plagues being dried up long enough to give these three entities time to lie, IMHO, they simply do this: The say, LOOK, LOOK, the Two-witnesses have died, it was them who prayed down all these plagues, and they did do that, but they prayed down the 7th Trump just before they died as Rev. 11 says, they died during the 2nd Woe, just before the 3rd Woe comes via the 7th Trump. The liars then tell these wicked men hiding in caves, hey if we go to Jerusalem and kill off every last Jews this will NEVER EVER HAPPEN AGAIN !! Lets Roll. That is when Jesus says "LETS ROLL FOR REAL" and destroys them all, in one place, Armageddon, Amen. 

The rest of the book of Revelation are Parenthetical Citation Chapters

Rev. 10 is now much easier to understand knowing that all of the wrath of God comes out of the seven Trumpet judgments. The 7 Thunders are the 7 Trumps. That is why when the 7th Thunder sounds "Time [as we now know it] will be NO MORE" in other words Satan will be cast into the pit and Jesus will be ruling. Also, now we know why the little book was sweet in John's mouth but very bitter in his stomach. The judgments are needed in order for humans in Christ to move on and live forever in the new Heaven & Earth, but John also knew that billions of human beings would be both killed and judged and thus it was a somber, and a very bitter taste unto John. Look back to the 7th seal, the Heavens were Silent for 30 minutes, IMHO, this shows the same thing, just like it repented God to have to kill all mankind save the 8 in the flood, those in Heaven take no Joy in what these judgments will bring, thus the “silence” represents their somber feelings, like being at a funeral they don't joy in this, but judgment must come to pass, because God is a Righteous Judge. Amen. So, the 7 Thunders simply speak about the 7 Trumpet judgments in full.

Rev. 11 starts 75 days before the middle of the week 1260 DOTL events. Israel has to repent, so the Two-witnesses are sent back 1335 days before the the 2nd coming, ends all these wonders/things as Dan. 12 says. This chapter is only about the 2 witnesses  1260 day ministry on earth, the reason they "die before the Beast dies" at the end of the 2nd Woe, whilst he dies at the 7th Vial, when Jesus returns, is because they show up 1335 days before the 2nd coming while the A.C. only becomes the Beast 1260 days before the 2nd coming. It all adds up via the math because its factual. God gave them both 1260 day Ordained by God offices on earth so we could juxtapose their "TIMELINES" against each other. There is no reason for the Two-witnesses with their Glorious bodies have to even die except to give us these exact timelines. We can thus know the 7th Trump/3rd Woe/7 Vials last for exactly 75 days. Below in chapters 12, 13, 17 and 18 I can show how each parallel exactly with the Rev. 8, 9 and 16’s 1260 days of God’s Wrath. 

Rev. 12 as we know is the Woman (Israel) fleeing from Judea unto the Petra/Bozrah area where God protects them from the Dragon and his Anti-Christ Army for 1260 days, so this covers the full Wrath of God period, starting in Rev. 8, and continuing through Rev. 9 and Rev. 16. Everything revolves around the middle of the week 1260 DOTL or wrath of God (Asteroid falls).

Rev. 13 of course as we know can only cover the Beasts 42 months/1260 days in office as "The Beast". So, just like Rev. 12 this chapters covers the exact same timeframe as Rev. 8, 9 and 16 combined. Its quite simple really, at least to me. He will kill and maim for 1260 days, which brings famine, death, wars, etc. etc. 

Rev. 14 like Rev. 19 is a tad different in nature, it covers the full 7 years of the 70th week, because of a certain flashback Rapture. This is designated as the Harvest Chapter by me, so we need all three harvests, and they happen at different times, so we get a flashback. We see the 144,000 (5 million Jews) awaiting Jesus on the holy mount, but in reality they are in the Petra/Bozrah area, and we know this because Jesus comes unto them with a blood stained white garment on, signifying he's killed the wicked at Armageddon before going to gather them (The Wheat who grows with the tares until the end) into His Fathers barn. They are shown on the holy mount because Israel will rule with Jesus for 1000 years from Jerusalem, Amen. Then in verses 17-20 we see the wicked grapes are judged/killed, these are likened unto the wicked tares. Yes, they will be killed, but they will only be judged 1000 years later and then burned later on, just like the wicked tares are bound to be burned later. So we have two that grew together "until the end" being judged. But in order to get the full perspective on the Harvest Chapter God has to give us the very first "Cinematic Flashback" in history, God then shows us the pre 70th week Rapture of the Church in verse 14, where Jesus himself thrusts in the sickle and harvests the church age believes. That is why I say this Harvest Chapter covers the full 7 years.

Rev. 17 lasts 42 months also, this is God telling us who the Harlot is in big bright lights, she is ALL False Religion of all time, but this story line mainly revolves around the 42 months in which the 10 (E.U.) Kings/Powers (10 = Completion) destroy the Harlot, kill her off, burn her up, but why? Why after eons of the Harlot riding the Beasts back (see vs. 7) do they all of the sudden turn against her? Turn against the Zeus and Jupiter types, and the Islam, Buddhism and Hindu types. Because there is now no place for them because this one man (like Antiochus) considers himself to be the ONLY GOD !! Antiochus however had Rome to deal with and never got to fulfill his deep dark intentions, he however called himself God, as the name implies.

Apollyon is the Scarlet Colored Beast, that's why in Rev. 17 no crowns are spoken of, as in Rev. 12 where the crowns are on the 7 Heads because the Dragon Satan is over all Kingdoms on earth as we saw in Luke 4. Then in Rev. 13 we see the crowns on the 10 horns/kings because the Anti-Christ will be over the E.U. which is a part the 7th Head that the Dragon is also over, along with the A.C. Remember, both Dan. 8 and Rev. 13 says the Dragon/Satan gives him his power !! The MYSTERY is who the Harlot is defined as by three descriptors. MYSTERY is a Header then we get the three descriptors. 

1.) Babylon the Great (She was world renowned for her FALSE RELIGION )

2.) Mother of Harlots (FALSE RELIGION was of course the original Harlotry)

3.) Abominations of the Earth (God is a jealous God and He hates FALSE RELIGION)

So, the Harlot is identified as ALL False Religion of All Time, thus she has the blood of the [Jewish] Saints AND the blood of the Martyrs of Christ on her hands. She is thus on many waters because False Religion is of course all over the whole world. She is Scarlet and Purple because those two colors were very exclusive, one came from rare bugs, the other came from seeds from a rare bush in Egypt, so, only Royal's and Orders of the Priesthood's could afford to wear them, so the Scarlet and Purple reference is God saying the Harlot (FALSE RELIGION ) rides the backs or is comingled with the [Government] Beasts. Its not the RCC per se. She has bad ways now, but the RCC was God's design to take the Gospel unto the whole world via the Pax Romanus System they set up. They were the Beast who received the “mortal wound”, we the Church delivered it unto them, we turned the Beast from a Beast unto a vehicle or conveyor belt that delivered the Gospel unto the whole world. Satan will not over come my Church Jesus said, Amen. 

Rev. 18, Babylon equals the Whole World being judged, not ONE CITY !! This occurs over a 42 month period beginning of course when the Rev. 8 Asteroid makes impact, as does Rev. 17 begin at that time also. We can see in vs. 2 that Babylon (the world) has become a Habitation of devils, well of course she has, Satan is cast down at the exact mid point of the 70th week (1260 events) and Apollyon and his demon hordes are freed from the pit a smidge later at the 1st Woe. In vs. 4 we see God says "Come out of her my people that yo receive not of her plagues and judgments". As I mentioned in the Rev. 7 portion above, that is God telling the Jews who repented to flee from Judea into the Petra/Bozrah area, where God protects them how long? 1260 days !! See how the 1260 is KEY to everything in Revelation? And this is why the 1260 is mentioned in Daniel 12 also. God in verses 8 and 10 then says Babylon (world) will be judged in “one day” and in “one hour”, but how can that be? Well, the Day of the Lord equals 1260 days and the one hour also equals 1260 days. How so? Read Rev. 17:12, the 10 kings rule how long with the Beast? One hour, and we know the Beast rules for 42 months or 1260 days right? See how God always tells us these things if we just listen carefully? The rest of this chapter is mostly just prose, with God foretelling us how the hearts of wicked men who so loved this evil world will cry and lament at her demise and burning, they loved this evil world more than they loved God, and thus they are in terrible straights now. The last 2 or 3 verses also tell that us during this 70th week time the Bride and Groom will be found nowhere on this earth, our light will have left this earth, because we are in Heaven, having married the Lamb, we will then reside in the Fathers wedding chambers for 7 years. 

Rev. 19, like Rev. 14 covers the full 7 years because in Rev. 4:4 we see the Church already has on white raiment/robes and thus Rev. 19 has to happen before Rev. 4:4. Then we the Church return with Jesus in our white robes, which Rev. 19 says is the Righteousness of the Saints. We then are seen at the Marriage Supper on earth (Armageddon) where Jesus destroys the enemies armies by speaking victory like he spoke Creation, Amen. 

Rev. 20, 21 and 22 is the Judgment, Ever after and the New Heaven & New Earth. Amen. 

[Keras]

On 9/24/2024 at 3:40 PM, Revelation Man said:

the future 70th week, where Jesus raptures his church to heaven for a 7 year wedding chambers wait for a Marriage Supper back on earth, at Armageddon. 

Unbelievable and totally unscriptural. 

We Christians will be tested, 1 Peter 4:12 and we will remain on earth until Jesus Returns and be with Him during the Millennium. 

[AdHoc]

On 9/24/2024 at 5:40 AM, Revelation Man said:

Rev. 1 is Jesus in all his glory as the eternal redeemer.

Rev. 2 and 3 is the Church Age, so only this part of Revelation covers the 2000 year church age.

Now we come to the main course of what the book of Revelation is all about, the future 70th week, where Jesus raptures his church to heaven for a 7 year wedding chambers wait for a Marriage Supper back on earth, at Armageddon. 

Rev. 4 & 5 go hand in hand, both are the saints/church in heaven (24 Elders) praising God & The Slain Lamb in back to back chapters which happens in the first 3.5 years of the 70th week, but it happens in heaven, not on earth, the Revelation 4:4 and Revelation 5:9-10 verses prove this.

Rev. 6 is Jesus in heaven, before God's Wrath falls at the middle of the 70th week, at the 1260 DOTL event, opening the bound up scroll that has God's Wrath contained in it. A Wax Signet Seal always bound messages, the number seven (7) signifies Divine Completion, as Jesus breaks every Seal, he foretells what will come when the 7th Seal unleashes the Trumpet judgments over in Rev. 8, that is why the 7th seal is over in Rev. 8. This of course happens just before the middle of the weeks 1260 DOTL event.

Rev. 7 is not what most people think, so its a little more detailed. It is a code for all the Jews who repent, and we know Israel repents just before the middle of the week 1260 DOTL event, by reading Zech. 13:8-9, we see the 1/3 repent, then in the very next verse we see the Day of the Lord arrives in Zech. 14:1, then in vs. 2 Jerusalem is conquered, and in vs. 3 Jesus returns 1260 days later, because this all starts in the middle of the week, on day 1260. So, these Jews who repent (the 1/3) must repent just before the DOTL, and we know Elijah is sent back before the DOTL as Malachi 4:5-6 states.

So I have figured out in the last 5 years, via an Exegesis on Dan. 11 & 12, that the 1335 Blessing is the Two-witnesses showing up to get Israel to repent. Then we come to the 1290 event, who is really just the False Prophet, who will be a Jewish High Priest, like unto Jason (real name Yeshua) who betrayed his Jewish brothers under Antiochus Epiphanes IV (AE4), so we had both Archetypes (Anti-Christ & False Prophet) living at the exact same time, which is what the shadow of things to come should be, two men, not one. Jason invited AE4 into the temple to sacrifice a pig unto Zeus, defiling the temple, thus Hanukkah is remembered today because the defiled temple had to be cleansed. Jason then mandated that all Jews become Hellenized (take on Greek culture and serve Greek gods, like he did), leading unto the Maccabean Revolt. 

So, in the end times the False Prophet will do likewise, except he will stop (take away the Sacrifice as Dan. 9:27 says) Jesus worship, and he will then place an image up in the temple, as Rev. 13 clearly states he does, the 2nd Beast gets the people to make an image of the 1st Beast. Most people think the Anti-Christ is the one who does all this at the 1290, but alas, he only comes on the scene 30 days later at the 1260, when the Rev. 8 Asteroid strikes (Wrath of God). The 1st Beast will in my honest opinion be the E.U. President, thus how does he have such a close relationship and so much pull with this Jewish High Priest/False Prophet? And how can he conquer Israel when they have Nukes? Does any thing fit? Of course it fits perfectly. The Agreement, as seen in Daniel 9:27 (Covenant/Agreement) is simply this, the E.U. gets Israel to join the European Union after the Gog & Magog war or just before the Gog war, I think just before because I think this Agreement in Dan. 9:27 angers God, and because they gave His land away, God starts up the 70th week because His anger at Israel is rekindled, and the Rapture happens at the exact same time.

To wrap up this very complicated chapter, the 144,000 are the 1/3, God was never going to give Satan 2000 years to prepare by giving him a true number, so God stated it was 1/3 in Zech. 13:8-9 and 144,000 in the book of Revelation, one was a ratio, the other a code. 12 equals Fulness 10 equals Completeness, so we get God shouting at us this is ALL Israel who repents, 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 means just that, just like the 10 Virgin Brides equals the complete Christendom, the 144,000 Male Virgins equals All Jews who repent, male and females alike. So, reread Rev. 7 now, they are never called Super Preachers, they are said to need protection from the four winds (God's Coming Wrath) so God seals them (gets them sealed via the Holy Spirit like us) and He then protects them from his coming wrath which hurts and burns the earth via the 1/3 burning Trees, the 1/3 Seas and the 1/3 Earth, I see the 1/3 as being where this asteroid hits, in the Pacific Ocean (The whole New World is the 1/3). God's Plagues will hit the Old World in a different way, He wants to preserve the Old World because Jesus will be ruling from Jerusalem for 1000 years. Basically, these 144,000 (5 Million Jews who Flee Judea for the Petra/Bosrah area) are protected by God for 1260 days these are the woman of Rev. 12, these are the ones God says “come out of her unto” (Babylon/Whole World) in Rev. 18:4. So, these Jews who repent are Sealed by the Holy Spirit then protected. Then we get a flash up, we see the Raptured Church in Rev. 7:9-16 just before the Wrath Falls in Rev. 8.

Now the Wrath begins, this chapter starts the 1260 day middle of the 70th week wrath of God. Rev. 8, 9 and 16 covers the Full 1260 days, so I will show those three first, everything else is Parenthetical in nature

Rev. 8 is the 7th seal being taken off, this starts the wrath of God, or DOTL, that is why the 7th seal is over in Rev. 8, and its also why in Rev. 7 God said hold up the four winds (Wrath of God) until we get the 144,000 (5 million Jews) sealed and protected by God Himself. So, the 7th seal had to be held up, until Rev. 7’s mission was completed by the Two-witnesses, this is also why in Rev. 11 John was told to measure the temple, the altar and those who worship therein, only Jews, were to be preach unto by these Two-witnesses, because this is their mission, just like it was Jesus' only mission, the Rapture has passed, the Angel as seen in Rev. 14:6 takes over the mission of preaching the Gospel unto the masses. In Rev. 8 we see the first four Trumps are just one asteroid being spoken about in four different phases. This first phase via Trump #1 is the 1/3 of the trees burning like Sodom burned, because of an asteroid breaking apart in our atmosphere, where sulfur balls will fall onto trees/houses and burn 1/3 of the worlds trees, I see that as a destination point also, the New World. Then in Trump #2 we get the impact, which hits in the Pacific Ocean just off the California/Mexico coastlines, and the Pacific Ocean just so happens to cover 1/3 of the worlds surface overall, hmm, that’s interesting. Then in Trump #3 we get the fallout or Wormwood that poisons the 1/3 fresh waters, or the New Worlds rivers. Then finally in Trump #4 we get the Sun & Moon darkening by 1/3, all over the world. because the smoke gets up in the Jet Streams and goes all around the whole world, of course. Then in vs. 13 it clearly states that the three Trumps yet to come are the three Woes, and only as they are sounded do we get those three Woes.

Rev. 9 is the first two woes. So, the mention of the 2nd Woe and 3rd Woe in Rev. 11 has to be a Parenthetic Citation Chapter. We see in Woe #1 that Apollyon and his hordes are released from the pit, they can not hurt people, but in the 2nd woe those 200 million can kill, I wonder why? I'll offer a thought on that, I think these Demons jobs are to get people to choose, this day whose side they will stand on, they have no power to kill, but they can hurt and maim, so, if you have not taken the mark of the Beast yet they come after you, and if you have not chosen God yet they come after you. So, why do they not just kill them? Satan wants numbers in his army, why would he kill possible future army members? Now, those who chose God he will kill as soon as they do that. These are only those who have not chosen which side they will stand on imho.

In Woe #2 we see the 200 million angels slaying 1/3 of those who have taken the mark of the Beast. Remember, Satan can not kill Satan, Jesus reminded us of this. People miss this because they see the angels bound in the Euphrates river, but its not in the river per se, read carefully, they are bound to a time.........A Day, a Month, a Year and to a season or “time” !! Not in a river per se, just to that part of the world at a certain point in time, at the Euphrates River Basin. We know verses 20-21 says these are plagues and plagues come from God. 

Rev. 15 & 16 are really one chapter, we will mostly talk about Rev. 16, but notice, in Rev. 8 the Trumpets are readied for sounding by the angels, then the trumps are sounded by the angels. In Rev. 15 the angels are readying the Vials to be poured out, then in Rev. 16 the angels actually pour out these bowls of Wrath which finish up God's Wrath, because all wrath comes from the Seven Trumps, the last three are the three Woes. The 7th Trump thus brings the 3rd Woe (remember Rev. 8:13 says so) and thus the 7 Vials are the 3rd Woe. We get the first 5 Vials, then we get a Vial for the ages, everyone thinks it really means God dries up the Euphrates so "Armies can cross" where they can get to Armageddon. But alas, these cowards are too scared to come out of their caves after the first 6 trumps, the two woes which kill 1/3 of those who took the mark of the Beast and the first 5 Vials which were grievous sores, blisters etc. etc. etc. So, what this really is, is that God’s using a metaphor of a great river to show that He will dry up, His wrath (Vials) long enough to allow Satan the Dragon, the False Prophet and the Anti-Christ to entice these evil men to come unto Armageddon via their lies, thus God can end it all in one grand spectacle as Jesus shows up at the 7th Vial to wipe them all out by his voices uttering victory, Amen. But the Euphrates river is really God’s plagues being dried up long enough to give these three entities time to lie, IMHO, they simply do this: The say, LOOK, LOOK, the Two-witnesses have died, it was them who prayed down all these plagues, and they did do that, but they prayed down the 7th Trump just before they died as Rev. 11 says, they died during the 2nd Woe, just before the 3rd Woe comes via the 7th Trump. The liars then tell these wicked men hiding in caves, hey if we go to Jerusalem and kill off every last Jews this will NEVER EVER HAPPEN AGAIN !! Lets Roll. That is when Jesus says "LETS ROLL FOR REAL" and destroys them all, in one place, Armageddon, Amen. 

The rest of the book of Revelation are Parenthetical Citation Chapters

Rev. 10 is now much easier to understand knowing that all of the wrath of God comes out of the seven Trumpet judgments. The 7 Thunders are the 7 Trumps. That is why when the 7th Thunder sounds "Time [as we now know it] will be NO MORE" in other words Satan will be cast into the pit and Jesus will be ruling. Also, now we know why the little book was sweet in John's mouth but very bitter in his stomach. The judgments are needed in order for humans in Christ to move on and live forever in the new Heaven & Earth, but John also knew that billions of human beings would be both killed and judged and thus it was a somber, and a very bitter taste unto John. Look back to the 7th seal, the Heavens were Silent for 30 minutes, IMHO, this shows the same thing, just like it repented God to have to kill all mankind save the 8 in the flood, those in Heaven take no Joy in what these judgments will bring, thus the “silence” represents their somber feelings, like being at a funeral they don't joy in this, but judgment must come to pass, because God is a Righteous Judge. Amen. So, the 7 Thunders simply speak about the 7 Trumpet judgments in full.

Rev. 11 starts 75 days before the middle of the week 1260 DOTL events. Israel has to repent, so the Two-witnesses are sent back 1335 days before the the 2nd coming, ends all these wonders/things as Dan. 12 says. This chapter is only about the 2 witnesses  1260 day ministry on earth, the reason they "die before the Beast dies" at the end of the 2nd Woe, whilst he dies at the 7th Vial, when Jesus returns, is because they show up 1335 days before the 2nd coming while the A.C. only becomes the Beast 1260 days before the 2nd coming. It all adds up via the math because its factual. God gave them both 1260 day Ordained by God offices on earth so we could juxtapose their "TIMELINES" against each other. There is no reason for the Two-witnesses with their Glorious bodies have to even die except to give us these exact timelines. We can thus know the 7th Trump/3rd Woe/7 Vials last for exactly 75 days. Below in chapters 12, 13, 17 and 18 I can show how each parallel exactly with the Rev. 8, 9 and 16’s 1260 days of God’s Wrath. 

Rev. 12 as we know is the Woman (Israel) fleeing from Judea unto the Petra/Bozrah area where God protects them from the Dragon and his Anti-Christ Army for 1260 days, so this covers the full Wrath of God period, starting in Rev. 8, and continuing through Rev. 9 and Rev. 16. Everything revolves around the middle of the week 1260 DOTL or wrath of God (Asteroid falls).

Rev. 13 of course as we know can only cover the Beasts 42 months/1260 days in office as "The Beast". So, just like Rev. 12 this chapters covers the exact same timeframe as Rev. 8, 9 and 16 combined. Its quite simple really, at least to me. He will kill and maim for 1260 days, which brings famine, death, wars, etc. etc. 

Rev. 14 like Rev. 19 is a tad different in nature, it covers the full 7 years of the 70th week, because of a certain flashback Rapture. This is designated as the Harvest Chapter by me, so we need all three harvests, and they happen at different times, so we get a flashback. We see the 144,000 (5 million Jews) awaiting Jesus on the holy mount, but in reality they are in the Petra/Bozrah area, and we know this because Jesus comes unto them with a blood stained white garment on, signifying he's killed the wicked at Armageddon before going to gather them (The Wheat who grows with the tares until the end) into His Fathers barn. They are shown on the holy mount because Israel will rule with Jesus for 1000 years from Jerusalem, Amen. Then in verses 17-20 we see the wicked grapes are judged/killed, these are likened unto the wicked tares. Yes, they will be killed, but they will only be judged 1000 years later and then burned later on, just like the wicked tares are bound to be burned later. So we have two that grew together "until the end" being judged. But in order to get the full perspective on the Harvest Chapter God has to give us the very first "Cinematic Flashback" in history, God then shows us the pre 70th week Rapture of the Church in verse 14, where Jesus himself thrusts in the sickle and harvests the church age believes. That is why I say this Harvest Chapter covers the full 7 years.

Rev. 17 lasts 42 months also, this is God telling us who the Harlot is in big bright lights, she is ALL False Religion of all time, but this story line mainly revolves around the 42 months in which the 10 (E.U.) Kings/Powers (10 = Completion) destroy the Harlot, kill her off, burn her up, but why? Why after eons of the Harlot riding the Beasts back (see vs. 7) do they all of the sudden turn against her? Turn against the Zeus and Jupiter types, and the Islam, Buddhism and Hindu types. Because there is now no place for them because this one man (like Antiochus) considers himself to be the ONLY GOD !! Antiochus however had Rome to deal with and never got to fulfill his deep dark intentions, he however called himself God, as the name implies.

Apollyon is the Scarlet Colored Beast, that's why in Rev. 17 no crowns are spoken of, as in Rev. 12 where the crowns are on the 7 Heads because the Dragon Satan is over all Kingdoms on earth as we saw in Luke 4. Then in Rev. 13 we see the crowns on the 10 horns/kings because the Anti-Christ will be over the E.U. which is a part the 7th Head that the Dragon is also over, along with the A.C. Remember, both Dan. 8 and Rev. 13 says the Dragon/Satan gives him his power !! The MYSTERY is who the Harlot is defined as by three descriptors. MYSTERY is a Header then we get the three descriptors. 

1.) Babylon the Great (She was world renowned for her FALSE RELIGION )

2.) Mother of Harlots (FALSE RELIGION was of course the original Harlotry)

3.) Abominations of the Earth (God is a jealous God and He hates FALSE RELIGION)

So, the Harlot is identified as ALL False Religion of All Time, thus she has the blood of the [Jewish] Saints AND the blood of the Martyrs of Christ on her hands. She is thus on many waters because False Religion is of course all over the whole world. She is Scarlet and Purple because those two colors were very exclusive, one came from rare bugs, the other came from seeds from a rare bush in Egypt, so, only Royal's and Orders of the Priesthood's could afford to wear them, so the Scarlet and Purple reference is God saying the Harlot (FALSE RELIGION ) rides the backs or is comingled with the [Government] Beasts. Its not the RCC per se. She has bad ways now, but the RCC was God's design to take the Gospel unto the whole world via the Pax Romanus System they set up. They were the Beast who received the “mortal wound”, we the Church delivered it unto them, we turned the Beast from a Beast unto a vehicle or conveyor belt that delivered the Gospel unto the whole world. Satan will not over come my Church Jesus said, Amen. 

Rev. 18, Babylon equals the Whole World being judged, not ONE CITY !! This occurs over a 42 month period beginning of course when the Rev. 8 Asteroid makes impact, as does Rev. 17 begin at that time also. We can see in vs. 2 that Babylon (the world) has become a Habitation of devils, well of course she has, Satan is cast down at the exact mid point of the 70th week (1260 events) and Apollyon and his demon hordes are freed from the pit a smidge later at the 1st Woe. In vs. 4 we see God says "Come out of her my people that yo receive not of her plagues and judgments". As I mentioned in the Rev. 7 portion above, that is God telling the Jews who repented to flee from Judea into the Petra/Bozrah area, where God protects them how long? 1260 days !! See how the 1260 is KEY to everything in Revelation? And this is why the 1260 is mentioned in Daniel 12 also. God in verses 8 and 10 then says Babylon (world) will be judged in “one day” and in “one hour”, but how can that be? Well, the Day of the Lord equals 1260 days and the one hour also equals 1260 days. How so? Read Rev. 17:12, the 10 kings rule how long with the Beast? One hour, and we know the Beast rules for 42 months or 1260 days right? See how God always tells us these things if we just listen carefully? The rest of this chapter is mostly just prose, with God foretelling us how the hearts of wicked men who so loved this evil world will cry and lament at her demise and burning, they loved this evil world more than they loved God, and thus they are in terrible straights now. The last 2 or 3 verses also tell that us during this 70th week time the Bride and Groom will be found nowhere on this earth, our light will have left this earth, because we are in Heaven, having married the Lamb, we will then reside in the Fathers wedding chambers for 7 years. 

Rev. 19, like Rev. 14 covers the full 7 years because in Rev. 4:4 we see the Church already has on white raiment/robes and thus Rev. 19 has to happen before Rev. 4:4. Then we the Church return with Jesus in our white robes, which Rev. 19 says is the Righteousness of the Saints. We then are seen at the Marriage Supper on earth (Armageddon) where Jesus destroys the enemies armies by speaking victory like he spoke Creation, Amen. 

Rev. 20, 21 and 22 is the Judgment, Ever after and the New Heaven & New Earth. Amen. 

In all my years of studying the Bible I have never seen two students who completely agree on Revelation. You have left a lot to be disputed. But it was a valiant attempt to summarize a Book that needs books written about it. Just New Jerusalem is the consummation of what is revealed starting with the materials in Eden. Then, a real difficulty arises with the Book of Life being opened at a resurrection where there are no Christians. Then, although the word "Church" is never used again after Chapter 3, there are four scriptures alluding to them on earth under the Beast. Difficulty upon difficulty.

[Revelation Man]

On 9/25/2024 at 4:46 PM, AdHoc said:

In all my years of studying the Bible I have never seen two students who completely agree on Revelation. You have left a lot to be disputed. But it was a valiant attempt to summarize a Book that needs books written about it. Just New Jerusalem is the consummation of what is revealed starting with the materials in Eden. Then, a real difficulty arises with the Book of Life being opened at a resurrection where there are no Christians. Then, although the word "Church" is never used again after Chapter 3, there are four scriptures alluding to them on earth under the Beast. Difficulty upon difficulty.

Thanks brother, I was asked for a link to my Substack in a conversation with TCC, and I only have two posts up there, one I copied from here (Dan. 11 & 12 Exegesis). Since he nor I was sure Links are allowed I just posted this here and linked to my Dan. 11 & 12 Exegesis on this site. 

I pretty much do not reply to Keras because I find I disagree with him on 99.5 percent of everything he says on Eschatology, so its just no use tbh. However, you and I may disagree on this or that, but we can chat about it cordially. The Remnant Church will be on earth, of course, they repent after the Rapture. But Saints when used by John refers to Jews, the 2/3 who do not ever repent, along with all those killed by False Religion down through the ages. Meanwhile he makes it a point to call the Christians Martyrs of Jesus in Rev. 17. 

So, everywhere we see Saints does not mean the Church, imho. I think that's where we get crossed up.

Edited September 26, 2024 by Revelation Man

[AdHoc]

14 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Thanks brother, I was asked for a link to my Substack in a conversation with TCC, and I only have two posts up there, one I copied from here (Dan. 11 & 12 Exegesis). Since he nor I was sure Links are allowed I just posted this here and linked to my Dan. 11 & 12 Exegesis on this site. 

I pretty much to not reply to Keras because  find O disagree with him on 99.5 percent of everything he says on Eschatology, so its just no use tbh. However, you and I may disagree on this or that, but we can chat about it cordially. The Remnant Church will be on earth, of course, they repent after the Rapture. But Saints when used by John refers to Jews, the 2/3 wo do not ever repent, along with all those killed by False Religion down through the ages. Meanwhile he makes it a point to call the Christians Martyrs of Jesus in Rev. 17. 

So, everywhere we see Saints does not mean the Church, imho. I think that's where we get crossed up.

Yes. I have difficulty with our brother Keras's view too. He inserts meanings that I do not find and he uses the Old Testament for the Church prophecies while scripture says that it is not revealed there. I think our differences are fundamental. That is, we differ in conclusion because we start at different understandings. Here are a few, but before I start I would like to admit that your version is more popular. Mine is a minority view.

1. There is no evidence of Israel /Jews repenting. Romans 11 is clear. They are "concluded" in UN-belief. They receive mercy because of Covenant, not faith (Rom.11:27).

2. Because of this, their "salvation" is that of Zacharias in Luke 1, not that of the Church

3. The Jewish Remnant, promised in Romans 9 and 11, do not embrace Christ. The condition given for Israel's restoration is found in Deuteronomy 30:1-5. This is supported in Revelation 7 by them being emphatically "Tribes of Israel". They couldn't be believers for there is no ethnicity in the Church. It is a new creature and the old has passed away.

4. You emphasize a 7 year tribulation. I subscribe to a 3.5 year / 1260 day Tribulation. Matthew 24 predicts the Tribulation as the event in Daniel. In Daniel the Prince takes his position after 3.5 years or "half-way" through the week.

5. You have a general rapture. I believe in a conditional rapture. "Because ... you did this, I will do that ..." (Rev.3:10). "Counted worthy ... " (Lk.21:35-36)

6. You have a "Remnant Church" on earth. I have a defeated Church on earth. Revelation 7, 12, 13 and 18 show "dirty garments", tears, fleeing to a wilderness, defeated by the Beast and living in Babylon.

I could go on but as i say, your understanding is well accepted and your posting was too comprehensive to answer. Just my arguments for Luke 21 would be at least 2 X A4 (U.S. Letter).

But one thing we can agree on is that despite diverging arguments, we can be not only cordial, but even break bread together if that ever came to pass. Same for Brother Keras. We might not have the "Unity of the FAITH (what we believe)", but we have the "Unity of the Spirit" (Ephesians 4).

Go well bro.

 

[BornAgain490]

On 9/23/2024 at 11:40 PM, Revelation Man said:

Rev. 1 is Jesus in all his glory as the eternal redeemer.

Rev. 2 and 3 is the Church Age, so only this part of Revelation covers the 2000 year church age.

Now we come to the main course of what the book of Revelation is all about, the future 70th week, where Jesus raptures his church to heaven for a 7 year wedding chambers wait for a Marriage Supper back on earth, at Armageddon. 

Rev. 4 & 5 go hand in hand, both are the saints/church in heaven (24 Elders) praising God & The Slain Lamb in back to back chapters which happens in the first 3.5 years of the 70th week, but it happens in heaven, not on earth, the Revelation 4:4 and Revelation 5:9-10 verses prove this.

Rev. 6 is Jesus in heaven, before God's Wrath falls at the middle of the 70th week, at the 1260 DOTL event, opening the bound up scroll that has God's Wrath contained in it. A Wax Signet Seal always bound messages, the number seven (7) signifies Divine Completion, as Jesus breaks every Seal, he foretells what will come when the 7th Seal unleashes the Trumpet judgments over in Rev. 8, that is why the 7th seal is over in Rev. 8. This of course happens just before the middle of the weeks 1260 DOTL event.

Rev. 7 is not what most people think, so its a little more detailed. It is a code for all the Jews who repent, and we know Israel repents just before the middle of the week 1260 DOTL event, by reading Zech. 13:8-9, we see the 1/3 repent, then in the very next verse we see the Day of the Lord arrives in Zech. 14:1, then in vs. 2 Jerusalem is conquered, and in vs. 3 Jesus returns 1260 days later, because this all starts in the middle of the week, on day 1260. So, these Jews who repent (the 1/3) must repent just before the DOTL, and we know Elijah is sent back before the DOTL as Malachi 4:5-6 states.

So I have figured out in the last 5 years, via an Exegesis on Dan. 11 & 12, that the 1335 Blessing is the Two-witnesses showing up to get Israel to repent. Then we come to the 1290 event, who is really just the False Prophet, who will be a Jewish High Priest, like unto Jason (real name Yeshua) who betrayed his Jewish brothers under Antiochus Epiphanes IV (AE4), so we had both Archetypes (Anti-Christ & False Prophet) living at the exact same time, which is what the shadow of things to come should be, two men, not one. Jason invited AE4 into the temple to sacrifice a pig unto Zeus, defiling the temple, thus Hanukkah is remembered today because the defiled temple had to be cleansed. Jason then mandated that all Jews become Hellenized (take on Greek culture and serve Greek gods, like he did), leading unto the Maccabean Revolt. 

So, in the end times the False Prophet will do likewise, except he will stop (take away the Sacrifice as Dan. 9:27 says) Jesus worship, and he will then place an image up in the temple, as Rev. 13 clearly states he does, the 2nd Beast gets the people to make an image of the 1st Beast. Most people think the Anti-Christ is the one who does all this at the 1290, but alas, he only comes on the scene 30 days later at the 1260, when the Rev. 8 Asteroid strikes (Wrath of God). The 1st Beast will in my honest opinion be the E.U. President, thus how does he have such a close relationship and so much pull with this Jewish High Priest/False Prophet? And how can he conquer Israel when they have Nukes? Does any thing fit? Of course it fits perfectly. The Agreement, as seen in Daniel 9:27 (Covenant/Agreement) is simply this, the E.U. gets Israel to join the European Union after the Gog & Magog war or just before the Gog war, I think just before because I think this Agreement in Dan. 9:27 angers God, and because they gave His land away, God starts up the 70th week because His anger at Israel is rekindled, and the Rapture happens at the exact same time.

To wrap up this very complicated chapter, the 144,000 are the 1/3, God was never going to give Satan 2000 years to prepare by giving him a true number, so God stated it was 1/3 in Zech. 13:8-9 and 144,000 in the book of Revelation, one was a ratio, the other a code. 12 equals Fulness 10 equals Completeness, so we get God shouting at us this is ALL Israel who repents, 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 means just that, just like the 10 Virgin Brides equals the complete Christendom, the 144,000 Male Virgins equals All Jews who repent, male and females alike. So, reread Rev. 7 now, they are never called Super Preachers, they are said to need protection from the four winds (God's Coming Wrath) so God seals them (gets them sealed via the Holy Spirit like us) and He then protects them from his coming wrath which hurts and burns the earth via the 1/3 burning Trees, the 1/3 Seas and the 1/3 Earth, I see the 1/3 as being where this asteroid hits, in the Pacific Ocean (The whole New World is the 1/3). God's Plagues will hit the Old World in a different way, He wants to preserve the Old World because Jesus will be ruling from Jerusalem for 1000 years. Basically, these 144,000 (5 Million Jews who Flee Judea for the Petra/Bosrah area) are protected by God for 1260 days these are the woman of Rev. 12, these are the ones God says “come out of her unto” (Babylon/Whole World) in Rev. 18:4. So, these Jews who repent are Sealed by the Holy Spirit then protected. Then we get a flash up, we see the Raptured Church in Rev. 7:9-16 just before the Wrath Falls in Rev. 8.

Now the Wrath begins, this chapter starts the 1260 day middle of the 70th week wrath of God. Rev. 8, 9 and 16 covers the Full 1260 days, so I will show those three first, everything else is Parenthetical in nature

Rev. 8 is the 7th seal being taken off, this starts the wrath of God, or DOTL, that is why the 7th seal is over in Rev. 8, and its also why in Rev. 7 God said hold up the four winds (Wrath of God) until we get the 144,000 (5 million Jews) sealed and protected by God Himself. So, the 7th seal had to be held up, until Rev. 7’s mission was completed by the Two-witnesses, this is also why in Rev. 11 John was told to measure the temple, the altar and those who worship therein, only Jews, were to be preach unto by these Two-witnesses, because this is their mission, just like it was Jesus' only mission, the Rapture has passed, the Angel as seen in Rev. 14:6 takes over the mission of preaching the Gospel unto the masses. In Rev. 8 we see the first four Trumps are just one asteroid being spoken about in four different phases. This first phase via Trump #1 is the 1/3 of the trees burning like Sodom burned, because of an asteroid breaking apart in our atmosphere, where sulfur balls will fall onto trees/houses and burn 1/3 of the worlds trees, I see that as a destination point also, the New World. Then in Trump #2 we get the impact, which hits in the Pacific Ocean just off the California/Mexico coastlines, and the Pacific Ocean just so happens to cover 1/3 of the worlds surface overall, hmm, that’s interesting. Then in Trump #3 we get the fallout or Wormwood that poisons the 1/3 fresh waters, or the New Worlds rivers. Then finally in Trump #4 we get the Sun & Moon darkening by 1/3, all over the world. because the smoke gets up in the Jet Streams and goes all around the whole world, of course. Then in vs. 13 it clearly states that the three Trumps yet to come are the three Woes, and only as they are sounded do we get those three Woes.

Rev. 9 is the first two woes. So, the mention of the 2nd Woe and 3rd Woe in Rev. 11 has to be a Parenthetic Citation Chapter. We see in Woe #1 that Apollyon and his hordes are released from the pit, they can not hurt people, but in the 2nd woe those 200 million can kill, I wonder why? I'll offer a thought on that, I think these Demons jobs are to get people to choose, this day whose side they will stand on, they have no power to kill, but they can hurt and maim, so, if you have not taken the mark of the Beast yet they come after you, and if you have not chosen God yet they come after you. So, why do they not just kill them? Satan wants numbers in his army, why would he kill possible future army members? Now, those who chose God he will kill as soon as they do that. These are only those who have not chosen which side they will stand on imho.

In Woe #2 we see the 200 million angels slaying 1/3 of those who have taken the mark of the Beast. Remember, Satan can not kill Satan, Jesus reminded us of this. People miss this because they see the angels bound in the Euphrates river, but its not in the river per se, read carefully, they are bound to a time.........A Day, a Month, a Year and to a season or “time” !! Not in a river per se, just to that part of the world at a certain point in time, at the Euphrates River Basin. We know verses 20-21 says these are plagues and plagues come from God. 

Rev. 15 & 16 are really one chapter, we will mostly talk about Rev. 16, but notice, in Rev. 8 the Trumpets are readied for sounding by the angels, then the trumps are sounded by the angels. In Rev. 15 the angels are readying the Vials to be poured out, then in Rev. 16 the angels actually pour out these bowls of Wrath which finish up God's Wrath, because all wrath comes from the Seven Trumps, the last three are the three Woes. The 7th Trump thus brings the 3rd Woe (remember Rev. 8:13 says so) and thus the 7 Vials are the 3rd Woe. We get the first 5 Vials, then we get a Vial for the ages, everyone thinks it really means God dries up the Euphrates so "Armies can cross" where they can get to Armageddon. But alas, these cowards are too scared to come out of their caves after the first 6 trumps, the two woes which kill 1/3 of those who took the mark of the Beast and the first 5 Vials which were grievous sores, blisters etc. etc. etc. So, what this really is, is that God’s using a metaphor of a great river to show that He will dry up, His wrath (Vials) long enough to allow Satan the Dragon, the False Prophet and the Anti-Christ to entice these evil men to come unto Armageddon via their lies, thus God can end it all in one grand spectacle as Jesus shows up at the 7th Vial to wipe them all out by his voices uttering victory, Amen. But the Euphrates river is really God’s plagues being dried up long enough to give these three entities time to lie, IMHO, they simply do this: The say, LOOK, LOOK, the Two-witnesses have died, it was them who prayed down all these plagues, and they did do that, but they prayed down the 7th Trump just before they died as Rev. 11 says, they died during the 2nd Woe, just before the 3rd Woe comes via the 7th Trump. The liars then tell these wicked men hiding in caves, hey if we go to Jerusalem and kill off every last Jews this will NEVER EVER HAPPEN AGAIN !! Lets Roll. That is when Jesus says "LETS ROLL FOR REAL" and destroys them all, in one place, Armageddon, Amen. 

The rest of the book of Revelation are Parenthetical Citation Chapters

Rev. 10 is now much easier to understand knowing that all of the wrath of God comes out of the seven Trumpet judgments. The 7 Thunders are the 7 Trumps. That is why when the 7th Thunder sounds "Time [as we now know it] will be NO MORE" in other words Satan will be cast into the pit and Jesus will be ruling. Also, now we know why the little book was sweet in John's mouth but very bitter in his stomach. The judgments are needed in order for humans in Christ to move on and live forever in the new Heaven & Earth, but John also knew that billions of human beings would be both killed and judged and thus it was a somber, and a very bitter taste unto John. Look back to the 7th seal, the Heavens were Silent for 30 minutes, IMHO, this shows the same thing, just like it repented God to have to kill all mankind save the 8 in the flood, those in Heaven take no Joy in what these judgments will bring, thus the “silence” represents their somber feelings, like being at a funeral they don't joy in this, but judgment must come to pass, because God is a Righteous Judge. Amen. So, the 7 Thunders simply speak about the 7 Trumpet judgments in full.

Rev. 11 starts 75 days before the middle of the week 1260 DOTL events. Israel has to repent, so the Two-witnesses are sent back 1335 days before the the 2nd coming, ends all these wonders/things as Dan. 12 says. This chapter is only about the 2 witnesses  1260 day ministry on earth, the reason they "die before the Beast dies" at the end of the 2nd Woe, whilst he dies at the 7th Vial, when Jesus returns, is because they show up 1335 days before the 2nd coming while the A.C. only becomes the Beast 1260 days before the 2nd coming. It all adds up via the math because its factual. God gave them both 1260 day Ordained by God offices on earth so we could juxtapose their "TIMELINES" against each other. There is no reason for the Two-witnesses with their Glorious bodies have to even die except to give us these exact timelines. We can thus know the 7th Trump/3rd Woe/7 Vials last for exactly 75 days. Below in chapters 12, 13, 17 and 18 I can show how each parallel exactly with the Rev. 8, 9 and 16’s 1260 days of God’s Wrath. 

Rev. 12 as we know is the Woman (Israel) fleeing from Judea unto the Petra/Bozrah area where God protects them from the Dragon and his Anti-Christ Army for 1260 days, so this covers the full Wrath of God period, starting in Rev. 8, and continuing through Rev. 9 and Rev. 16. Everything revolves around the middle of the week 1260 DOTL or wrath of God (Asteroid falls).

Rev. 13 of course as we know can only cover the Beasts 42 months/1260 days in office as "The Beast". So, just like Rev. 12 this chapters covers the exact same timeframe as Rev. 8, 9 and 16 combined. Its quite simple really, at least to me. He will kill and maim for 1260 days, which brings famine, death, wars, etc. etc. 

Rev. 14 like Rev. 19 is a tad different in nature, it covers the full 7 years of the 70th week, because of a certain flashback Rapture. This is designated as the Harvest Chapter by me, so we need all three harvests, and they happen at different times, so we get a flashback. We see the 144,000 (5 million Jews) awaiting Jesus on the holy mount, but in reality they are in the Petra/Bozrah area, and we know this because Jesus comes unto them with a blood stained white garment on, signifying he's killed the wicked at Armageddon before going to gather them (The Wheat who grows with the tares until the end) into His Fathers barn. They are shown on the holy mount because Israel will rule with Jesus for 1000 years from Jerusalem, Amen. Then in verses 17-20 we see the wicked grapes are judged/killed, these are likened unto the wicked tares. Yes, they will be killed, but they will only be judged 1000 years later and then burned later on, just like the wicked tares are bound to be burned later. So we have two that grew together "until the end" being judged. But in order to get the full perspective on the Harvest Chapter God has to give us the very first "Cinematic Flashback" in history, God then shows us the pre 70th week Rapture of the Church in verse 14, where Jesus himself thrusts in the sickle and harvests the church age believes. That is why I say this Harvest Chapter covers the full 7 years.

Rev. 17 lasts 42 months also, this is God telling us who the Harlot is in big bright lights, she is ALL False Religion of all time, but this story line mainly revolves around the 42 months in which the 10 (E.U.) Kings/Powers (10 = Completion) destroy the Harlot, kill her off, burn her up, but why? Why after eons of the Harlot riding the Beasts back (see vs. 7) do they all of the sudden turn against her? Turn against the Zeus and Jupiter types, and the Islam, Buddhism and Hindu types. Because there is now no place for them because this one man (like Antiochus) considers himself to be the ONLY GOD !! Antiochus however had Rome to deal with and never got to fulfill his deep dark intentions, he however called himself God, as the name implies.

Apollyon is the Scarlet Colored Beast, that's why in Rev. 17 no crowns are spoken of, as in Rev. 12 where the crowns are on the 7 Heads because the Dragon Satan is over all Kingdoms on earth as we saw in Luke 4. Then in Rev. 13 we see the crowns on the 10 horns/kings because the Anti-Christ will be over the E.U. which is a part the 7th Head that the Dragon is also over, along with the A.C. Remember, both Dan. 8 and Rev. 13 says the Dragon/Satan gives him his power !! The MYSTERY is who the Harlot is defined as by three descriptors. MYSTERY is a Header then we get the three descriptors. 

1.) Babylon the Great (She was world renowned for her FALSE RELIGION )

2.) Mother of Harlots (FALSE RELIGION was of course the original Harlotry)

3.) Abominations of the Earth (God is a jealous God and He hates FALSE RELIGION)

So, the Harlot is identified as ALL False Religion of All Time, thus she has the blood of the [Jewish] Saints AND the blood of the Martyrs of Christ on her hands. She is thus on many waters because False Religion is of course all over the whole world. She is Scarlet and Purple because those two colors were very exclusive, one came from rare bugs, the other came from seeds from a rare bush in Egypt, so, only Royal's and Orders of the Priesthood's could afford to wear them, so the Scarlet and Purple reference is God saying the Harlot (FALSE RELIGION ) rides the backs or is comingled with the [Government] Beasts. Its not the RCC per se. She has bad ways now, but the RCC was God's design to take the Gospel unto the whole world via the Pax Romanus System they set up. They were the Beast who received the “mortal wound”, we the Church delivered it unto them, we turned the Beast from a Beast unto a vehicle or conveyor belt that delivered the Gospel unto the whole world. Satan will not over come my Church Jesus said, Amen. 

Rev. 18, Babylon equals the Whole World being judged, not ONE CITY !! This occurs over a 42 month period beginning of course when the Rev. 8 Asteroid makes impact, as does Rev. 17 begin at that time also. We can see in vs. 2 that Babylon (the world) has become a Habitation of devils, well of course she has, Satan is cast down at the exact mid point of the 70th week (1260 events) and Apollyon and his demon hordes are freed from the pit a smidge later at the 1st Woe. In vs. 4 we see God says "Come out of her my people that yo receive not of her plagues and judgments". As I mentioned in the Rev. 7 portion above, that is God telling the Jews who repented to flee from Judea into the Petra/Bozrah area, where God protects them how long? 1260 days !! See how the 1260 is KEY to everything in Revelation? And this is why the 1260 is mentioned in Daniel 12 also. God in verses 8 and 10 then says Babylon (world) will be judged in “one day” and in “one hour”, but how can that be? Well, the Day of the Lord equals 1260 days and the one hour also equals 1260 days. How so? Read Rev. 17:12, the 10 kings rule how long with the Beast? One hour, and we know the Beast rules for 42 months or 1260 days right? See how God always tells us these things if we just listen carefully? The rest of this chapter is mostly just prose, with God foretelling us how the hearts of wicked men who so loved this evil world will cry and lament at her demise and burning, they loved this evil world more than they loved God, and thus they are in terrible straights now. The last 2 or 3 verses also tell that us during this 70th week time the Bride and Groom will be found nowhere on this earth, our light will have left this earth, because we are in Heaven, having married the Lamb, we will then reside in the Fathers wedding chambers for 7 years. 

Rev. 19, like Rev. 14 covers the full 7 years because in Rev. 4:4 we see the Church already has on white raiment/robes and thus Rev. 19 has to happen before Rev. 4:4. Then we the Church return with Jesus in our white robes, which Rev. 19 says is the Righteousness of the Saints. We then are seen at the Marriage Supper on earth (Armageddon) where Jesus destroys the enemies armies by speaking victory like he spoke Creation, Amen. 

Rev. 20, 21 and 22 is the Judgment, Ever after and the New Heaven & New Earth. Amen. 

This is your own private interpretation, and "no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation." (2 Peter 1:20).  And you have added to the prophecy of John's Revelation by and through your eisegesis.  Go back to Revelation and exegete ch. 22:18 and 19. Then repent. 

[BornAgain490]

19 hours ago, Keras said:

Unbelievable and totally unscriptural. 

We Christians will be tested, 1 Peter 4:12 and we will remain on earth until Jesus Returns and be with Him during the Millennium. 

Brother, dispensationalism pretrib rapture is part of the great deception.  If Satan can convince man to believe they will escape tribulation, using influential pastors and teachers as his proxies, he knows he'll get more to receive the mark of the beast because they'll believe the lie that they won't be on earth when Anti-Christ is revealed and the mark is required. 

[Revelation Man]

6 hours ago, BornAgain490 said:

This is your own private interpretation, and "no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation." (2 Peter 1:20).  And you have added to the prophecy of John's Revelation by and through your eisegesis.  Go back to Revelation and exegete ch. 22:18 and 19. Then repent. 

I have been a preacher for 40 years, with my calling being a bent towards the prophetic. When you get to heaven you will instantly see all of my points are factual. I do not just jump on anything, I started seeing different after 32 years when the Lord humbled me via one prayer.

The prayer was "Lord, in these end times, where you promised to reveal all things and pour out your spirit on us, why are there so many different interpretations of: Who Babylon is, who the Harlot is, who the 144,000 are etc. and I got this from the Holy Spirit.

Ron, you guys already know it all.

So, from that point on I understood I had to do what I did as  Baby Christian with the Gospels, simply ask God "What does this mean" and I always got an answer. All this repeating other "men's ideas" via sermons, or books is what keeps us from knowing these end time understandings in full. Go read 40 books telling you 40 different interpretations of who the Harlot is, OR...........NOVEL IDEA...........just ask God and never move on until He gives you an answer, wrestle with the Lord for that answer like Jacob did.

Then when the holy spirit gives it to you, no one can dissuade you, if you got it from another man, it not of God. The reason as young Christians we all sought men's ideas on Daniel/Revelation/Prophesy, is because we saw it as over our heads. People like you amuse me, you have zero pushback no anything.

 

[Dennis1209]

7 hours ago, AdHoc said:

5. You have a general rapture. I believe in a conditional rapture. "Because ... you did this, I will do that ..." (Rev.3:10). "Counted worthy ... " (Lk.21:35-36)

Greetings AdHoc,

Luke 21:35-36 (KJV) For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. ³⁶ Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Eating the three-ton elephant one bite at a time, selecting just one item you commented on. I was going to comment on my long-held preconceived notions and why. But before I did, I wanted to double-check some things and see if I was on solid ground with my exegesis. It turns out, maybe not so much; I now have more questions than answers in the verses above.

First, I would like to start off with a word definition, snare, and it’s application:

παγίς, ίδος, ἡ (πήγνυμι, cp. prec. entry; Aristoph. et al.; pap, LXX; En 103:8)

          prim. ‘trap, snare’.

          ①       a device used to catch animals, trap, snare (Aristoph., Aves 527, Ranae 115; Anth. Pal. 6, 109; Pr 6:5; 7:23; Eccl 9:12) ὡς π. like a trap, i.e. unexpectedly Lk 21:35.^[1]

Ecclesiastes 9:12 (KJV) For man also knoweth not his time: as the fishes that are taken in an evil net, and as the birds that are caught in the snare; so are the sons of men snared in an evil time, when it falleth suddenly upon them.

The context seems to be unexpected evil times suddenly coming upon all of them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. I question if this was the entire known earth in the time of Luke’s writing, the extent of the Roman Empire. Would this be: Revelation 2:10 (KJV) Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. Or, literally, the entire planet? I prefer the latter.

I checked several commentaries to gather thoughts on the two verses in Luke. I was disappointed, as all their hermeneutics were in general and nothing specific. Is Luke referencing the Rapture of the church? I do not take this as a Rapture verse. If you are not watching and praying, then what? What are these watching take place and praying for? How can we be accounted worthy not watching, caught off guard?

So, I think I can thus far say that whoever these are, they were snared and trapped off guard like animals; they were not paying attention. The context of Luke 21 seems to be the entrance into the Kingdom of God, the millennial reign of Christ.

Further, Jesus seems to be speaking and attributing this to the Jews, not the Gentiles, and the kingdom John the Baptist came preaching that they were promised but delayed since they rejected it.

To be worthy to escape all these things, I take as the remnant of 1/6 of Israel that will be saved, allowed to enter the joy of Christ. I suspect the timing to be the abomination that makes desolate, and all of Israel flees for their lives.

Here is the biggie, “accounted worthy.”

How does anyone in any dispensation be accounted worthy? By keeping the Law of Moses perfectly? By works? By being a good and moral person. By our strength? Nope.

How are you going to be worthy? The only thing that will make me worthy is my position in Christ. Therefore, I have trusted Him as my Savior, and I have committed my way to Him, so that if I am alive at the time of the Rapture, I’ll be going to meet Him in the air by the grace of God.

The preceding appears to relate to the Jews only, and post-Rapture, IMO.

 

 

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^[1] William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2000), 747.

[Revelation Man]

7 hours ago, AdHoc said:

1. There is no evidence of Israel /Jews repenting. Romans 11 is clear. They are "concluded" in UN-belief. They receive mercy because of Covenant, not faith (Rom.11:27).

 

Well, I think I can provide that evidence that Israel repents. But before I do, no man can be justified without faith, if God lets in End Time Jews because there were merely born in the end, then why would the pharisees of Jesus' time not be let in also?

In the last few verses in Matt. 23 Jesus says when he returns they (Jews) will say blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord" meaning they recognize him as their Messiah.

Zech. 13:8-9 shows 1/3 of the Jews repenting, then in Zech. 14:1 the Day of the Lord arrives, then in vs. 2 Israel & Jerusalem gets sacked and in vs. 3 Jesus places two feet on Mt. Zion defeating Israel's enemies. So, that timing shows Israel repents just before the DOTL and Malachi 4:5-6 says Elijah will be sent back BEFORE the Great and Dreadful day of the Lord, to turn Israel back unto God.

Paul indeed says they were in UN BELIEF, but that same passage has a big IF in it...................which means Israel must repent if God is to graft them back in.

23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.

So, God will not accept any human being who is not covered by Jesus blood, Mary merely touching Jesus in Joh 20 would have defiled the sacrifice, thars how holy God is. Zacharias, like Abraham, was made righteous BY FAITH in the coming promise, remember, the law only came 430 years after "The Promise".

7 hours ago, AdHoc said:

3. The Jewish Remnant, promised in Romans 9 and 11, do not embrace Christ. The condition given for Israel's restoration is found in Deuteronomy 30:1-5. This is supported in Revelation 7 by them being emphatically "Tribes of Israel". They couldn't be believers for there is no ethnicity in the Church. It is a new creature and the old has passed away.

That imho, is God showing that Israel has repented via the two-witnesses and thus Jesus when he returns will now have a nation to rule via the promised Kingdom Age, he will sit on David's throne so to speak. 

7 hours ago, AdHoc said:

4. You emphasize a 7 year tribulation. I subscribe to a 3.5 year / 1260 day Tribulation. Matthew 24 predicts the Tribulation as the event in Daniel. In Daniel the Prince takes his position after 3.5 years or "half-way" through the week.

 

Not really, my point is John 16:33 says all time on this earth is tribulation, I call the 7 year period the 70th week and tag it like this the 70th week/tribulation so people will understand what timeframe I am speaking about from both ends of the spectrum, then I talk about the 1260 days of the Greatest Ever Troubles known to man. The Beast rules 1260 days, hes only a Beast when he conquers Israel (and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region) but he makes the Agreement or is revealed at the start of the 70th week right? 

7 hours ago, AdHoc said:

6. You have a "Remnant Church" on earth. I have a defeated Church on earth. Revelation 7, 12, 13 and 18 show "dirty garments", tears, fleeing to a wilderness, defeated by the Beast and living in Babylon.

 

Remember brother, Jesus said the gates of hell will not overcome my church. The only church seen in Rev. 7 is the pre 70th week/pre trib. raptured church, in heaven. Rev. 12 is about Israel fleeing Judea, see Gen. 37:9 it breaks the code of who the woman is. Rev. 13 is both the 2/3 Saints (Jews) who never repent and the Gentile Martyrs of Jesus or the Remnant Church as I see it. Babylon = the whole world, but you have to be more specific on the where there, all I see is where God calls Israel to come out of Babylon (flee Judea) there. 

Yes, we will be there soon  fellowshipping together brother, and it will not matter who thought what, we will al know God's truths in full. We will even laugh about me saying I was 100% right when I was only 98.8% correct.