Short post of the Unpardonable sin / the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit

[Neighbor]

On 12/9/2024 at 9:15 AM, Vine Abider said:

How would that look in practice?  People use the Lord's name (Jesus Christ) in vain all the time.  And people slander God the Father a lot too, saying things against Him ("A loving God certainly wouldn't do that!").  But I don't think I've ever heard someone say anything in vain or slanderous specifically about the Holy Spirit.

Hi and Merry Christmas to you and yours,

To my understanding, and I guess also personal experience too, it is not the uttering of a vain profanity, nor even a denial of our Lord nor God the Father, it is the denial of the Holy Spirit's explicit call to to an individual to turn about to repentance from Sin against God that is unforgivable.

One cannot see nor understand the Godhead without the enlightening by God the Holy Spirit. Rejecting that specific call, not the general call which is seen in all that is nature, but the specific call (From the Holy Spirit)  to repentance that leads to be indwelled with the enabling Spirit. That rejection is unforgivable. It negates any opportunity to  know Jesus and the Father. For right now I'll leave it at that, -without Bible references as I am a bit filled up with tasks that need pondering upon and tending.

I will say that in my own case after decades of encouragement from individuals I was challenged through an angel by the Holy Spirit to decide NOW or never. I decided yes, now! Couldn't hardly do  anything else this side of sanity when faced with that specific call. To reject that would have been unpardonable for my grieving the Holy Spirit.

[Revelation Man]

On 12/9/2024 at 6:58 AM, EddieM said:

The Unpardonable Sin

Some people believe they have committed the unpardonable sin. They are convinced they are guilty of this sin and it weighs heavily on them (as it can’t be forgiven). There is no more grace; their situation is hopeless — or so they think. Other people make a list of different types of sins and say that if you commit this or that sin, then you are guilty of the unpardonable sin. Some say that ‘as long as you are still worried about what you did, then it proves that you have not committed the unpardonable sin.’

The unpardonable sin cannot be committed today. The only context in which the unpardonable sin is described is in the Synoptic Gospels where ‘this generation’ in Israel blasphemed the Holy Spirit by rejecting the works that Jesus Christ performed (Matthew 12:22-45; Mark 3:22-30; Luke 11:14-26). Jesus was thus not accepted as the Messiah and so the establishment and restoration of the Messianic kingdom on earth was postponed. What happened?

This is very easy if, one contemplates the context. 

So, you can DO THIS to the Father, the Son and its not an unpardonable sin, but WHY? 

The why tells us the what.

So, in the context of the chapter the Pharisees/Scribes/Jewish leaders told Jesus he did all these miracles in Beelzebub's name or in Satan's name. Well, how did Jesus actually preform those miracles? By the power of the Holy Spirit. So, if you state a person performing the works of the holy spirit is doing so in Satan's name, or that the work he is doing is not of God but of Satan, you have just trashed and lied on the holy spirit.

Since Jesus' work was over with the Sacrifice and God the Father resides in heaven, one lying on them does not per se hinder the Gospel being spread. But lying against the holy spirit, who still has work left on earth, via saving souls, can not ne lied on, else you risk committing the Unpardonable sin. So, if you see a preacher healing etc. etc. and if you do not know 100 % that is not of the holy spirit, then never say it is of Satan. You can say I do not think he's of God, but never say that work is being done by Satan, therein lies the rub. The Pharisees claimed Jesus preformed hos miracles by the power of Satan. 

I truly do not know why people can not grasp this fully.

So, unless you claim someone's work in the holy spirit is being done by Satan, don't sweat it. Even if you randomly say you do not think they are of God, that is not blasphemy, you can not blaspheme men. But if you say an HOLY WORK was done by Satan, that is Blaspheme. 

[BornAgain490]

The unpardonable sin is rejecting God's offer of grace via and through the Holy Spirit. 

God's call to repent and believe is His universal offer of His grace. Some hear the word of God and come to saving faith, but many others hear the same word of God and reject it.  

Romans 1 clearly illustrates that, at some point, God withdraws His offer of grace and rejects those that reject Him, so they are no longer able to repent and believe because all they care about is their hedonism. 

[Marathoner]

3 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

This is very easy if, one contemplates the context. 

So, you can DO THIS to the Father, the Son and its not an unpardonable sin, but WHY? 

The why tells us the what.

So, in the context of the chapter the Pharisees/Scribes/Jewish leaders told Jesus he did all these miracles in Beelzebub's name or in Satan's name. Well, how did Jesus actually preform those miracles? By the power of the Holy Spirit. So, if you state a person performing the works of the holy spirit is doing so in Satan's name, or that the work he is doing is not of God but of Satan, you have just trashed and lied on the holy spirit.

Since Jesus' work was over with the Sacrifice and God the Father resides in heaven, one lying on them does not per se hinder the Gospel being spread. But lying against the holy spirit, who still has work left on earth, via saving souls, can not ne lied on, else you risk committing the Unpardonable sin. So, if you see a preacher healing etc. etc. and if you do not know 100 % that is not of the holy spirit, then never say it is of Satan. You can say I do not think he's of God, but never say that work is being done by Satan, therein lies the rub. The Pharisees claimed Jesus preformed hos miracles by the power of Satan. 

I truly do not know why people can not grasp this fully.

So, unless you claim someone's work in the holy spirit is being done by Satan, don't sweat it. Even if you randomly say you do not think they are of God, that is not blasphemy, you can not blaspheme men. But if you say an HOLY WORK was done by Satan, that is Blaspheme. 

That's the scriptually-supported answer, my friend. Well said. 

[steve morrow]

....HEAP  TO  THEMSELVES  TEACHERS  HAVING  ITCHING  EARS    from 2 TIM 4:3 

 

LUKE 12:10  and whosoever shall speak a word against  THE  SON  OF  MAN  it shall be forgiven him ---but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Spirit it shall not be forgiven

 

JOHN 6:63  it is the spirit that quickeneth the flesh profiteth --NOTHING-- the words that I speak unto you they are spirit and they are life 

ROMANS 8:2  for the law of the spirit of life in  --CHRIST  JESUS-- hath made me free from the law of sin and death

 

                         ******* blasphemeth against the Holy Spirit*******

                             ******* ??NOT  BE  FORGIVEN?? *******

                                                     

2 THESSALONIANS 2:8  and then shall that wicked be revealed whom  THE  LORD  shall consume with ---THE  SPIRIT  OF  HIS  MOUTH---  and shall  --DESTROY--  with the brightness of  HIS  coming---

 

ACTS 3:22  for Moses truly said unto the fathers a prophet shall  THE  LORD  YOUR  GOD  raise up unto you of your brethren like unto me  HIM  shall you hear in all things whatsoever  HE  shall say unto you 

--3:23--  and it shall come to pass that every soul which will not hear that prophet  ---SHALL  BE  DESTROYED  FROM  AMONG  THE  PEOPLE---  

 

PROVERBS 21:16  the man that wandereth out of the way of understanding ---shall remain in the congregation of the dead---

PSALM 119:130  the entrance of thy words giveth light it giveth understanding unto the simple

 

LUKE 20:38  for  HE  is not a  GOD  of the dead but of the living  ---for all live unto him---

 

PSALM 60:11  GIVE  US  HELP  FROM  TROUBLE  FOR  VAIN  IS  THE  HELP  OF  MAN

 

PSALM 10:3  for the wicked boasteth of his hearts desire and blesseth the covetous whom  THE  LORD  abhorreth 

PSALM 119:36  incline my heart unto thy testimonies and not to covetousness 

EZEKIEL 33:31  and they come unto thee as the people cometh and they sit before thee as  MY  people and they hear thy words but they will not do them for with their mouth they show much love but their heart goeth after their covetousness

EPHESIANS 5:5  for this you know that no whoremonger nor unclean person --nor covetous person  --  who is an idolater-- hath any inheritance in the kingdom of  CHRIST  AND  OF  GOD

COLOSSIANS 3:5  mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth fornication uncleanness inordinate affection evil concupiscence and ---and covetousness which is idolatry---  

 

REVELATION 19:10  and I fell at his feet to worship him and he said unto me see thou do it not I am thy fellow servant and of thy brethren that have the testimony of  JESUS  worship  GOD  for the testimony of  JESUS  is the spirit of prophecy

 

REVELATION 22:13  I  AM  ALPHA  AND  OMEGA  the beginning and the end the first and the last 

--22:14--  blessed are they that do  HIS  commandments that they may have right to the tree of life and may enter in through the gates into the city 

--22:15--  for without are dogs and sorcerers and whoremongers and murderers --AND  IDOLATERS-- and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie 

 

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST 

[luigi]

Just as in the case with the seven heads of the beast having the name of blasphemy; blasphemy is holding a position contrary to God. The worshippers (adherents) of the beast will therefore hold positions contrary to God, and thus be blasphemous of Gods Spirit.

 

[steve morrow]

BLASPHEMETH  AGAINST  THE   --SPIRIT--  IT  SHALL  NOT  BE  FORGIVEN   

 

PROVERBS 1:23  turn you at  MY  reproof behold I will pour out  MY  spirit unto you I will make known  MY  words unto you

 

                             ******* 2 THESSALONIANS 2:10 *******

                         and with all deceiveableness of unrighteousness

                                  ***IN  THEM  THAT  PERISH***

                       because they received not the love of the

                               truth that they might be saved

                         *******************************

 

JOHN 3:34  for  HE  whom  --GOD  HATH  SENT--  speaketh the words of  GOD  for  GOD  giveth 

not  the  spirit by measure unto   HIM

--3:35--  THE  FATHER  LOVETH  THE  SON  AND  HATH  GIVEN  ALL  THINGS  INTO  HIS  HAND

 

 

2 CORINTHIANS 13:8  for we can do nothing against the truth  --BUT  FOR  THE  TRUTH--

EPHESIANS 5:9  for the fruit of the spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth 

1 JOHN 4:6  we are of  GOD  he that knoweth  GOD  heareth us he that is not of  GOD  heareth not us hereby know we the spirit of truth and the spirit of error-- 

 

LUKE 11:13  if you then being evil know how to give good gifts unto your children how much more shall your heavenly  FATHER  give the Holy Spirit to them that ask  HIM

ACTS 5:32  and we are  HIS  witnesses of these things and so is also the Holy Spirit whom  GOD  hath given to them that obey  HIM

 

ZECHARIAH 12:10  and I will pour upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem --the spirit of grace-- and of supplications and they shall look upon  ME  whom they have pierced and they shall mourn for  HIM  as one mourneth for his only son and shall be in bitterness for  HIM as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn

TITUS 2:11  for the grace of  GOD  that bringeth salvation hath appeared unto all men 

--2:12--  teaching us that denying ungodliness and worldly lusts we should live soberly righteously and godly in this present world

 

HEBREWS 10:29  of how much sorer punishment suppose ye shall he be thought worthy who hath trodden under foot  THE  SON  OF  GOD  and hath counted the blood of the covenant wherewith he was sanctified an unholy thing and hath done despite unto --the spirit of grace-- 

 

1 CORINTHIANS 5:8  THEREFORE  let us keep the feast not with old leaven neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness  --but with the unleavened bread of  --  SINCERITY  AND  TRUTH-- 

 

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST