the God of abraham, isaac and jacob?

[Ghostdog]

something was brought to my attention: why does God address himself as the God of abraham isaac and jacob if jacob's name was changed to isreal?

[Jedi4Yahweh]

Not sure.  It seems God still referred to Jacob as Jacob long after he gave him the name Israel in both the old and new testament references.   It also seems that was the case with (Simon) Peter.  Where sometimes Jesus called him Simon others times Peter. 

[D. Adrien]

I believe it's based on faith. Paul talks about Believers being spiritual Israel based on faith.

Abraham believed and it was reckoned to him as righteousness. The common denominator is faith.

[Ghostdog]

i was thinking about it and it may just be the ppl who translated the text they didnt change the name

Edited December 21, 2024 by Ghostdog

[D. Adrien]

Israel means, one who strives with God. Jacob was named after wrestling with God all night. Apparently, the Eternal is not impressed with yes men. :)

Edited December 21, 2024 by D. Adrien
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[nebula]

On 12/20/2024 at 7:13 AM, Ghostdog said:

something was brought to my attention: why does God address himself as the God of abraham isaac and jacob if jacob's name was changed to isreal?

What I see in Genesis is that Jacob continued to go by the name Jacob. But later in Genesis, the author sometimes called him Jacob and sometimes Israel.

Interesting question, indeed.

Abraham = father of many
Isaac = laughter
Jacob = grasps the heel

Israel = one who strives with God

Not sure if there is a clue in the name meanings with this.

[Your closest friendnt]

On 12/20/2024 at 7:13 AM, Ghostdog said:

something was brought to my attention: why does God address himself as the God of abraham isaac and jacob if jacob's name was changed to isreal?

I have come to understand that God was indeed the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and the God of the twelve Patriarhs. And their children and their children's children. In the Old Covenant and the people adopted by them in the Covenant of Sinai. 

Let's stay in the context of Exodus. God  is also telling Moses who was a well educated Man that He is also his God. And we know the history of Moses till that time. And he was also told him the past is not in the way as the past of the rest of the Sons of Jacob is not in the way that no one was judged. That he didn't not counted their sins against them because they were in the righteousness of Abraham through the Circumcision. That's why Abraham did not loose any one of his children from Isaac and from Jacob. 

Also God was telling that he was not the God of Ismael and the other children of Abraham and also He was not the God of Esau. And that He was the God of all the Sons of Jacob because in Jacob God started something New. And this is why he changed his name because beginning with him all his children and all children's of his children are included in the blessings promised to Abraham. 

And every time God started something New he changed the name of the Patriarch to comemorate the occasion. He called Abram Abraham and He called Jacob Israel.  

Jesus Christ because in him the way to Heaven open to all people of the earth when they believe in him is remind us of Israel. Jacob's new name. Or is called the Israel of the spiritual people of God identified by the Spirit of God having forgiveness of sins by his Attonic blood. Thank for the question. 

Edited December 22, 2024 by Your closest friendnt

[BornAgain490]

On 12/20/2024 at 7:13 AM, Ghostdog said:

something was brought to my attention: why does God address himself as the God of abraham isaac and jacob if jacob's name was changed to isreal?

God chose Abraham to bring forth the seed of the woman that God promised in Genesis 3:15.  That Seed is Jesus Christ. (Galatians 3:16).