First Hours After America's Downfall

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On 1/25/2025 at 12:33 PM, Luther said:

Revelation 18:3

For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

Your theory cannot apply to Jerusalem 70 AD on this verse alone. 

Rev 18:24, Matt 23:35-36, Lk 11:51-51.

These verses can only apply to Jerusalem and fulfill the prophecies of Jesus.

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Rev 18:2, "Babylon the great is fallen", and then describes the desolation, of Jerusalem as seen in the 85-96 AD ish writing.

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Rev 18:3, This could be true of many cities. In the context of 85-96 AD it was not Rome because v.2 shows that the city woman had already fallen at the time of writing.

 

[abcdef]

On 1/25/2025 at 12:39 PM, BlindSeeker said:

No disrespect, but I find your position and response unconvincing.

Okay, convince me as to what the truth is about the Rev 17-18 woman.

The beast is Rome. The woman is Jerusalem in 96 AD..

What do you think?

[BlindSeeker]

On 1/30/2025 at 3:01 PM, abcdef said:

Okay, convince me as to what the truth is about the Rev 17-18 woman.

The beast is Rome. The woman is Jerusalem in 96 AD..

What do you think?

I disagree.

>>>Here, I've put is all down<<<

Text and Audio - Scripture and history.

Chapter 1 – Proving all things…

Chapter 2 – Giving Way to the Rise of The Son of Perdition

Chapter 3 – Nimrod’s Failure

Chapter 4 – Biblical End Times Players of Revelation

Chapter 5 – The Eighth Beast – Part I

Chapter 6 – Grace

Chapter 7 – The Eighth Beast – Part II

Chapter 8 – …that sits upon many waters

Chapter 9 – A Stronghold of Devils

Chapter 10 – The Seduction of the Nations

Chapter 11– Come out of her My people…

Chapter 12– Before the Conclusion of the Seventy Weeks

Chapter 13 – Daniel’s Seventieth Week

Chapter 14– The Sum of the Prophecy

Chapter 15 – The Destruction of the Temple and the Death of the Ceremonial Law

Chapter 16– Division of the Seventieth           

Chapter 17– He Shall Confirm the Covenant with Many

Chapter 18– Is America Missing in Prophecy?

Chapter 19 – I doubt many will believe it, though a man declares it unto you.

Chapter 20 – The Mystery of Godliness

Chapter 21 -Trips to the Tomb with Chart of Passion Week – Days and Events

 

Edited February 2 by BlindSeeker

[Luther]

On 1/30/2025 at 2:58 PM, abcdef said:

Rev 18:24, Matt 23:35-36, Lk 11:51-51.

These verses can only apply to Jerusalem and fulfill the prophecies of Jesus.

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Rev 18:2, "Babylon the great is fallen", and then describes the desolation, of Jerusalem as seen in the 85-96 AD ish writing.

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Rev 18:3, This could be true of many cities. In the context of 85-96 AD it was not Rome because v.2 shows that the city woman had already fallen at the time of writing.

 

"For all nations " ( v.3)

Revelation 18:23

And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

" for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived."

Please tell me how you would spin this to make it fit with the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD?

In other words I'm over in Asia in 70 AD. What does Jerusalem mean to me? 

[Luther]

On 1/30/2025 at 2:49 PM, Keras said:

But there is: Psalms 2:7-9, Psalms 110:2-6, Isaiah 2:2-4, Zechariah 14:16-21, +

We are not talking about the Eternal Kingdom, but the Kingdom that Jesus will have when He Returns, His reward for the sacrifice He made at His first Advent.  Proved by how Jesus will hand the Kingdom back to God; AFTER He has reigned for a thousand years. 1 C0r 15:24-28, Revelation 20:4b

People who think its all over when Jesus returns, are wrong and deny Jesus His reward. 

Keras, Christ's reward is salvation to His people, complete at that day, soul and body. The only thing that will be " all over" is this foolishness of a continuation of this sin cursed earth, a teaching that came from  a  satanic religion  (which believes that this world is their forever dominion) and to therefore subvert the Christian Church in order to help them accomplish their world government/ Satan temple worship. God has a name for it in His Word: STRONG DELUSION.

My hope is that God may allow others of like mind regarding this deception to get hold of the Christians that have put their hope in a nation of people rather than JESUS CHRIST. 

Isaiah 62:11-12

Behold, the LORD hath proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy salvation cometh; behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.

[12]And they shall call them, The holy people, The redeemed of the LORD: and thou shalt be called, Sought out, A city not forsaken.

A city not forsaken.....sounds like new Jerusalem, the city Abraham was looking for:

Hebrews 11:10

For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

The redeemed of the Lord:

Isaiah 51:5-6,11

My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.

( Notice the reward of salvation)

[6]Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished.

( Salvation forever, good bye old earth)

[11]Therefore the redeemed of the LORD shall return, and come with singing unto Zion; and everlasting joy shall be upon their head: they shall obtain gladness and joy; and sorrow and mourning shall flee away.

( EVERLASTING JOY.)

You said: " Proved by how Jesus will hand the Kingdom back to God;"

This is kinda silly. Jesus is going to give the kingdom back to Himself? 

 

[WilliamL]

On 1/30/2025 at 1:12 PM, BlindSeeker said:

Here, I've put is all down.

Unfortunately, your link doesn't work.

[BlindSeeker]

20 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

Unfortunately, your link doesn't work.

It worked for me. I just enlarge it with >>><<<
The picture below should work as well (again, works for me)

Edited February 2 by BlindSeeker

[WilliamL]

1 minute ago, BlindSeeker said:

It worked for me. I just enlarge it with >>><<<

And I still get:

Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.

We can’t connect to the server at gates-of-the-city.com.

[Keras]

On 2/1/2025 at 2:34 PM, Luther said:

This is kinda silly. Jesus is going to give the kingdom back to Himself? 

There is ONE high God, the Father and Jesus acknowledged that many times. 

It is your 'kinda silly' beliefs which makes 1 Cor 15:24-25 into a confusion. 

[Michael37]

26 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

And I still get:

Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.

We can’t connect to the server at gates-of-the-city.com.

And there is no eighth beast mentioned in Scripture.