the three woes

[douggg]

Revelation 8:13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

So, the last three trumpets of the seven trumpets are tied to the three woes to the inhabiters of the earth.

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The first two woes are revealed what they will be in Revelation 9.

fifth angel sounds his trumpet, first woe - the flesh tormenting locust lasting 5 months.

sixth angel sounds his trumpet, second woe - a third of mankind killed by huge armies of 200,000,000 as they march toward Armageddon.

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The third woe is revealed what it will be in Revelation 12:12-14. Which Revelation 8:13 and Revelation 12:12 are the only two places in the bible where the phrase "woe to the inhabiters of the earth" appears.

seventh angel sounds his trumpet, third woe - Satan's wrath knowing his time is short - a time, times, half time.

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The three woes take place within the time/times/half time that Satan will have left when he and his angels are cast down to earth from the second heaven, in Revelation 12:7-9.

Textually, in Revelation 9, the fifth angel sounds, then the sixth angel sounds, then in Revelation 11:15 the seventh angel sounds, revealing what the third woe will be in Revelation 12:12-14.

On the time line, the third woe begins, then the first woe takes place, then the second woe takes place, then the third woe ends when Jesus returns and Satan imprisoned. (see my chart below)


Third woe begins......the first woe takes place .....the second woe takes place...... the third woe ends.
Third woe begins......................................time/times/half time.................................the third woe ends.
 

 

Edited November 22, 2024 by douggg

[Revelation Man]

2 hours ago, douggg said:

sixth angel sounds his trumpet, second woe - a third of mankind killed by huge armies of 200,000,000 as they march toward Armageddon.

No Brother, the gathering unto Armageddon only happens after the 6th Vial, which emits from the 7th Trump which is the 3rd Woe. Those 200 million are Angelic beings slaying 1/3 of those who have taken the Mark of the Beast, thus an unknowable number, we can not know how many men take the Mark of the Beast, only God knows that. Now, remember Jesus' own words, Satan can not cast out Satan, so its not Satan killing Satan, its called a "Plague" in verses 20-21, and only God delivers plagues. The problem is people assume these beings are bound in the Euphrates River, but they aren't, the are BOUND to a DATE (a Day, Month, Year and an Hour) in the Euphrates river area, to kill 1/3 of those who have taken the Mark of the Beast. 

2 hours ago, douggg said:

The third woe is revealed what it will be in Revelation 12:12-14. Which Revelation 8:13 and Revelation 12:12 are the only two places in the bible where the phrase "woe to the inhabiters of the earth" appears.

seventh angel sounds his trumpet, third woe - Satan's wrath knowing his time is short - a time, times, half time.

Again no, as I have told you before my friend, these are Woes from God, Rev. 12 is Satan's 3.5 years of anger, just because the chapter uses the word woe doesn't mean it is one of the Three Woes, Rev. 11 IS NOT  a real time TIMELINE, we can see the Two-witnesses DIE at the 2nd Woe but thar REAKLY HAPPENS in Rev. 9, see my point, likewise, we see the 3rd Woe is also mentioned as COMING QUICKLY (via the 7th Trump) but that is not where the 3rd Woe happens at. Rev. 16 is the 3rd Woe, all 7 Vials are the 3rd Woe, they come from the 7th Trump. So, Trumps 1-4 are ONE Asteroid Impact, in Rev. 8, then in Rev. 9 we see Trumps 5 & 6 or Woes 1 & 2. Then lastly in Rev. 16 we see the 3rd Woe which emits from the 7th Trump, but it is indeed just all 7 Vials. This means Rev. 8, 9 and 16 makes up all of the COMPLETE Wrath of God, and we know 7 = Divine Completion. This is why Rev. 10 speaks about the 7 Thunders, they are the 7 Trumps. There are not 21 Judgments, only 7.

 

[douggg]

5 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

No Brother, the gathering unto Armageddon only happens after the 6th Vial, which emits from the 7th Trump which is the 3rd Woe. Those 200 million are Angelic beings slaying 1/3 of those who have taken the Mark of the Beast, thus an unknowable number, we can not know how many men take the Mark of the Beast, only God knows that

In Revelation 16:12, the sixth vial is the drying up of the Euphrates, to make way for the kings of the east.

In Revelation 9:14, the four angels bound in the Euphrates are then released to take part in the slaying of a third of mankind, by influencing the kings of the east and their military leadership.

The size of the armies of the kings of the east, China and her allies, will number 200,000,000.      Look at a map of the area between the Euphrates and China.  Situated in between are the nations of India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and some other 'stan countries, Iran, Iraq.

 

 

Edited November 23, 2024 by douggg

[douggg]

5 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Again no, as I have told you before my friend, these are Woes from God, Rev. 12 is Satan's 3.5 years of anger, just because the chapter uses the word woe doesn't mean it is one of the Three Woes

It not just the single word "woe" in Revelation 12:12, but the entire phrase "woe to the inhabiters of the earth".

Revelation 8:13 and Revelation 12:12 are the only two places in the bible where the phrase "woe to the inhabiters of the earth" appears.

 

[Revelation Man]

18 hours ago, douggg said:

n Revelation 16:12, the sixth vial is the drying up of the Euphrates, to make way for the kings of the east.

In Revelation 9:14, the four angels bound in the Euphrates are then released to take part in the slaying of a third of mankind, by influencing the kings of the east and their military leadership.

The size of the armies of the kings of the east, China and her allies, will number 200,000,000.      Look at a map of the area between the Euphrates and China.  Situated in between are the nations of India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and some other 'stan countries, Iran, Iraq.

 

 

The Woes are from different Trumps, Satan can not kill Satan. Its Angels who kill 1/3 of those with the Mark of the Beast, thus its a plague of God. The Euphrates is NOT DRIED UP, its God using a euphemism so He doesn't give his pearls to THW WORLD but only unto us, which is why Jesus spoke in parables. God DRIES UP his Plagues long enough where the THREE LIARS can TRICK those HIDING IN CAVES to go to Israel and try to kill the remaining Jews. Satan sees that is his last hope. NOTICE, all manner of plagues in the 5-first 5 vials, then NOTHING but a "River drying up" at Vial #6 which is just a euphemism for God drying up His plagues long enough for Satan's side to entice those in hiding to come out and go fight. That way, when Jesus shows up its a GRAND SPECTACLE, he kills them all by the Presence of his Coming. The 200 Million is Angels. and it might not be 200 million, the number 10 = Completion, so 10,000 x 10,000 x 2 or 200 million. It probably just means the COMPLETE HEAVENS. 

18 hours ago, douggg said:

It not just the single word "woe" in Revelation 12:12, but the entire phrase "woe to the inhabiters of the earth".

Revelation 8:13 and Revelation 12:12 are the only two places in the bible where the phrase "woe to the inhabiters of the earth" appears.

Satan is NOT delivering the Woes of God. Why is Satan able to trick them? After the Plagues DRY UP, God only allows Satan/Apollyon to kill the Two-witnesses for one reason, when the Plagues dry up, they think its because the Two-witnesses die, and have quit prying down plagues, hence the rush to Israel to kill EVERY Jew where this can never, ever happen again.

[douggg]

35 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

Satan is NOT delivering the Woes of God.

The three woes are events that will take place - resulting in "woe to the inhabiters of the earth".

Each of the three woes begin when the last three angels (of the seven angels given trumpets in Revelation 8:2) sound their trumpets.

Revelation 12:12 is what the third "woe to the inhabiters of the earth" will be.   

Who is it in this verse that will have great wrath, because he knows he has but a short time left ?

Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

 

 

Edited November 24, 2024 by douggg

[douggg]

37 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

The Woes are from different Trumps, Satan can not kill Satan. Its Angels who kill 1/3 of those with the Mark of the Beast, thus its a plague of God. The Euphrates is NOT DRIED UP, its God using a euphemism so He doesn't give his pearls to THW WORLD but only unto us, which is why Jesus spoke in parables. God DRIES UP his Plagues long enough where the THREE LIARS can TRICK those HIDING IN CAVES to go to Israel and try to kill the remaining Jews. Satan sees that is his last hope. NOTICE, all manner of plagues in the 5-first 5 vials, then NOTHING but a "River drying up" at Vial #6 which is just a euphemism for God drying up His plagues long enough for Satan's side to entice those in hiding to come out and go fight. That way, when Jesus shows up its a GRAND SPECTACLE, he kills them all by the Presence of his Coming. The 200 Million is Angels. and it might not be 200 million, the number 10 = Completion, so 10,000 x 10,000 x 2 or 200 million. It probably just means the COMPLETE HEAVENS. 

I am sorry but your post is incomprehensible.

[missmuffet]

On 11/22/2024 at 12:41 PM, douggg said:

Revelation 8:13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

So, the last three trumpets of the seven trumpets are tied to the three woes to the inhabiters of the earth.

-------------------------------------------------------

The first two woes are revealed what they will be in Revelation 9.

fifth angel sounds his trumpet, first woe - the flesh tormenting locust lasting 5 months.

sixth angel sounds his trumpet, second woe - a third of mankind killed by huge armies of 200,000,000 as they march toward Armageddon.

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The third woe is revealed what it will be in Revelation 12:12-14. Which Revelation 8:13 and Revelation 12:12 are the only two places in the bible where the phrase "woe to the inhabiters of the earth" appears.

seventh angel sounds his trumpet, third woe - Satan's wrath knowing his time is short - a time, times, half time.

------------------------------------------------------

The three woes take place within the time/times/half time that Satan will have left when he and his angels are cast down to earth from the second heaven, in Revelation 12:7-9.

Textually, in Revelation 9, the fifth angel sounds, then the sixth angel sounds, then in Revelation 11:15 the seventh angel sounds, revealing what the third woe will be in Revelation 12:12-14.

On the time line, the third woe begins, then the first woe takes place, then the second woe takes place, then the third woe ends when Jesus returns and Satan imprisoned. (see my chart below)


Third woe begins......the first woe takes place .....the second woe takes place...... the third woe ends.
Third woe begins......................................time/times/half time.................................the third woe ends.
 

 

You need a PHD in theology to understand this

[Revelation Man]

On 11/23/2024 at 6:44 PM, douggg said:

The three woes are events that will take place - resulting in "woe to the inhabiters of the earth".

Each of the three woes begin when the last three angels (of the seven angels given trumpets in Revelation 8:2) sound their trumpets.

Revelation 12:12 is what the third "woe to the inhabiters of the earth" will be.   

Who is it in this verse that will have great wrath, because he knows he has but a short time left ?

Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

 

 

Again, as I have been telling you for years, each time a word is used doesn't make it something that it can not be. Gods Woes are from God not Satan. We know what the three Woes are, the 5th, 6th, (Rev. 9) and 7th Trumps, the 7th Trump is all 7 vials thus the 7 vials are the 3rd woe. 

On 11/23/2024 at 6:48 PM, douggg said:

I am sorry but your post is incomprehensible.

I am correct, and you are not. I understand you can not comprehend the word else the holy spirit enlightens one, so maybe you should just get past this point, not everyone who tries to understand Eschatology is called unto end time understandings.  

Edited December 3, 2024 by Revelation Man

[luigi]

On 11/22/2024 at 3:41 PM, douggg said:

Revelation 8:13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

 

A couple of points about the final three woes. First is that they come after the first four woes, where 1/3 of earth's environmental resources have been destroyed (Revelation 8). Therefore, once we see 1/3 of earth's environment destroyed, (Second point) we should sometime thereafter expect the three considerably more dire woes (according to the angel with its loud proclamation) to commence.

We should therefore keep watching for these signs, as the Lord tells us to do in the Olivet discourse  (Mark 13:37; Luke 21:36), so that these events do not come upon us unawares, as they shall come upon the whole world (Luke 21:34-35).

Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Luke 21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

Edited November 24, 2024 by luigi