We live in "it is all about me" world.

[missmuffet]

2 hours ago, Jayne said:

Oh, you think the persecution of the church and Christians will be a breeze?  I'm not talking about Christ's return or the Tribulation.  I'm talking about now.

We are under the judgment of God now and if CHRISTIANS don't get their act together - then there will be NO revival.

Christians sin JUST like everyone else.

No, we are not under the judgment of God now. We are in the grace period. The judgment and wrath of God is the 7 year tribulation which is still to come in the near future.

Everyone is a sinner and that includes Christians. Although the born again true Christians are saved and will go to heaven.

[Jayne]

51 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

No, we are not under the judgment of God now. We are in the grace period. The judgment and wrath of God is the 7 year tribulation which is still to come in the near future.

I'm not talking about the final judgment - the final seven years.  And grace will still be available then.  The book of Revelation says that - even though it will be terrible - more people than can be counted will be saved.  Evangelized by an angel, two witnesses, and 144,000 Jewish males that God saves for that purpose.  They will not live long it says - martryed for their new faith, but they will be recipients of God's grace.

I'm talking about now.

America is in horrible shape.  Sex trafficking, babies eaten by satanists, homosexuality and transgenderism is the NORM in the eyes of far too many, the rise of terrible crime, and the moral breakdown of the family and the church.  And the church?  It's on the online forums talking about how wicked everyone ELSE is.

The church is silent about itself and tolerant of sin in its own walls.

Romans 1 gives the picture of a people in the final spiral.

God has given us over to our own debased mind.  Just as Romans 1 says.

Just as God in the Old Testament gave up many nations, including Israel, over to their horrible sins, he has done that with America now.

Good is proclaimed as evil.  Evil is proclaimed as good.  That's everywhere - everyday.

What is a woman?  Why can't the people say so?

How did we GET here?!?

Read Romans 1.  Read Habakkuk.  God WILL inevitably remove his hand of protection from a people who grossly turn their back on him.

The only hope is that while there is breath in our mouths - there is hope to be saved.

But dear miss muffett, America has been under the judgment of God for a while.

I believe that just as Ninevah, people can turn around and turn to God.

 

 

 

[missmuffet]

3 minutes ago, Jayne said:

I'm not talking about the final judgment - the final seven years.  And grace will still be available then.  The book of Revelation says that - even though it will be terrible - more people than can be counted will be saved.  Evangelized by an angel, two witnesses, and 144,000 Jewish males that God saves for that purpose.  They will not live long it says - martryed for their new faith, but they will be recipients of God's grace.

I'm talking about now.

America is in horrible shape.  Sex trafficking, babies eaten by satanists, homosexuality and transgenderism is the NORM in the eyes of far too many, the rise of terrible crime, and the moral breakdown of the family and the church.  And the church?  It's on the online forums talking about how wicked everyone ELSE is.

The church is silent about itself and tolerant of sin in its own walls.

Romans 1 gives the picture of a people in the final spiral.

God has given us over to our own debased mind.  Just as Romans 1 says.

Just as God in the Old Testament gave up many nations, including Israel, over to their horrible sins, he has done that with America now.

Good is proclaimed as evil.  Evil is proclaimed as good.  That's everywhere - everyday.

What is a woman?  Why can't the people say so?

How did we GET here?!?

Read Romans 1.  Read Habakkuk.  God WILL inevitably remove his hand of protection from a people who grossly turn their back on him.

The only hope is that while there is breath in our mouths - there is hope to be saved.

But dear miss muffett, America has been under the judgment of God for a while.

I believe that just as Ninevah, people can turn around and turn to God.

 

 

 

Do you believe that all people on this world will go into the 7 year tribulation?

 

[Jayne]

1 minute ago, missmuffet said:

Do you believe that all people on this world will go into the 7 year tribulation?

 

I'm in the minority here at Worthy, but I believe in a Rapture of the church and then the final judgment.

[farouk]

21 hours ago, Annisissy said:

Yes We are DEFINITELY living in a time when "it's all about me"

Well it's NOT all about me. Ultimately it's all about JESUS

Hi @Annisissy This is why I appreciate the focus in the Lord's Supper: It's all about Him. "In remembrance of Me". 1 Corinthians 11.26: "For as often as ye eat this bread and drink this cup ye do shew the Lord's death till He come."

It's all about Him, giving proper focus to our lives down here, in worship and service, while His people await His return.

[Annisissy]

1 minute ago, farouk said:

Hi @Annisissy This is why I appreciate the focus in the Lord's Supper: It's all about Him. "In remembrance of Me". 1 Corinthians 11.26: "For as often as ye eat this bread and drink this cup ye do shew the Lord's death till He come."

It's all about Him, giving proper focus to our lives down here, in worship and service, while His people await His return.

EXACTLY 😊 

[farouk]

2 minutes ago, Annisissy said:

EXACTLY 😊 

Indeed; thanks......

[D. Adrien]

I've seen the statement made that the self indulged act like they are the main character in their own Hollywood movie.

All the movies will turn into a dystopian nightmare as blessings are removed and the prideful learn how incapable they really are in dealing with reality.

[Dennis1209]

“Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you.”

ydenneK F. nhoJ

[Dennis1209]

I highly suspect the Lord has withdrawn his hand of protection over America and given many in our nation over to a debased mind and the selfish lusts of their flesh (remedial judgment).

As the global police force, how many non-declared wars and skirmishes have we participated in since WW II, and how many have we won? Answer: Zero.

Look at everything that has happened in one half of a generation (my generation). For brevity, I cite only a few abominations and sins of many. America is the global leader in exporting pornography, tens of millions of abortions, transgenderism, homosexuality, gender identity, treasury money for sex changes, lies, and deception are everywhere, “America is no longer a Christian nation, but…” (Obummer), on and on. What other explanation is there for half of America supporting and celebrating abominations and sin in only a few short decades?

There is Biblical precedence time and again. Judgment soon follows when abominations become the law of the land, and people and the nation call evil good and good evil.  

The Lord is so patient and not willing that any should perish, but global and national judgment is soon coming.

2 Chronicles 7:14 (KJV) If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

God’s patience is limited. Gentile Christians (the church) are grafted in with God’s chosen people. I do not see most religious churches humbling themselves, seeking God’s grace, and asking for national forgiveness to heal our land; quite the contrary.

Many today are busy with me, me, taking selfies all day, talking about themselves on social media, sporting tramp stamps, taking up misplaced social justice causes, etc.

I think we have already received a Nineveh moment (four years) and rejected it.

Daniel 2:21 (KJV) And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding: