i knew this was going to happen

[Sower]

On 2/4/2025 at 6:47 PM, other one said:

The Dems at the time of my great-grandfather were asking who would pick the cotton. I guess they haven't changed much in 150 or so years

Actually, there is a concern that many farm hand will be out of work in near future.

Qt;
"Automation in farms has significantly reduced the number of labor hands needed to work, as machines and automated systems have taken over many manual tasks previously performed by human workers, leading to increased efficiency and reduced reliance on manual labor on farms; this trend has been particularly notable in recent years due to growing labor shortages in agriculture."

 

 

And AI tech combined with robotics will reduce common labor jobs exponentially.

[Anne2]

40 minutes ago, Luther said:

Anne, the Palestinian people are Muslims, Christians and Jews that are indigenous people to the land. There are families there that can trace their lineage back to Biblical times. They are the  Semitic people that speak the ancient language of that area. 

Arabs are sons of Abraham yes. Through Ishmael. He had others through Keturah. Semitic comes from Shem. 

[In the Clouds]

1 hour ago, Sower said:

Actually, there is a concern that many farm hand will be out of work in near future.

Qt;
"Automation in farms has significantly reduced the number of labor hands needed to work, as machines and automated systems have taken over many manual tasks previously performed by human workers, leading to increased efficiency and reduced reliance on manual labor on farms; this trend has been particularly notable in recent years due to growing labor shortages in agriculture."

 

 

And AI tech combined with robotics will reduce common labor jobs exponentially.

Mechanization enables more food for consumption, too.  My BIL is a big farmer who built his farm by hard work and long hours.  He taught my nephew his work ethic and taught him how to work on tractors and about crops.  And, when my nephew chose his path, he did not go to college.  My BIL gave him farm equipment.  Both have made better than a good living and continue to work very hard.  After working on the family farm for the season, my nephew sub-contracted for other farmers with his own equipment.

Moral of the story is work hard, work smart, and forge your own way.  Don't limit yourself to the cookie cutter mentality.

[just_abc]

On 2/6/2025 at 5:19 AM, Ray12614 said:

I am confident that 'deals' will be done under the new Trump administration as there has been over the last 50 years or so under various presidents.

 

hi..  I have a few questions..

1)  If I am not mistaken.. a free trade agreement (replacing NAFTA)  was negotiated and signed between the Usa.. Canada..and Mexico..  only a few years ago.. during the first presidency of President Trump..

So um is the Usa wanting to change the free trade agreement yet again?  And if so.. why?

2)  If this whole issue was simply about revisiting and renegotiating tariffs etc....  then why the repeated insults directed towards Canada / Canadians?  Why the possible threats against Canada's sovereignity or the wanting Canada to become a state of the Usa?   I don't get it?

 

Please understand that I am neither american nor canadian..  so I don't know much about the relationship between both countries..

But I think of situations such as what happened during or in the immediate aftermath of sept 11..  when canada opened its airspace etc to planes that were supposed to land in the Usa..

https://www.tyndall.af.mil/News/Features/Display/Article/669731/canada-unsung-heroes-of-911/

To me as an outsider..  Canada seemed to be such a close friend of the Usa..?

So I don't understand what has happened?  

Sorry..  I hope it is ok to ask.  No offence intended to anyone.  

Thanks.

 

[In the Clouds]

Actually NAFTA was signed in 1992, long before Trump.

[Luther]

22 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

Arabs are sons of Abraham yes. Through Ishmael. He had others through Keturah. Semitic comes from Shem. 

Yes. So several times I mentioned the fact that the people in the nation of Israel today are not semites. They do not come from the Middle East but rather from Eastern Europe. They are of Turkish - Khazarian descent, who around the 8th century converted to Judaism. The Khazarian empire was located where the Ukraine is today, hence their attachment to it as we speak.

 

 

 

[Anne2]

10 minutes ago, Luther said:

Yes. So several times I mentioned the fact that the people in the nation of Israel today are not semites. They do not come from the Middle East but rather from Eastern Europe. They are of Turkish - Khazarian descent, who around the 8th century converted to Judaism. The Khazarian empire was located where the Ukraine is today, hence their attachment to it as we speak.

 

 

 

They are Jews none the less. They have suffered as Jews none the less. And certainly the tribe of Levi can be traced with DNA as it is strictly patrilinear.  The Palestinians have never "owned the land. The land has always been won in warfare. Both Jews and Palestinians were given land by those who owned it. The arabi9c people did not want them there and started a war. Again the landscape once again changed due to Jews winning the war. Palestinians have no superior right to land genealogically, than Jew's. There genealogical origins are from those in the lands around the area.

Edited February 8 by Anne2

[just_abc]

13 minutes ago, In the Clouds said:

Actually NAFTA was signed in 1992, long before Trump.

NAFTA was signed a long time ago yes..  But President Trump replaced NAFTA with a new /upgraded version.. during his first term as president..  The new free trade agreement is known by slightly different names /acronyms in Usa.. Canada.. and Mexico..

In the Usa it is called the Usa-Mexico-Canada-Agreement (USMCA)

https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements/united-states-mexico-canada-agreement#:~:text=The United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) entered,farmers%2C ranchers%2C and businesses.

Thanks.

[Luther]

1 minute ago, Anne2 said:

They are Jews none the less. They have suffered as Jews none the less. And certainly the teibe of Levi can be traced with DNA as it is strictly patrilinear.  The Palestinians have never "owned the land. The land has always been won in warfare. Both Jews and Palestinians were given land by those who owned it. The arabi9c people did not want them there and started a war. Again the landscape once again changed due to Jews winning the war. Palestinians have no superior right to land genealogically, than Jew's.

Well I can't reply to the history of the Palestinian people without learning more about it. My main interest however is learning about who these people really are that are living in Israel today. 

When you say " They are Jews none the less", what exactly does that mean in the Biblical sense? The religion of Judaism does not have any Biblical relationship with the religion of the Old Testament Israelites.

Judaism is the culmination of ancient Babylonian religious culture practiced in oral form from the time of Moses  (hence all the references to the children of Israel going after strange gods and offering their children as sacrifices and so on) and completed in written form  (the talmud) around 500 AD.

I think the confusion is how it's worded. In other words if you follow this religion of Judaism you are called a "jew". That doesn't mean that you have an ancestry with the Old Testament Israelites of the southern kingdom of Judah ( who were called "Jehudites" or "jews" for short. . 

Jesus warned us over and over about the " traditions of men" that came from the Pharisees, who later became the Rabbis of Judaism:

Matthew 15:7-9

Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,

[8]This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

[9]But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

 

Their teachings are antithetical to the Bible. Why would we consider them to be in the lineage of ancient Israel? Why do Christians assume that God owes these people something?  The Bible definitively declares  that any promises that were made to Old Testament Israel were fulfilled a very long time ago. But His promises were conditional:

Romans 9:31-32

But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.

[32]Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; 

Romans 11:7-10

What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

[8](According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

[9]And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:

[10]Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.

This is why our focus in these last days should be on Jesus Christ and His second coming , in which the nation of Israel has no bearing. 

 

[Neighbor]

14 hours ago, Anne2 said:

Me personally, I would like to see the Arabs take them in. They are for the most part Arab people. I think they were left there (used) to pose a threat to Israel in the first place.

Using that reasoning, might  the various American Indians ( native Americans) have solid reason to demand the exodus of all non native Americans from the White European colonists descendants?

There are still a whole series of articles and tv presentations on the topic "whose land is it?" that Zola Levitt presented that does give solid basis for Jewish ownership of all that land grant from God. 

But to think those that were called to Gaza by Arabs will  be welcomed in Arab lands might be a stretch that  denies historical discord.Another resource ( with a point of view) https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/who-are-the-palestinians/

Attempts at ethnic cleansing always causes unChristian like  turmoil. It is a challenge to every Christian to welcome all in the name of Jesus , to share sacrificially that which one has, even if just a cup of cool water. Doing so all to the glory of God in the name of Jesus, and to be spreading the gospel of Jesus as all Christians share the hope certain that is there through that gospel.

Palestinians can be Christians too! They may be foreknown and predestined to that end just as USA Americans of European descent might be. It is all  of the doing by  the call of the Holy Spirit to all regardless of ancestry.

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem