Is Trump a Christian? Pastor gives good response

[Debp]

 

[Patticats]

@Debp Agree with Greg Laurie. I love Greg Laurie and listen to him often. He is so good at sharing the good news of Jesus. His goal is like mine reaching others for Salvation through Jesus!! Thanks for posting this.

[Marilyn C]

Thanks Deb, for posting that. I do respect Greg Laurie and it is great that he has been able to pray for Trump.

Personally, I see Trump as one who acknowledges God and Jesus, and desires to follow His teachings, however that is not being born again. He maybe close but has yet to know the infilling of God`s Spirit to make Him like Jesus. To try and follow Jesus` teachings is in our own strength. 

Another `minister,` (Jonathan Cahn) goes to extremes to tell Trump amazing things he believes God has done and will do through Trump. That is dangerous as it can lead to pride. 

Important to pray for Trump as he leads a `team` to bring some common sense to the country. I know God will judge man`s systems (Political, economic and religious) however, in the meantime there is a great opportunity for people to know what common sense is and be guided to the Lord.

[Debp]

43 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Thanks Deb, for posting that. I do respect Greg Laurie and it is great that he has been able to pray for Trump.

Personally, I see Trump as one who acknowledges God and Jesus, and desires to follow His teachings, however that is not being born again. He maybe close but has yet to know the infilling of God`s Spirit to make Him like Jesus. To try and follow Jesus` teachings is in our own strength. 

Another `minister,` (Jonathan Cahn) goes to extremes to tell Trump amazing things he believes God has done and will do through Trump. That is dangerous as it can lead to pride. 

Important to pray for Trump as he leads a `team` to bring some common sense to the country. I know God will judge man`s systems (Political, economic and religious) however, in the meantime there is a great opportunity for people to know what common sense is and be guided to the Lord.

 I watch press conferences and interviews with Trump and I see a big change in his demeanor since the assassination attempt.  He is humble.   He also said that experience deepened his faith in the Lord.

Some people might not know as much about the Bible as others, but it's the work being done in a person's heart by God that counts.

[missmuffet]

Is Trump a Christian?

I don't know but God does. God knows Donald Trump's heart. He is in God's hands.

[Neighbor]

Browse the Constitution Annotated

Article VI  Supreme Law

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

• Clause 3 Oaths of Office

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• As Hilary Clinton famously said  in regard to another situation "What at this point difference does it make?"
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• To pose a religious test on an office holder  within the United States runs contrary to  the USA constitution. Plus it is an extremely dangerous standard to promote as it runs risk of demanding one faith over another as a forced compliance. It is no less dangerous than demanding atheism be the default position for  office holders.

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[missmuffet]

3 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Browse the Constitution Annotated

Article VI  Supreme Law

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

• Clause 3 Oaths of Office

• -------------------------
• As Hilary Clinton famously said  in regard to another situation "What at this point difference does it make?"
• -------------------------
• To pose a religious test on an office holder  within the United States runs contrary to  the USA constitution. Plus it is an extremely dangerous standard to promote as it runs risk of demanding one faith over another as a forced compliance. It is no less dangerous than demanding atheism be the default position for  office holders.

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No, it is not a prerequisite for the President of the United States to be a Christian.

[Debp]

30 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Browse the Constitution Annotated

Article VI  Supreme Law

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

• Clause 3 Oaths of Office

• -------------------------
• As Hilary Clinton famously said  in regard to another situation "What at this point difference does it make?"
• -------------------------
• To pose a religious test on an office holder  within the United States runs contrary to  the USA constitution. Plus it is an extremely dangerous standard to promote as it runs risk of demanding one faith over another as a forced compliance. It is no less dangerous than demanding atheism be the default position for  office holders.

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The video is simply stating the pastor's viewpoint in answer to some people's question about Trump.

[BornAgain490]

Is DJT a Christian?  Does he walk after the Spirit or does he walk after the flesh?  Does he mind the things of the Spirit or does he mind the things of the flesh? The answer to these questions is critical as to whether DJT (or anyone else for thst matter) is a Christian. 

In Romans 8, Apostle Paul tells us how Christians will and will not live.  

First Paul tells us that "there is no condemnation to them which are in Christ."  This is a statement that applies only to Christians, to us which are in Christ. 

Paul then qualifies what it means to be in Christ, wherein he states: "who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.", and who mind not the things of the flesh, but mind the things of the Spirit.   

So, Paul is saying that only a Christian will walk after the Spirit and mind the things of the Spirit.  And anyone not Christian will not walk after the Spirit or mind the things of the Spirit, but will walk after the flesh and mind the things of the flesh.

The things of the flesh are not simply the physical things, like food and drink and sex.  The things of the flesh does include those things, but also includes "idolatry, witchcraft,  hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife,  seditions, heresies, envyings, murders...", etc.  Galatians 5:19-21.  And, things of the flesh include the lust for power and for lust wealth and lust for political influence and lust for legacy, etc. 

Accordingly, walking after the Spirit and minding the things of the Spirit means we are not occupied with the things of the flesh, but are occupied with spiritual and Godly things, like "love, joy, peace, longsuffering,  gentleness, goodness, faith, meeknes, temperance," and our chief aim and primary focus in life is to know and to please God. 

So, is DJT a Christian?   

 

[Neighbor]

Well  the nomination  of Representative  Matt Gaetz by The President elect sure has lit a firestorm of protest from at least some Jews for his  antisemitism ( Their viewpoint). Including Gaetz's statement that "the Jews killed Jesus.  The Bible is clear on that."

One has to look at that history regarding Rep. Matt Gaetz for themselves as that is such a hot button comment.

While I have not reached my own conclusion yet, it does seem so far that the President elect is setting the stage  and casting some players to institutionalize replacement theology. Personally I doubt that he realizes it.

Interesting casting anyway!

https://forward.com/fast-forward/674875/trump-ag-matt-gaetz-antisemitic/

and

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trumps-ag-pick-called-adl-racist-invited-holocaust-denier-to-state-of-the-union/

 

There is going to be a lot of pushback  in the US Senate against this one nomination.