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On 11/2/2024 at 7:21 PM, missmuffet said:

I don't support dreams and visions for today. Dreams and visions was used in the Old Testament. With the completion

of the Bible God doesn't have to use dreams and visions. I am not saying that He never uses it. Our first choice

should be the Holy Bible.

Sometimes He uses dreams and visions to simply communicate with those who are visual communicators. It isn't miraculous, new communication, but sometimes just talking, teaching, leading. He says if we ask for it, He'll gives us answers, knowledge and wisdom. I took Him up on that offer.

I pray like a seer, and ask for insight. I ask for His interpretation, as Daniel did, and He shows me where in Scripture He wants me to read, so He can give me a fuller understanding of what I am seeking from Him. Often, in such communication, He shows me an answer visually. His images illuminate Scripture, giving me a "first"look at a passage of scripture I've misunderstood for three and a half decades.

I've had people warn me about being "in the Spirit," because they'd been taught that if someone connects to the spiritual realm, they are most likely being influenced by demons, or even Satan. 

I simply addressed the concern with Him, and He agreed to validate what He shows me. 

Still, I recognize that visions/dreams can mislead a person if they take them at face value without His interpretation. 


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50 minutes ago, Indentured Servant said:

Sometimes He uses dreams and visions to simply communicate with those who are visual communicators. It isn't miraculous, new communication, but sometimes just talking, teaching, leading. He says if we ask for it, He'll gives us answers, knowledge and wisdom. I took Him up on that offer.

I pray like a seer, and ask for insight. I ask for His interpretation, as Daniel did, and He shows me where in Scripture He wants me to read, so He can give me a fuller understanding of what I am seeking from Him. Often, in such communication, He shows me an answer visually. His images illuminate Scripture, giving me a "first"look at a passage of scripture I've misunderstood for three and a half decades.

I've had people warn me about being "in the Spirit," because they'd been taught that if someone connects to the spiritual realm, they are most likely being influenced by demons, or even Satan. 

I simply addressed the concern with Him, and He agreed to validate what He shows me. 

Still, I recognize that visions/dreams can mislead a person if they take them at face value without His interpretation. 

I don't support dreams and visions for today. I don't say it can't happen but we have the completion of the Holy Bible.


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2 hours ago, christsavedme said:

I find this topic fascinating and complex.

Historically these ideas have deep roots in Christian tradition, though their expression has evolved over time. The concept of divine communication through scripture, nature, and personal experience has been a cornerstone of Catholic theology for centuries.

Psychologically these categorizations reflect common human experiences of spiritual connection and moral struggle. The listed methods of divine communication often align with sources of comfort, guidance, and ethical reinforcement in many people's lives. Conversely, the "harassment" list touches on universal human challenges like temptation, self-doubt, and social pressure.

But I must note that this stark division between divine and satanic influences is a relatively modern, often Protestant-influenced view. Traditional Catholic theology tends to have a more nuanced understanding of spiritual warfare and temptation.

 I'm intrigued by how these beliefs might shape one's perception of daily experiences and moral choices. They provide a framework for interpreting both positive and negative aspects of life, which can be psychologically powerful.

What are your thoughts on this, my friend? I'd be curious to hear how these ideas resonate with your own experiences and beliefs.

What you said really isn't clear but I support what I said. There is so much false teaching on Worthy that a Christian needs to be very careful and have very good Christian discernment.


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2 hours ago, missmuffet said:

There is so much false teaching on Worthy that a Christian needs to be very careful and have very good Christian discernment.

Ceasationists think a lot of teaching is false no matter where they are.

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2 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

Ceasationists think a lot of teaching is false no matter where they are.

No, I know false teaching from the true Word of God. If you know the Bible well you can detect false teaching instantly. That is why you need to know the Bible well and know the true Words literally.

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3 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

No, I know false teaching from the true Word of God. If you know the Bible well you can detect false teaching instantly. That is why you need to know the Bible well and know the true Words literally.

Said every pseudochristian cult leader :thinking:

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6 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

No, I know false teaching from the true Word of God. If you know the Bible well you can detect false teaching instantly. That is why you need to know the Bible well and know the true Words literally.

And yet you claim pretrib is biblical.


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On 11/2/2024 at 7:10 PM, Michael37 said:

I have had numerous near death experiences, but in particular in my youth as a sleeping passenger I was saved from a head on crash by an angel alerting me that the driver had also fallen asleep, and instructing me to take immediate evasive action. I heard and saw the angel in my state of consciousness.

I'm reminded of my flight on a 747 heading across the Pacific Ocean during the early 1970s. There was a horrific noise in the cabin the entire way; it sounded like the high-pitched shrieking of metal. Years later, my father informed me about what that was: a hole was torn in the fuselage of the aircraft early on during the flight. Somehow, the cabin never lost pressure, and the aircraft remained in one piece the entire way. 

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1 hour ago, Diaste said:

And yet you claim pretrib is biblical.

Yes, it is biblical. If it wasn't biblical I sure would not embrace it.

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7 hours ago, missmuffet said:

I don't support dreams and visions for today. I don't say it can't happen but we have the completion of the Holy Bible.

God did not give us the bible, men gave us the bible at their synods. 

God gave us the Law through Moses in the Covenant of Sinai. 

And. He gave us the words of Jesus Christ our Lord. 

Jesus Christ speaks to his children forever more. 

My children hear my voice and follow me.

This is never been written in the book of the other Monotheistic religions. 

In one God gave them the book of Leviticus and their religious Calendar and at the same time God gave them the words of His Prophets so the people knew that His is still their God and their Judge. 

In the knew Covenant God is reaching out to all the people of the world in many diverse ways. 

Thats how God is helping everyone to come to the Knowledge of Jesus Christ when the Words of the Gospel are spoken. And that's also God is quiding His children and some times through diverse ways through Angels as the Angels are towards to Jesus Christ. 

The Holy Spirit of the Pentecost is helping people to be ready for the word of the Gospel to make them understand the Gospel when the Gospel is communicated to them by any means of communication possible. 

As long as Jesus is Lord the Holy Spirit of God dwells in our hearts it takes from Jesus Christ to us. Forevermore. 

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